it was this person from the washington state aclu. only open on dispensaries we need to put them in poor neighborhoods to the people who have been most victimized by police will have a chance to turn a profit. there is a good idea. ireland. are going after the liquor industry. you guys you guys really have to push at this hard. i i got scolded for it. people yielded me. look if you start smoking and you lose iq and started with less it hurts you more. if your motivation for school wasn't as strong you are the succeeding a lower. there isn't any question. take a malady, take something that is harmful to society, distributed equally to all classes people offend in all classes, as you said but the fx and harm, some people have safety nets and will be able to go to treatment centers, and some people want. >> we have brought it up a bunch of times. we have all four minutes left. alcohol. alcohol is bad for you. and the book symmetric in a martini and eating steak dinner came by and said is the virtuous? >> let the record show we have had m

and it was this person from the washington state aclu saying when we open our dispensaries we need to put them in the poor neighborhoods so the people who have been most victimized by you know the police will have a chance to turn a profit. now there's a good idea. [laughter] you know, this was like when, you know i remember going after some of the liquor industry for the excessive advertising in harlem of, you know, the beer and the alcohol. >> host: right. >> guest: you guys really have to push it this hard? and i got scolded for it. people yelled at me, you know on our side of the table, but nevertheless, it was the right thing to do. look, if you start smoking and you lose iq and you started with less iq, it hurts you more. if your motivation for school isn't that strong and you start smoking dope and your motivation is lower your odds of succeeding are lower. there isn't any question. >> host: right. >> guest: so take a malady, take something that's harmful to society, distribute it equally to all classes, people will offend in all classes, as you've said, but the effects of the

state. >> under the current system there's no state requirement to collect and share data on the use of force with police unless it causes death. >> reporter: aclu northern california executive director abdi sultani says his organization is backing two bills in the state legislature that would require police to collect data based on race of who was stopped, searches or the subject of a serious use of force. sultani says some large police departments in the state do collect that data. >> it's shown that african americans may be stopped at very high numbers, but it yields very few arrests compared to whites. >> reporter: currently he says use of force incidents in a state are difficult to track and what data is collected is not accessible to the public. >> the fact that we do not collect this information and make it public in the year 2015, it's something that needs to be corrected right now. >> reporter: passing legislation to require police departments to collect racial profile data has actually passed before that legislation but it was vetoes by governor gray davis way back in 1989. the arguments were increased cost and usefulness of that data.

state legislature. i mean, and i'm sure aclu had the same experience that eff has had, in the last two years the number es and not just, like stingray, but about digital search and seizure, license plate readers all of this is blown up and, you know, state legislative offices have a role to play here. i have to credit the utah affiliate of the nacdl who got an amazing bill passed to their state legislature, i think about a year ago that basically put a warrant requirement for everything, like, meta data, subscriber -- everything has a warrant in the state of utah. you may think it is the state of utah, there is not a ton of people there, but, you know, the more, you know, as eff and aclu want to write amicus briefs, and of states that legislated in this area that is an indicator of where you know, the public feels about these issues. and so i think that's another avenue, especially if you're in a state

state. the ruling that caused a lot of aclu arguments go back to the history of our country, about the idea g a part of the state but not running state. there is a big difference there. a lot of people don't know the history. it is very simple. you don't have to be christian to respect that. about setting rules and values. >> the students to pray. >> that is different. >> very different. >> in fact that's what united states court of appeals for the second circuit ruled in several of these cases. this is not the first one we've seen. >> right. >> in times they have upheld the words to be used in public venues they used your argument. >> should have been a lawyer. >> look at you. >> one lucky buy. >> i got a tweet from one of my old broadcasters. we pitched a lot of times in front of nobody but that was by choice. that is all right. all good. >> new report is v. real -- is revealing hillary clinton gone longer than any other presidential candidate in modern history without conducting a sit-down interview with the national press. what do we make of this? >>> plus latest on her comments about th

