starlee rhoades is president of the goldwater institute.oth say we can return power to the states. what do you mean? start with obamacare. >> state should establish health insurance exchanges. twenty-five states said go right ahead, the policy on your own. you will have to implement it on your own watch. it protects and stops massive subsidies from being paid out from insurance companies and it protects people from being told on by the irs. john: the exchange is a place where you go on the web and it helps you buy an insurance policy. he insurance does that at no cost to the taxpayer. i don't know why it has to be such a big deal or cost so much. >> that is what the federal government will do, and extinction each day. but the thing that is great about that policy change is having the federal government do it versus the state is that taxpayers are actually going to be protected from the very worst parts of the federal health care law. so we think that it is a great ideal. john: they can't find you if you don't join up. >> that's right, when

starlee rhoades is president of the goldwater institute.oth say we can return power to the states. what do you mean? start with obamacare. >> state should establish health insurance exchanges. twenty-five states said go right ahead, the policy on your own. you will have to implement it on your own watch. it protects and stops massive subsidies from being paid out from insurance companies and it protects people from being told on by the irs. john: the exchange is a place where you go on the web and it helps you buy an insurance policy. he insurance does that at no cost to the taxpayer. i don't know why it has to be such a big deal or cost so much. >> that is what the federal government will do, and extinction each day. but the thing that is great about that policy change is having the federal government do it versus the state is that taxpayers are actually going to be protected from the very worst parts of the federal health care law. so we think that it is a great ideal. john: they can't find you if you don't join up. >> that's right, when