the law is sacred. >> meanwhile, ken starr had been digging into the clintons for more than two years>> are you going to be working for congress or the courts or the public? >> his investigation was winding down. >> i'm not going to be making any statements. >> then out of the blue, some explosive tape recordings came his way. >> i never expected to feel this way about him. >> conversations with monica lewinsky. >> we fooled around. >> that were secretly recorded by her co-worker, linda tripp. >> if you get to orgasm, that's having sex. >> no, it's not. >> yes, it is. >> no, it's not. >> starr expands his investigation even further to look ininto lewinsky. >> my reaction is that's nut. i couldn't believe that starr was going down this road. >> do you understand, sir, that your answers to my questions today are testimony that is being given under oath? >> yes. >> starr learned that the president was testifying about lewinsky in another matter. >> it's just humiliating what he did to me. >> a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by paula jones. >> your testimony is subject to the penalty o

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ken starr spent almost five looking at clinton. he came before the committee. impeachment inquiry vote. en starr put forth to the senate judiciary committee the 11 allegations against president clinton. we passed four articles of mpeachment based on the starr report that was transparent, cross-examination in public. it was a public hearing. and two of those articles passed house. what mueller did was investigate years, ident for two spent $25 million, and did not action.d any that's the difference. reporter: when it comes to it seems t messaging, like the white house's team -- enator graham: have you noticed? reporter: at this point, are you confident you guys are on the same page? s it the hill now leading this messaging strategy? senator graham: so, i talked to staff mulvaney. i think they're working on etting omessaging -- getting a messaging team together. you know, i was involved in mpeachment of president clinton. i know this sounds weird. he did.ton, look what what he did is he had a team had legal ganized, minds that could understand what was being said

we had the starr hearing to start it off with. the president participated in a very meaningful way. so what's missing here is the house authorizing this inquiry, what's missing here is the 47 republicans you talked about that are participating feel like it's not a fair process they can't participate in a way that's meaningful. reporter: senator, if someone tried to interfere with the house impeachment process in the 1990's with president clinton, how would you have reacted? senator graham: i think you would be beating the shit out of us. i think if a republican did to a democrat you would be all over me. and i think it says a lot about people in your business, with all due respect. i can be confident if we had an intel committee inquiry involving a democratic president where we selected the leaked stuff, you would be calling us every kind of bad name and we would deserve it. what i am saying is there is a , right way to do it and a wrong way to do it and this is a dangerous way to do it. we'll let you both. reporter: just quickly

you want to be ken starr? be ken starr. come to the judiciary committee.rst witness and take every question asked of you. [applause] starting with your own involvement with the whistleblower. folks, this ain't over. spew on your reaction? >> [laughs] well, i guess i'm honored. but it was a very long day, and i really urge the committee in 1998 -- you have the facts, i'm not the accuser. i'm the fact gatherer, here are the facts. but if you want to come in the accuser, okay. but it's a fair point, isn't it? the house committee, 20 years ago, said, "you can gathering all these facts, let's now bring you before. if you are the counterpart to this guy named starr from years ago, let's put you in the hot seat. especially because there are some fair questions, that fair-minded people should want to know. >> harris: like what? give me one. >> what was your relationship with the whistleblower? because that was a blur, in order to be pristine, to be immaculate, that whistleblower, he or she needed to go to the inspector general. and not go trotting up to capitol hi

host: let me ask you about your former colleague, ken starr. the headline in "the examiner" -- "trump showed poor judgment but that is not a crime." he was on fox last week and i want to give you a chance to hear that and let you respond. >> i say that because impeachment is doomed to fail given what we know. obviously the facts are flowing in. in the history of the country, obviously presidential efforts to impeach do not work. that we know. but gets what -- but guess what, of the 62 impeachment resultedgs, eight have in convictions. this is not going to result in a conviction, so why are we on the impeachment train? we should be on the oversight calling it --t and quit calling it impeachment, especially since there is something profoundly wrong under our constitution to call it impeachment, that we are on a formal impeachment inquiry. no, with all due respect, until the house of representatives vote as a body to conduct an impeachment inquiry or investigation, there is simply action by committee that has been sanctioned by the speaker. it sou

