and by 2 will be speaking to the man who is chief of stuff to george w bush's secretary of state colin powell but 1st to one of the greatest chronic lives of the united states empire, a filmmaker explored both the horror of 911 and the planning of us imperialist was before and after 9112001, and join. now, by all of a stone oscar winning director and writer films like salvador j, f, k, world trade center, nixon, wolf, street, and platoon. all of a thanks so much for coming back. gone. happy birthday. that's what i got to say to you. first of all, i mean the commentators are all talking about how your films one way to cope with 911 the 20 or anniversary. can you see why $75.00 is very young and you should be putting out at least 2 or 3 feature films a year now. my father lived to about 75. exactly. so i think, i think, you know, modern times had been good to us and prosperity has been good to us and allowed us to live longer. so i'm grateful. and i hope i stay young and making films as tough . but i've been working really hard on these 2 documentaries that are coming out j f k one. we talked a

today's coming underground on our team, we hear from a former chief of staff, the secretary of state, colin powell, who reflects on america's post 911 policy and where it might have gone wrong. fear and re was how they made the decisions they made in the aftermath. that's not a good environment in which to make national security decisions for fear, as i indicated was they will get rid of us. but then there was a quick realization really coming after the brief owl and the megaphone in new york, where the president said, and the people who did this will hear from us that is, polls would skyrocket and they did. so they quickly became motivated by political considerations. the poll numbers of the 911 mix up the rhetoric with a strategy involving defense companies on k street. and how this can be manipulated into a, into a money spinning idea off the bodies of those who are killed as an hours warning in january 1960, about the military industrial complex was just put on steroids. the complex became desirous of analysts war analysts war that would feed them like a cash cow and keep them alive and breath

as chief of staff to then us sector of state colin powell. no, i distinguished professor william and maybe college was his assessment of america's longest war. he joins alec shortly, but 1st your treats messages and emails and response to actual last week on political pulling between professor john curtis. i'm james kelly didn't. scott said love it opinion for youth and i'm free. doesn't stipulate what the rest of us has got into thinking. i'm, it's not simple monica, i don't know. faith. this is a must watch for all induce supporters. i'm from, responds to james kelly, the parents. teddy says, great sho, get to see you on a gym. and finally, sarah alba says it was nice to see you on tv been, let's have more non virgin kernel lord and wilkerson prepared the un presentation by which colon power justified the invasion of iraq to the international community . he describes it as the worst moment of his professional life. i say, moved from washington insider to tension critic of the new york on policies of successive us administration. he joins al

ambassador to the united states and to lawrence wilkerson, aide to the former secretary of state colin powell his role in the war on terror. and how hope curdled into defeat. i reflect on how america's war squandered global good will and restored the taliban to power. plus -- >> i ran over the p.a.s, and i grabbed the mic, and

wilkerson was at the, at the center of decision making as chief of staff to then us secretary of state colin powell no, i distinguished professor william and made a college, was his assessment of a medical longest war. he joins alec shortly, but 1st you are 2 semesters and the most in response to actual last week on political polling between professor john curtis. i'm james kelly. did scott said, love it, opinion poor youth and faith doesn't stipulate what the rest of us in scotland are thinking i'm. it's not simple. monica, don't say that this is a must watch for all induce supporters. i didn't respond to james kelly, the parents. teddy says grace, sure to see you on a gym. and finally, sarah alba says it was nice to see you on tv teams. let's have more non veteran kernel lord and wilkerson prepared us presentation by which colon power justified the invasion of iraq to the international community. he describes it as the worst moment of his professional life as he moved from washington insider to tension. critic of the new con policies of successive us administration. he joins alex, the close of th

now from falls church, virginia is retired, colonel larry wilkerson former us secretary of state colin powell is chief of staff and the man involved in the decision to invade iraq retired. colonel, thanks so much for coming on. let's just start taking you back to the day you saw and witnessed the attacks on new york. i understand that the 1st reaction of the team there, the state department and elsewhere, and the administration may have been to, to resign for georgia was resigned. dick cheney to resign and realized that they hadn't protected the homeland. well, i think they were contemplating resigning. i think they were contemplating the fear that the american people would react adversely towards their ministration. after all, they had no political mandate. their political mandate was a supreme court decision. there was still being question all across the land, and indeed it still be in question today. fear and re was how they made the decisions they made in the aftermath. that's not a good environment in which to make national security decisions for fear, as i indicated was they will get ri

