and we'll take the pulse of the commercial real estate industry in an exclusive interview with starwoodore "street signs" coming up right now with mandy. >> okay, ross, thank you very much. and brian, by the way. they say age is nothing but a number. but when it comes to retirement, it is the number. it is the mandy and brian show with some herb sprinkled in. don't worry. vanguard says more americans opting for target rate funds based on a person's estimated retirement date. we're talking about a six-fold increase in just five years. joining us is the director of the vanguard center for retirement research. steve, this is explosive growth. is it a good thing? >> mandy, i think it is. you know, for many years we were worried that workers really struggled with the idea of building a portfolio from the building blocks that were given to them in thundershower 401 k plans. >> does it reduce the return as well? >> what you do see is individuals are in more balanced strategies so you see younger people more equity-oriented and as they approach retirement they get lower risk and lower returns.