host: that is former whitewater counsel can start -- can star -- ken starr. guest: it is difficult for me because ken is an old friend. i think he was deeply unfairly maligned by president clinton at the time. i continue to believe that the actions he took and i took while working with him in investigating president clinton were proper and appropriate. that having been said, most of what he just said is unfortunately not really persuasive and in some cases wrong. the house rules do not require a vote of impeachment. his structural point is an error. the house has in fact proceeded impeachmentte of against many of the judges that have been impeached. he is correct there have been 63 impeachments and only eight convictions. that's because most of the judges and others who get impeached resign rather than face the trial in the senate. so that is a misleading statistic, albeit a true one. notably, if the standard is that there should not -- you should not proceed with an inquiry unless you were certain there will be a conviction, that calls into question why he a

passed four articles of impeachment based on the starr report. it was transparent and subject to cross examination. two of those articles past the house. mueller investigated for two years and did not recommend any action. that is the difference. ? >> when it comes to impeachment messaging, it seems like the white house has changed course multiple times. you confident that you guys are on the same page? is that the hill now leading this messaging strategy? >> i spoke to mick mulvaney. getting theking on messaging team together. in thenvolved impeachment of president clinton. look what he did. team that was organized, had legal minds that could understand what was being said versus the legal proceedings in question. and they were on message everyday. president clinton defended himself but he never stopped being president. i think one of the reasons that publicived is that the may not have liked what he had done, but they believed that he was still able to do his job. that was probably the single best thing he did. i am hoping that will become the

you want to be ken starr. be we ken starr, come to the judiciary committee, be the first witness and take every question asked of you. >> folks, this aing ain't over t ready. reporter: they are getting ready, republicans and democrats are ready for this. the hot one on the list john bolton, they requested he appear, his lawyers said he would not show uh-u unless he is subpoenaed, and they will also get transcripts of the close-door meetings. elizabeth: or ignore subpoenas, that is what democrat say that republicans are doing. we bring in representative sense so-- your reaction to the vote. >> it is shameful what the democrats did today is deny the president of the united states, an opportunity to present a defense to what adam schiff and nancy pelosi are doing. what has been going on in secret in the scif, is behind closed-doors. it is one sided. and people are coming and testifying their impressions of the phone call that president trump made to the president of ukraine. he release a transcript of that. they

you had on your program ken starr sitting in the same share this gentleman is sitting in and ken starr was proud to say he investigated bill clinton for five years. their investigation was the equivalent of the mueller investigation and it lasted for five years and came back with 12 indictments after five years. also, the investigation was led by republicans, which of course was the opposite party of bill clinton. now we have the mueller report, which lasted less than two years and was republicans investigating a republican president, handed it over to a republican attorney general, who without letting anyone see the whole thing, made the conclusion, which turns out to be false, that there was no obstruction of justice. i wanted to speak to the fairness thing. in the mueller report, it came back with over 20 indictments in less than two years investigation, yet the whole time republicans were screaming this thing lasted too long, this is been going on too long. when you had ken starr come back in 1994 after five years with only 12 indictments and it was about a land deal in arkansas. i

fred. >> barbara starr, we'll check back with you from the pentagon. thank you. arwa damon is along the syria/turkey border. arwa, you know the turkish defense ministry says they have taken control of their first major city in its incursion into northern syria. as this kurdish city falls, what are you hearing from kurds, from people on the ground about what's unfolding here? >> reporter: well, ever since this offensive began, and that town that turkey is saying it controls is actually just in the distance there. we can see it from our vantage point here in turkey. but this entire offensive from its first day forced hundreds of thousands of civilians living on the syrian side of the border deeper into syrian territory because they are terrified as the turkish forces advance and the bombardment continues. they don't know where to go and don't know if they'll be able to come back home. now, from turkey's perspective, the syrian kurdish fighting force on the other side of this border, the ypg, is a terrorist organization and that is because it is an offshoot of the s