and i think conservatives in the state are still against. i was on the aclu site. urns out just 21 states and washington, d.c., according to their map have specific nondiscrimination clauses that include gays and lesbians. 29 states don't. so some people want this provision added to indiana. this fix of the law says this law can't be used for discrimination, but it's not specifically a nondiscrimination law. >> but it's enough to garner the support of businesses which were extremely critical of the way the law was first written. we saw mary mentioned many businesses based in indiana coming out in support of this. the ncaa which would host the final four in the state this weekend says it's very pleased, henry, but it does beg the question, regardless of your beliefs and regardless of whether you agree with the fact that indiana said it needed a response to the hobby lobby decision, whether any state can afford to turn its back on the way the business community has very clearly shown. >> it's great to see that the business community had actually band together and make

way -- that now functions in a european-ish way, bringing together the church and state that might scandalize the aclu today, and in your view, even that view is too pollyannaish. we do continue to have a european-style religious establishment that we only see if we look to the states, that we don't see if we emphasize the federal government. is that fair, that there is a kind of consensus there? whether it's formal, in your somewhat minority view, or whether it's informal, but either way, we don't get the robust -- as robust religious freedom as we would imagine. kathleen: i would say that's always the case. i would argue that religious liberty, like any liberty for the united states, standing as it does for freedom hints at the enormity of the burden of slavery -- it is always a process. religious liberty, like every other liberty we have established, is a work in progress. every generation is adding to that. sometimes, it is a regress, but to quote king, to quote arcs, these arcs of time, america is on an arc. i wasn't as disappointed by the 19th century as david was. i wouldn't have expected them

another approach is to go through state legislature. i am sewer that aclu has had the same experience that eff has had, the last two years a number of phone calls and the levenlgs lative office that's want to talk about the issues and not just stingray but about the digital search and seeds you are and license plate readers, all of this is blown up. you know. and the state legislative offices have a role to play here. i would have to credit the utah affiliate of the nacdl that got an amazing bill passed through the state legislature a year ago and basically it put a warrant requirement for everything. like data, subscriber and everything has a warrant in the state of utah. you may be thinking state of utah not a ton of people. law enforcement. and you know the more as eff. when they write the briefs we will cite to the statutes and as the footnote is getting better bigger and bigger and bigger. statutes that have legislated in the area, that is an indicator of where the public feels about the issues. and so i this i that is another avenue, especially if you

state legislature. i mean, and i'm sure aclu had the same experience that eff has had, in the last two years, the number of phone calls from state legislative offices who want to talk about these issues and not just, like, stingray, but about digital search and seizure, license plate readers, all of this is blown up and, you know, state legislative offices have a role to play here. i have to credit the utah affiliate of the nacdl who got an amazing bill passed to their state legislature, i think about a year ago, that basically put a warrant requirement for everything, like, metadata, subscriber -- everything has a warrant in the state of utah. you may think it is the state of utah, there is not a ton of people there, but, you know, the more, you know, as eff and aclu want to write amicus briefs, and as the footnote gets bigger and bigger of states that have legislated in this area, that is an indicator of where you know the public feels about these issues. and so i think that's another avenue, especially if you're in a state where -- you're somebody who knows your local representative, or if the state

aclu. and and two states. marriage equality. and nationalize it. the california supreme court.meant that with people there was no option rather than to go for the federal claim. and it was the dilemma of everybody faced in 2009 after the 2008 election. and there was disagreements pretty strong disagreements. i will go ahead and ask the supreme court to recognize equality in that year. so the movement afterall was still a cutely aware of the generation to overcome the decision that almost won in 1986. and it took until 17 years later to have that decision. so when you lose in the court. it will make it worse if you had never gone there in the first place. that is was apart of the disagreement and i would say that the disagreement over the issue and pretty much the experts that had been done. prepared in the state cases. and traditional day rights groups. and an as soon as now that john davidson had said this that somebody was going to bring that challenging proposition. at least it was did not by the high quality legal team that was put together at the time. so those issues are