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figures from government, from philanthropy and from business including former secretary of state colin powell, current governor of maryland larry hogan and current justice of supreme court sonya sotomayor. we encourage you to join us in these important discussions. we look forward to seeing you there. i also want to encourage you to help support mount vernon and other public history sites over this difficult time. we're delighted to bring programming like this to you free every so often, but that does come at a cost, so if you are able and you have some means to do so, we would appreciate you throwing a few clams our way right now. you can find a way to do that by going to mt. vernon.org and click the donate button. let's talk about tonight's main topic. in 1815, john adams wrote to thomas jefferson, and he argued that the revolution was in the hearts and minds of the people in the 15 years before a drop of blood was spilled at lexington and concord and also argued the war for independence and the revolution were two different things. were they really? that's one of the things that we're goin

ambassador to the united states and to lawrence wilkerson, aide to the former secretary of state colin powellets his role in the war on terror. and how hope curdled into defeat. i reflect on how america's war squandered global good will and restored the taliban to power. plus -- >> i ran over the p.a.s, and i grabbed the mic,

figures from government, from philanthropy and from business including former secretary of state colin powell, current governor of maryland larry hogan and current associate justice of the supreme court sonia sotomayor. so please go to mountvernon.org, check us out there where you can register for this free event. we encourage you to join us in these important discussions and we look forward to seeing you there. i also want to encourage you to help support mount vernon and other public history site over this difficult time. we are delighted to bring programming like this to you free every so often but that does come with the cost so if you are able and as a means to do so we would appreciate you throwing a few clams are we right metric you can find a way to get by going to mountvernon.org and clicking that donate button. let's talk about two nights main topic. in a kings 15 as many of you might know, john adams wrote to thomas jefferson -- in 1850 -- he argued the revolution was in the hearts and minds of the people in the 15 years before a drop of blood was spilled on lexington and concord.

when alex interviewed cardinal lord and wilkerson, the former chief of staff to us 6 of state general colin powell and she had already clocked up over 725000 views on facebook alone in henderson says, knowledgeable, experienced, and deeply relevant. facts are not seen agrees. good interview, she says very informative. william says, this is the very best. yes. picky the rest of the media. what this open? thank you all the alex salmon shoe corner york says great insight into deacon's troubled past the future and the long duplex school dance. jim wallace says the forever wars will continue simply because the people who the power of those to manufacture weapons and ammunition, no more wars in an end to their profits. you see it says it's a refreshing tab, intelligent interviewer, asking intelligent and poignant questions. then actually listening to the system interviewee a civil john says thank you chips to scott, his son was one of the biggest mistakes the united states is made. and bolton says, the war is only just beginning. biden's incompetence just made the taliban the most well armed tennis hist

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colin powell. >> narrator: colin powell, a former general; chairman of the joint chiefs of staff; under bush, the first black secretary of statelk about that, "who is going to be top tomorrow, mother teresa or you?" you know? and he'd laugh. but he did. the american people trusted him. >> narrator: the president, relying on powell's formidable reputation, wanted him to make the case for war. >> and he made the decision in the middle of january that it was going to require military action. and he asked me to take the case up to the united nations. >> so that speech, why you? why do... >> i'm the secretary of state. who else would you send? you can't send the secretary of defense to the u.n. the u.n. ambassador, this is a little above that pay grade. and so, he selected me, and i think he thought i had credibility to deliver a speech and it would be believable. >> narrator: just over a week later, he arrived at the united nations. the world was watching. >> it was a major, major moment. powell was really showing the world,ou know, trying to convince us that there were wmd in iraq. (camera shutter clicking) >> he had remarkable c

guest: former secretary of state colin powell had a policy known as the pottery barn rule which was, in short, you break it, you own it. the biden administration has created this crisis and now it is time for the president to own the consequences of his actions. thank you, madam speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. for what purpose does the gentlelady from california seek recognition? >> madam speaker, i rise to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. arda: without objection, the gentlelady is recognized. >> thank you, madam speaker, i rise today to remember our 13 fallen service members who made the ultimate sacrifice to save the lives of americans and our allies in afghanistan. these brave men and women, including southern california marines, lance corporal dylan morella or lance corpsal nkoye and hunter lopez were young and many in their 20's and incredibly brave, valiantly putting their lives on the line for others. ms. kim: their valiant efforts and courage and heroism in the face of banker will never be forgotten. w

by then, colin powell, the secretary of state, coming back from his trip from peru. also condoleezza rice who's been at the white house all day long and inform him of all of this. defense secretary donald run fell. vice president dick cheney, who managed to stay in the white house. these are the kinds of days that you know in the back of your mind may occur when you become the president of the united states and the commander-in-chief, when you're on the campaign trail. the cold, hard reality, has been visited on this president. one of the greatest national security crises this country has faced in many, many years, within his first year in office. so, let's just watch for a moment and see if we can see the president as he gets off the helicopter. and then under very heavy guard, there is extraordinary security now at the white house. sharp shooters on the roof. people have been cleared out. our correspondents are operating from across the street. we'll see whether we can see him as he moves from marine one into the oval office. nick, as we expected earlier today, the