>> steve: ringo starr, man >> jimmy: that is ringo starr right there, ladies and gentlemen!ust -- he is just -- well, he's a beatle. >> steve: yeah [ cheers ] >> jimmy: he acts like a a bele [ light laughter ] >> steve: "peace and love. [ liverpudlian accent >> jimmy: "he talks like that. there we go there, jimmy how are you? and he came in i go, "nice to see you." he goes -- and he sat down and then i sat down. and then he stood up then i stood up. then he sat down we were going up -- it was like in a movie and then i go -- i was playing the drums. and i go, "i'm sorry if that was awful. he goes, "that's the best drumming i've heard all morning. [ light laughter ] so nice. that's the nicest thing anyone ever said to me. he goes, "i was lying. [ laughter ] i go, "were you telling the truth there? he goes, "yes, i was." [ light laughter ] three levels of funny. >> steve: come on. >> jimmy: the one and only ringo starr. >> steve: yeah >> jimmy: his new album "why's my name" - [ cheers and applause october 25th we'll be back with more of "the tonight show", everybody! [ cheers

i think the court. >> thank you general starr. >> mr. stewart you have three minutes. >> if i might address a couple of points. by this statement by general starr, that the senate does not sit as cocounsel and whom he represents all dissent that sits is a jury in the judge. that is in the record and it seems to me unavoidable in this case that the senate sits as a jury. i would like to address the final point to justice kennedy's question on impeachment, i would commend the 25th amendment which does talk about what you do when there is a problem with president.the i agree the removal of the president by the senate even inappropriate or unconstitutional teams he is no longer president. there is an opportunity for that to be president. remedied, and it creates unwarranted and unhappy ambiguity. the 25th amendment contemplates that in presidential incapacity. ambiguity will proceed. we do not embrace it, but neither can we shrink from deciding the constitutional issue presented. i would say -- >> after these arguments are over, they could g

>> barbara starr, thanks. >>> isis will go on. two senior law sources tell us the alert for potential retaliation from isis sympathizers inside the u.s. one official suggests there could be more operations targeting high-value terrorists in idlib, syria. the targeting operations require forces on the ground. that will be harder to do as we withdrawal. let's go to nick paton walsh. good morning. >> reporter: one of the glaring contradictions in donald trump's speech yesterday, was the recognition, that while he was busy ordering the withdrawal, the dismantling inside of syria, that's what happened, when he gave the green light to turkey, to launch the incursion, putting into chain, a series of events that led to half of the territory, that had a presence of being handed over, eventually, to turkish forces. at the same time, too, donald trump said, he was being briefed on this operation to go and get baghdadi. those two things, very hard to consider compatible, frankly. and at the same time, we're hearing, now, from u.s. officials,

barbara starr is at the pentagon. what does this mean for u.s. service members in the region? >> reporter: all those who crossed over it means get out of iraq. hard to see how soon that might actually happen. in an interview with cnn's christiane amanpour defense secretary mark esper tried to explain it all. >> we're conducting a phased

i want to bring in barbara starr at the pentagon. what raw learning? >> reporter: this is exactly what u.s. senior military commanders did not want to see. u.s. forces in northern syria near kobe annie apparently came dangerously close to turkish artillery fire coming out of turkey and landing several hundred meters away from that u.s. special forces position. initial reports indicate no u.s. troops were hurt in this event. but it's not what the u.s. wanted. one of the reasons they're so concerned about keeping u.s. troops in this region where the turkish advance is happening into syria. right now we also know that the u.s. military has emergency evacuation plans to pull some or all of the 1,000 troops in syria out of that country if the fighting accelerates and the view becomes simply too dangerous for them to stay there. jake. >> one wonders why the president made this decision about pulling the u.s. service members from

>> barbara starr, thanks. >>> baghdadi may be gone but officials warn that isis will go on. two senior law sources tell us law enforcement agencies are on the alert for potential retaliation from isis sympathizers inside the u.s. one official suggests there could be more operations targeting high-value terrorists in idlib, syria. the targeting operations require forces on the ground. that will be harder to do as we withdrawal. for more, let's go live to nick paton walsh in iraq. nick, you've covered al baghdadi for quite some time. remarkable, this operation. any sense to cede more control to the russians may prevent these operations in the future? >> there's no doubt that the massively reduced footprint will have an impact on the u.s. ability to go after what remains of isis leadership. there was a key problem with donald trump's statement, where he openly admitted, while he was taking a phone call from erdogan of turkey, and clean lighting a turkish incursion, to take on syria, around about the same time, he was being briefed about massive progress in the hunt for al baghd