change as part of the 2009 settlement with the aclu after accusations of physical and sexual assaults and an absence of physical or mental health care, the state of new mexico offers constant resources even on the outside and has one of the poorest populations of children in the nation. here, keith gets a full day of school. daily counseling. guards that double as mentors. the reforms come from a program called cambiar, spanish word for change. implemented at all five of new mexico's juvenile centers. al jazeera america got extensive access inside to see the impact it's had on the inmates. keith is seven months into a two-year sentence. he's had only one family visit and he's nursing an old basketball injury. >> first it was pretty bad. my anger was pretty bad. so i needed to just learn how to control it better. it's kind of hard though. because right whether i start feeling it, i try to tell myself to calm down but it doesn't really work that much so i have to learn how to just remove myself from situations that's going to make me angry. >> reporter: i see his softer side. and then suddenly i see another side of keith when, out of nowhere he

state attorney general harris. and she's walking in here with her sister. maya attended cal and stanford. she's a former executive director of the aclu of northern california and former dean of san jose's lincoln law school. >>> and here's something you don't see often. a tornado touching down in you gene oregon. amazingly, no one was seriously hurt. >>> our chief meteorologist, i believe spent time in oregon. not sure if you experienced that. >> not there. and it's still gusty at the oakland airport. gusts as high as 23 miles per hour. and helping to keep temperatures consistent across the bay. and low 50s for tonight. it's agd adding friction in the atmosphere. temperatures will be dropping into 40s for a few select locations. 42 in the north bay, 43 in the east bay. and a light jacket but then check this out. a 30 to nearly 40 jump in temperatures for particular locations here. and we're going to have full on sunshine from the interior valleys right to the coast line. and that's going to put us to 77 here in san jose. and it's not exactly efwoegoing to bow a warm day here. and the marina in san francisco, likely at 67 and we're go

. >> the aclu this morning has uncovered a case in new york state where a sheriff's office using the very same device, which also promised to use it with a court order, used the stingray 48 times and 47 of those times did not get a court order. didn't even tell anybody, in fact. now, obviously, we can't condemn santa clara county for something erie county in new york state did. but it is a cautionary tale. the people in erie county took the sheriff's word for it and granted the stingray request. >>> let's talk about something a little lighter, shall we? there's a new reality show in the works, based on the start-up school in san mateo called draper university. the show will be called "start-up u." you can find it on abc family. not the first time we've seen a silicon valley reality show. there was one called "silicon valley." it was universally panned. this one was a silicon valley that none of us had ever seen. one of the characters said silicon valley is like high school, but it's only the smart kids and everybody has a lot of money. >> fairly accurate. >> maybe it did exist, we ju

aclu after accusations of physical and sexual assaults. >> and an absence of medical or mental health care. the state of new mexico offers scant resources. even on the outside, and has one of the poorest populations of children in the nation. here keith gets a full day of school... daily counseling. guards that double as mentors. the reforms come from a program is called "cambiar" the spanish word for change, implemented at all 5 of new mexico's juvenile centers. al jazeera america got extensive access inside to see the impact its had on the inmates. keith is 7 months into a 2-year sentence. he's had one family visit and he's nursing an old basketball injury. >> at first, it was pretty bad. heh. my anger was pretty bad. so i needed to just learn how to control it better. it's kinda hard, though. 'cause right when i start feeling it, i try to tell myself to calm down, but it doesn't really work that much. so i have to learn how to just remove myself from a situation that's gonna make me angry. >> i see his softer side. >> well i just think things happen for a reason. i don't know, maybe, me coming her

you may think it is the state of utah, there is not a ton of people there, but, you know, the more, you know, as eff and aclu want to write amicus briefs, and of states that legislated in this area that is an indicator of where you know, the public feels about these issues. and so i think that's another avenue, especially if you're in a state where -- you're somebody who knows your local representative or if the state nacdl affiliate has a relationship with a member of the state legislature that is another opportunity where there is a lot of room to work. and i mentioned utah, but it is the same experience right now in oregon, for example. oregon association of criminal defense lawyers is working with the aclu of oregon and legislator to get a great piece of comprehensive electronic privacy legislation that has suppression remedyies, a warrant requirement for location, for cell phones it has great restrictions on license plate reader data. that is also another kind of middle ground approach. >> i hate to wrap this discussion up, it has been so great. i want to thank our discussants for great commentary and y

