and then in the south pacific, he met stasson. and from that meeting, stasson was going through, and i think he actually brought mail with him. but he was going through on a good will tour to the troops. and that made a great impression on nixon. and nixon at the '48 convention was a stasson man. one of his other great memories of the war, even talking to me in the '70s, that he remembered fondly was seeing eleanor roosevelt. he didn't know who it was. he knew that there was a jeep convoy. and he sort of craned his neck to see who it was. and riding in the back of the jeep with no particular protection was eleanor roosevelt. and he had never seen a first lady. and that made a great impression on him. the -- i think the early life -- i'm very partial to it. both in the terms of the formation of nixon's character and his ideas but also because it could correct a lot of the misunderstandings. gary wills memorably writes about driving down to yorba linda to see the birthplace. and he says that driving through this wasteland of oil der