after they got it from starr. and then -- >> no. >> -- there was confrontation. >> the house process gave certain rights to the minority every step of the way in the house in '74 and '98. >> no. only when they got to hearing level. >> that's not true. >> yes. >> the attorneys to the republican minority -- >> in the hearing phase. >> there was even a joint objective staff established. >> because there were special committees put together after they had the investigation done. you are right, this is different. but it's about what the distinction is in that difference. and you also have to add in this, fred. the idea of majority and minority right now, that balance is out of whack. why? 2015. you guys changed the rules. >> again, that wasn't for impeachment. that doesn't matter. >> you changed the rules, period. you didn't say not for impeachment. >> not for impeachment. >> you said period. >> the impeachment rules are changed so dramatically -- >> there are no rules for impeachment. >> there are rules for impeachmen

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it's equivalent to what special prosecutor starr did. prosecutor starr convened a grand jury behind closed doors. that's important. investigations happen behind closed doors. and he presented a report to congress. that's the equivalent of where we are today. you can expect open hearings, expect to see those transcripts relatively soon. >> do we need to hear from ambassador taylor in public? do the american people deserve to hear from him out loud? >> i think it's important the american people hear from people like taylor, from people like anita hill -- >> fiona hill. >> sorry, fiona. early in the morning. yes, i believe they need to hear that. i don't want to get out in front of the committee but i think that's -- americans need to understand exactly what happened. we learned in the mueller report, reading page 197 doesn't convey the same sort of attention that actually live testimony can. >> we appreciate you joining us this morning. thank you very much. >>> john, president trump's new defense secretary is not holding back about the dec

with clinton once starr was done, that's when they had their vote and then starr came unand that's the. they didn't call witnesses. >> the reason this is different is you just showed a clip and anderson clipper just showed a clip of joe biden saying the president should be impeached. nance nancy pelohsy has said over and over he needs be impeached. they're not saying we need start a process. nancy pelosi said that for a year 1/2. they're all saying you should be impeached. nobody in the democratic caucus is saying my mind is open. i don't know whether he should be impeached. but let's start a process to investigate him. they're not doing that. >> you have a handful of holdouts and a lot of people who say they are open and want an investigation and what's holding up the investigation is your side. they won't comply. this is true. they won't comply. >> there's never been a president that's been investigated every minute of the president. >> he's not complying. >> he's can completely complying. >> they won't give people up, they claimed lewandowski had executive privilege. >> let's take i

schiff, you want to be ken starr? at beacon's die. the judiciary committee and to be the first witness and take every question asked of y you. starting with your own involvement with the whistle-blower. folks, this ain't over. get ready. >> dana: chad pergram is following it all from capitol hill, i know you are ready. >> i'm bracing for it. here's what's interesting about that comment. what he is referring to is the model that was used in 1998 when the house judiciary committee called then ken starr who is the independent counsel investigating president clinton and had ken stark to questions and then you're david kendall who was president clinton's attorney turn and ask questions of ken starr. that was a remarkable moment. republic curtains are seeing who is the accuser if we were to follow that model from 1998? as it adam schiff question mike is at the whistle-blower? who could we pose questions too. here's the dirty secret if you get down into the nitty-gritty of this resolution it gives pretty good latitude to the house intelligen

starr, the independent counsel, worked the clinton case in private.pecial prosecutor, ran the jury -- the grand jury in nixon in private. and here the gop are in every deposition with equal time to question. and to the extent that the majority works the rules -- and they do -- who changed them? the gop changed the rules when they were in the majority to quiet the minority. remember benghazi? most of that took place in private too. why? just ask trey gowdy. >> you don't see the bickering among the members of congress in private interviews. you don't see any of that. the private ones always produce better results. >> where is that now? so what we saw was a stunt, all right? and, by the way, that stunt is another reason to keep it private as they investigate. no circus when no cameras. intel chair adam schiff laid out another really good reason to hold the hearings behind closed doors for now. think about this. it's of paramount importance to ensure that witnesses cannot coordinate their testimony with one another to match their description of events or