state and local police don't have a right to ask for those papers. i find that to be very problematic. >> check out my screen, this is the aclu, they gave a map the government 100-mile border zone, it is all around north south, even the coastal area they are saying about 197 million people live within coastal boards and we have on youtube, you can type in border patrol, and check out all these videos that people have uploaded and we asked our community, if this is necessary, saying it is annoying but useful, the refusersic have a point, unfortunately, it is a blurry one. and another one, being stopped is one thing, being searched is another, many of these cars end up being searched that's when it becomes unconstitutional. now, james, you are from the aclu, is the fourth amendment a santa claus for civil lib beforeties attorneys like you? what is your take? is there a gray area? is this constitutional, and the border patrol have license to do what they are doing? there are a couple of issues. one is whether they are lawful in and of they wants and many people, including federal judges including at least one supreme court justice, have suggested there's no wa

on behalf of the united states government, i offer our deepest apologies to the families. amy: we'll get reaction from the aclu. today marks the 100th anniversary of the armenian genocide. >> the fate of the armenians is exemplary for the history of mass extermination, ethnic cleansing, expulsions, even genocide of which the 20th century stands for in such a gruesome manner. amy: on april 24, 1915, the government of the ottoman empire began a systematic premeditated genocide of the armenian people-an unarmed christian minority living under turkish rule. an estimated 1.5 million armenians were exterminated through direct killing starvation, torture, and forced death marches. another million fled into permanent exile. we'll speak peter balakian, author of, "the burning tigris: the armenian genocide and america's response" and with two armenian americans here in denver, colorado. where an armenian genocide monument will be unveiled today at the state capital. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. president obama has apologized after t

state attorney general camilla harris. maya attended cal and stanford law school. she was once the executive director of acluof northern california. she was also dean of san jose's lincoln law school. >>> up next now at 11:00, thieves targeting bay area mailboxes. but it's the victimized community that's having to pay the price. >>> a bizarre scene fighting it out in germany. >>> there is a problem. neighbors say they're being prevented from fix it go. a growing crime trend in one city. thieves breaking into their mailboxes. now they say the post office wants them to pick up the tab. >>> cheryl hurd talked to upset residents. >> that lifts up that. that's how they opened it. this side opens up when this side opens. that's how simple it is to get into these boxes. >> reporter: that was three months ago. alex captured some of the alleged thieves on his home surveillance camera. as you can see, the mailbox in this pittsburgh neighborhood is still broken. >> i was told that we own the mailboxes and, because we own the mailbox, that us neighbors have to fix the mailbox. >> reporter: he says he was shocked to find

enforcement agencies in the state that are proceeding in that direction now and this is legislation that they need in order to put their programs together. >> reporter: the aclu cites concern. the measure does not address privacy issues potential mining of police video databases or using footage of constitutionally protected gatherings as an investigative tool. the legislation also establishes a task force to come up with best practices. the recommendations will be made to the police training commission by january 2016. however, the commission doesn't have to follow them. the governor says he will sign legislation requiring law enforcement to generate reports on police in custody deaths. the bill gained momentum in the general assembly when an aclu report found that at least 109 people died in police encounters in maryland between 2010 and 14. baltimore city topped the list with 31 police in custody deaths. almost daily protests are stretching the resources of baltimore city police. the governor confirms the city has asked for assistance. >> the front line will be the baltimore city police, but the state will be backing them up and providing assistance as nee