ken starr spent almost five years looking at clinton. he came before the committee. we had an impeachment inquiry vote. ken starr put forth to the senate judiciary committee the 11 allegations against president clinton. we passed four articles of impeachment based on the starr report that was transparent, subject to cross-examination. it was a public hearing. two of those articles past the house. what mueller did was investigate the president for two years, spent $25 million, and did not recommend any action. that's the difference. >> reporter: when it comes to impeachment, it seems like the white house was changed course multiple times. >> have you noticed? >> at this point are you confident that you are on the same page? >> i talked to chief of staff mulvaney. i think they are working on getting a messaging team together. you know, i was involved in impeachment of president clint president clinton. i know this sounds weird. but clinton. [laughs] look what did. what he'd did his he had a team that was organized, had legal minds that understand was being said versus

barbara starr. nick paton walsh, you wanted to say something. >> reporter: sorry. bear in mind the history of cease-fires in sear kyria here. often dealing with other provinces in syria, a cease-fire is violated, all about manipulating a political negotiation that essentially a period of time in which people think things are okay and calming down. you achieve your military objective on the ground and go back to political negotiation again. so bear in mind the term cease-fire may mean something different to vice president pence when he talks about it, but for the established players on the ground like the syrian regime and russian government, turkish perhaps in all this, too, it may mean someone slightly less solid and we still don't have a geographical boundary where it applies. if things happen out that boundary, could be all off in a matter of hours. >> nick paton walsh, barbara starr, thank you so much. >>> and special coverage continues with extraordinary news out of turkey and out of the white house today. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> brianna,

once starr was done, that's when they had their vote and then starr came in and that's the only persons able to deal with. they didn't call their own witnesses. that was for the senate not the house. >> the reason this is different, you just showed a clip of joe biden saying the president should be impeached. >> i didn't show it, it was anderson. >> nancy pelosi has said over and over again, the president needs to be impeached. these democrats aren't saying, we need no start a process by which we consider whether the president should be impeached, nancy pelosi said that for a year and a half. she's saying he should be impeached. nobody, nobody in the democratic caucus is saying, look, my mind is open, i don't know whether he should be impeached, but let's start a process to investigate him. they're not doing that. >> you have a handful of holdouts and a lot of people who say they're open and they want investigation -- >> not in the leadership. >> what's holding up the investigation is your side. they won't comply. >> that's not true. >> it's absolutely true, they won't comply. >> there

starr, you could see what you are looking at. you can say this is a trivialized thing, people are way more concerned about what might happen in the ukraine than did withbill clinton monica lewinsky. than youro get more base, you are scratching the bottom and i think -- i know we have a lot of trump people here, but i don't think strategically it is serving your interest very well. >> we are going to have a chance -- mr. hannity: can i add one thing? james is really good at what he does, he is a formidable strategist and a battler and i admire him for it. , donaldot to remember trump, keep underestimating him. theicked the shit out of bush dynasty and he kicked the shit out of hillary clinton and nobody saw that coming. james is saying, republicans are nervous. how do you think the 40 house trump-won districts are feeling if nancy pelosi and the corrupt fact witness in the case running soviet union style impeachment hearings, how do you think those 40 democrats are feeling? mr. carville: i know, they will vote to impeach him. a lo

barbara starr has the latest from the pentagon. >> reporter: dave, christine, the top u.s.ommander briefing reporters at the pentagon about the mission to get baghdadi. right off the top, it should be noted that general mckenzie said he could not confirm president trump's details that baghdadi died whimpering and crying. in fact, general mckenzie suggested that at some point baghdadi had attempted to fire his weapon. he showed three sets of videos. the first video was u.s. forces on helicopters approaching the compound, when they came under fire from the ground. forces onboard the helicopters returned fire and eliminated that threat. they don't think it was isis forces protecting baghdadi, that it was other militants in the area. the second video, if you look and see the dark figures approaching, those are u.s. special forces approaching the compound. they found him in a tunnel. he detonated a suicide vest, killing himself and two children. they had thought it was three. now, they know it was two children. the tunnel collapses, fills with water. and two u.s. troops and a mi

i had more fun slapping ken starr around than most anything i've ever done in my life. the second thing we did is we trivialized the charge. i mean, come on, guys. the third thing we did is we kept the base intact. the only thing i've seen them doing is keeping their base intact. well, their base alone is not going to win. lindsey graham, i'm going to quote him. said the president was defiant. he just kept saying he did nothing wrong, did nothing wrong, over and over. he went on to say, i went against the clinton people, and they were good. i told the president, we got to get better. being a dog howling at the moon at the mainstream media and the clintons, you control the justice apartment and the state department, if something is wrong, investigate it. you have the entire power of the united states government behind you. if she was doing whatever, investigate. you have fbi, cia, everything in the world. article from january 20 17 -- go do it. law --was breaking the of course, we heard ad nauseam, ad infinitum about the stupid but i'm just saying as someone who has seen

you want to be ken starr? beacon star. come to the judiciary committee.e first witness and take every question asked of you. [applause] starting with your own involvement with the whistleblower. folks, this ain't over. get ready. the cloud that is dropping will be dropping on their heads, because process matters, and substance will always win out in the end. and this president has nothing to worry about on substance. i yield back. [applause] >> congress will go back to their districts for a week. tomorrow will be november 1st. one year before -- >> harris: all right. you heard my call to listen to represented of doug collins. did you hear what he just said? he has now called the chairman of the house intel, adam schiff, as a witness in front of the house judiciary. he said, "this is far from over." literally, on the left, the left side of the screen when we split them out, the democrats now are taking questions from the media. we've been toggling back and forth. our team will tell me if we want to do that. meanwhile, there is a lot of meat on the bones to

schiff, you want to be ken starr, be ken starr. be the first witness and take every question that is asked of you, starting with your own involvement with the whistleblower. folks, this ain't over. get ready. the cloud that is dropping will be dropping on their heads because process matters and substance will win out in the end and this president hasn't anything to worry about on substance. i yield back. [applause] >> congress will go back to their districts for a week. tomorrow will be november 1, one year before voters cast a vote not just for congress but for president. it is unfortunate in this congress when they go back, they'll run on the re-election having more subpoenas than laws and not trusting the american people to have the choice. the vote today was bipartisan not to move forward. we have a speaker of the house who said that impeachment would drive the country apart, would have to be bipartisan. there was one clear voice on where this congress believes this should go. there is nothing the president did to be impeached.

ken starr responds to exactly what that means. what are they trying to hide? next. ♪ >> adam schiff trying to run a kangaroo court. why is he continuing to limit access to members of congress. >> laura: that was congressman matt gaetz after adam schiff kicked them out from impeachment hearing today. he tried to sit in of the security council on russia which was being held of course behind closed doors. but having one republican sit and on the secret hearing proved to be too much for adam schiff. >> we want to make sure that the investigation and not to give the president or his legal minions the opportunity to tailor their testimony and in some cases, fabricate a testimony to suit their interests. >> laura: oh, is that it's, adam? joining us now, ken starr, andnd former doj prosecutor, another day and another closed-door hearing. should americans be worried here? about how any political party, this happens to be the democrats this time. this time, ten hours of testimony. >> there should be deep concerns. in america, we do not believe in secret trials. remember

ken starr, great to see you. coming by today. >> sandra: thank you. >> i spoke to my counterpart a few days ago and warned them if they do this incursion which we oppose we'll see everything from the release of isis prisoners to humane tehran catastrophe and damage u.s. relations with turkey. all this is playing out exactly as we predicted. we know and believe that the turks now intend to go further south than originally expected and to go both west and east. >> that defense secretary mark esper putting turkey on notice as we learn hundreds of isis sympathizers, women and children escaped. the kurds reaching a deal brokered by russia to partner with syria against troops from turkey. got that? lucas tomlinson live from the pentagon. >> defense secretary esper says the situation gets worse than the hour. he said president trump ordered all u.s. forces in northern syria to pull back from the border and away from the russian and iranian-backed forceers moving north and the turkish forces moving south. the turkish inv

aaron starr manager of legislative affairs. an ordinance to amend the planning code to extend the date by which a must have received a permit to operate from the department of public health to be deemed contemporary cannabis sale used from december 31 to december 31, 2020. amend the planning code to extend the duration of the temporary cannabis retail sales up to three years to expire on january 1, 2021. >> good evening, commissioners. kyle seeley from supervisor mandleman office. thank you for hearing this item today. as aaron mentioned the ordinance before you will amend the planning code to extend the date by which grandfathered medical cannabis dispensary must receive a permit to operate from the department of public health from december 31, 2019 to december 31, 2020. it will also extend the duration of a temporary cannabis retail sales use from a 13 years. this will give grandfathered medical cannabis dispensaries until december 31, 2022 obtain the permits to operate and it will allow temporary cannabis resale uses to be p