. >> the aclu says use of force incidents in the state are difficult to track and what data is collectedcceptable for the public. >>> changes under way for minivans that will help decrease delays, and they gave got ahead for the mta to use a card control system and it's called double birthing, it allows two trains in the station at the same time, it will help speed up loading and unloading passengers during peak commuting hours, and double birthing can start as early next month. it will be the monster jam event, and they're advising train riders to purchase round trip tickets in advance. they'll run one express bus from the freemont station and it will start 2 hours before the 7pm, golfer jordan, he appears to have mastered one of the most famous courses in the world. he's 14 under par after the first two rounds. it's masters tournament record. his 36 whole score and it breaks the record set by ray floyd. he is relaxed and is striking the ball well. tiger woods is tied for 9th plays and he's two under par for the tournament. >>> the search is on for robbery suspects. that was wild chase

i mean the previous city state's attorney was one that did not bring forward indictments when it came to police officers. in fact the aclu between 2010 and 2014 109 people died after police encounters most being african-american. and i can count on the hand how many police officers were indicted and how far we got along in the legal process. that's a part of the frustration ear in baltimore. freddie gray is one name and of course we should focus on him and his family but i have to speak the name of tyrone west anthony anderson monet turnedge and so many others where people have been brutalized by police nothing seems to come of it. >> as i mentioned, the baltimore police commissioner is expected to make some sort of statement or some sort of news conference at the top of the hour. we do expect him to talk about this police report that he's about to turn over to the state's attorney. that's supposed to happen tomorrow. perhaps it's happening earlier, we just don't know yet. i'm going to throw to my colleagues. i'm carol costello. thank you very much for joining me. i'll throw it to john berman in baltimore and kate in new

the aclu says the death of freddie gray after his arrest was not the product of a few bad apples but a long-time structural problem within the police department. governor hogan has sent state troopers to charm city to help keep the peace. a small scuffle broke out yesterday. but mainly the five days of demonstrations have been peaceful and a group of ministers are praying it stays that way. >> we have been dekraaiing the level of violence in -- dekraaiing the level of violence in our community, violence exacerbated by unprofessional policing that makes us fearful of thugs and afraid to go seek help from the police. >> reporter: the justice department investigating a civil rights violation. that is under way. baltimore city police will wrap up its investigation next friday. the six officers involved in the arrest are suspended with pay. live in the satellite center, delia goncalves, wusa9. >>> it's been one week since university of mary washington student grace mann was murdered here in fredricksburg. today her family, friends and fellow classmates will be here not to mourn her death but to celebrate her life. now police say her house mate stephen vander briel is responsibl

state. anywhere that doesn't have a municipal lgbt rights ordnance. so we've returned to the battle days. we've left the worse days that this religious enabling actor tended. but we haven't fixed it. and the aclul and angie's list are not satisfied. hilariously enough the religious right is fires you about this fix. putting in this legislation that they spent all week claiming does not legalize discrimination against lgbt people. actually preventing it from being used to legalize discrimination against lgbt people. this is angering them. so as they've been saying all week, it was never the intent of the law, and the law wouldn't enable discrimination. why is it a problem that it's been added to the law,that it cannot be used to justify discrimination? it really kbifs them a lie. this was all about legalizing discrimination against lgbt people? targeting specifically lgbt people. and it's bad for corporate america. it's bad for the creative economic. it's bad for apple and angie's list. and somehow mike pence didn't get the home moe about the cultural shift going on in the last 20 years in this country. and he has egg all over his face. >> let's talk about the coalition. the group of organizati

it is a lot of the same people in the state legislature who supported that measure, who reintroduced this measure. that is part of the reason that groups like the aclu this latest push for religious freedom laws and say, this is about same-sex marriage. this is about gay couples. that is why you are doing this now. absolutely the timing of this is a reason it is coming to a head in a way that it did not when the federal religious freedom lot was packed or some of the earlier state acts were passed. host: we have heard the baker and those examples. do we see those bear out in court cases prosecuted under these laws? guest: we do. there was an interesting example in 2013. it was a photographer in new mexico. new mexico has one of these laws that it did earlier. the photographer did not want to shoot a same-sex couples wedding. she went to court, she went all the way through her appeal, and she lost at every turn. that is one of the things that indiana points due to say it is a legal defense, but not a day care -- but not a guarantee that you will win. on the other side of the coin, indiana has drafted its law and a couple of ways that if you want to d