clinton's people got to interview people during the ken starr thing. why not do it? >> i don't know what the political motivations are at play. right now what they are try doing is conduct most of this investigation through the house intelligence committee, which has the purview over this. it could be that by formalusiiz formalizinging it would transfer it to the judiciary kmuty. either way they've invoked this power. it doesn't mock a difference in terms of the grounds in which they're pursuing this. if trump really wants a forum in which to clear his name, that's what the senate trial is for and what he's arguing for is a full-fledged trial, not that house has any obligation, just like a prosecutor wouldn't have a ford the perspective defendant to present witnesses in front of a grand jury. >> there are two practical problems. arguably three but i'll save one for the follow up. one, even if you had that subpoena power, the way it works in committees is the majority can over rule whatever the minority wants to subpoena and the reason they can do that is because your

thank you michael steele and michael starr hopkins. coming up, what impact if any will the killing of the isis leader have on the 2020 presidential race. we'll have julian castro next. >>> but first my colleague with today's other top stories. >>> stories we're watching this hour, a man hunt under way after a gun fight kills two and injures 16 others in east texas. the shooting took place at a homecoming party near texas a&m northeast of dallas late last night. the suspect used a hand gun. all victims are in their late teens or early 20s. the shooter may have entered through the back door and may have targeted one victim before firing at ran donnel. >>> then in california, governor gavin newsom has declared a statewide emergency due to out of control wild fires. 180,000 were evacuated in an area just north of san francisco. the precautionary power outages stretch across 36 counties, impacted more than 2 million people. the fires are being made worse by high winds which triggered red flag warnings. >>> a short time ago, nbc news that jo

what's unique about this particular situation is we don't have a ken starr. we don't have a special prosecutor building the case, right. these committees are building the case. it will be turned over to the judiciary committee. the president has been afforded all kind of rights before the judiciary committee. as the fair process. it's an open and transparent process. we're at the next stage here, the gathering of the everyday is coming to a close. it is now time to present the evidence to the judiciary committee and the american people. here is a road map. we will explain, have an some hearing here today, we are explaining how we will do this. the question on wood jaul. mislesco, you hading? ? >> thank you, mr. chairman. you know, i support this amendment. i just disagree with you. this is not what you have set forth here is not an open and fair process. because you are giving some of the rights that were afforded to nixon and clinton under both republican and democrat leadership in just the judiciary committee. but there's a huge difference. under those impe

starr? >> thank you. regarding the conditional use authorization. as you said, if they are not in compliance, staff can take them to the planning commission and have their conditional use authorization revoked. >> how many times has that happened in the last ten years? >> i would have to check the record. >> can you count them on one hand? >> i don't know how many times that has happened. we do have the ability to enforce the conditional use approval. if trader joe's went out of business, or was bought by another company whole foods has more locations than trader joe's, maybe not, i don't know. any formula retail that has more locations than the existing would be considered an intensification so they have to come back for approval. when that new storm moved in they would have to show that they meet all of the findings,, in the conditional use. staff felt there was enough and there that we could've forced upon the affordability requirement without having them do a yearly report to us. >> i'm not stepping on the reporting requirement. i am stepping on

barbara starr joins us now from the pentagon. barbara, i think folks at home will be confused by this pendulum swing. they're in, they're out. now some of them are staying in. this is purely about the oil fields? >> i don't think that's exactly the whole picture right now. where we are is this. most -- many of the u.s. troops have come out of the northern syria area along the turkish border. what we're now talking about are the troops that are in the eastern oil fields of syria. u.s. troops had been in that area for many, many, many months, working on the isis fight there. what secretary mark esper said in afghanistan earlier today is that they are not yet scheduled to come out anyhow, so as they stay for now, they will work on ensuring the oil fields are protected. have a listen to a bit of what he had to say? >> a purpose of those forces, working with the sdf is to deny access to those oil fields by isis and others who may benefit from their revenues. >> but key language there from secretary esper, denied to isis and others, an