and he did ask me to run a test, colin are powell, the secretary of state, and don rumsfeld and, of courseision that we were going to make that policy statement despite the fact that this speech had a very different purpose. dana: how soon after you learned of the attacks did you realize that the bush presidency was completely different than what it had been just an hour before? >> it really dawned on me when i got to the bunker. we'd seen the -- i had known that the first plane had flown into the tower and then a second plane, and i had seen on tv that a plane had hit the pentagon. and i went to -- i was, basically, carried to the presidential management, the bunker underneath the white house, and i suddenly saw the vice president on the phone with the president. and the air force had asked should they shoot down any aircraft that wasn't responding properly. and the realization that the american president had just given an order to shoot down civilian aircraft if necessary because every plane had become a missile, a potential missile, that was when i knew that we were in uncharted territo

early years of the iraq war when you had the friction between donald rumsfeld and the state department. under colin powell panetta is a pretty interesting comment because you have the agreement we had with the taliban that they would not allow al qaeda into their country or any other organization. that was part of the agreement. now when you look at what you see now, you look with on the left side, you look at a map. you have iran, afghanistan, pakistan. talk about and isis caliphate. you have got a huge amount of territory that is now controlled by basically to meet a rogue state on the left with iran, afghanistan and supported by pakistan that has nuclear weapons. enormous potential for a huge terrorist state in the middle east that's bigger than we've ever seen before. i think we have to be aware of that. i want to close by saying we have the original agreement and the agreement with the taliban was they would not allow al qaeda, isis k or anybody to operate in the country once we signed an agreement. that agreement was not signed so there shouldn't have been any need for leaving the country until an a

all of us going up to this break as well as the man who is chief of staff the colin powell, george w bush's secretary of state, played by jeffrey wright in oliver stone's w. the is the biden presidency in terminal decline this administration, handling of the coven pandemic, the economy, and not least, afghanistan sees this president underwater, in the polls in a big way in the country today is just as divided as you're from. can this president things around join me every thursday on the alex simon show, and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport. business. i'm show business. i'll see you then. me the welcome back. i'm still here with the iconic director of such films as wall street w amplitude, all of a stone. given it to your buddy, i must also ask about the film you did so much work on it never came to pass. sy hersh has been on this show numerous times. will we ever get to see the my lai massacre film? is it we never going to see it. i wish we'd be able to make it. that was a loss of will on the part of the investors. and the producer, the producing company that you're not an artists. a

colin powell was going about our business. that message said the united states of america has not and decapitated step we couldn't talk. the president was getting to a safe location. we were in a bunker. the pictures were awful. you want your friends and your foes to know you were functioning step that was another very important decision and maybe later, i will talk about the ones that gives the phrase that will always be associate with bush, if you harbor a terrorist, you are, we will treat you as a terrorist. that's a decision that came later in the day. >> in a recent documentary this is describing a you conference with the president, i believe he was in nebraska at this point. president bush tactically came through the television screen. a couple of questions -- describe what you meant for that -- by that and also, i am a former speechwriter. you and he made a decision that he would address the nation. that night stuff he spoke for 4.5 minutes and here is the first sentence -- today are fellow citizens, or way of life and our very freedom came under attack i

colin powell was going about our business. that message said the united states of america has not and decapitated step we couldn't talk. the president was getting to a safe location. we were in a bunker. the pictures were awful. you want your friends and your foes to know you were functioning step that was another very important decision and maybe later, i will talk about the ones that gives the phrase that will always be associate with bush, if you harbor a terrorist, you are, we will treat you as a terrorist. that's a decision that came later in the day. >> in a recent documentary this is describing a you conference with the president, i believe he was in nebraska at this point. president bush tactically came through the television screen. a couple of questions -- describe what you meant for that -- by that and also, i am a former speechwriter. you and he made a decision that he would address the nation. that night stuff he spoke for 4.5 minutes and here is the first sentence -- today are fellow citizens, or way of life and our very freedom came under attack i

and he did ask me to run a test, colin are powell, the secretary of state, and don rumsfeld and, of courseision that we were going to make that policy statement despite the fact that this speech had a very different purpose. dana: how soon after you learned of the attacks did you realize that the bush presidency was completely different than what it had been just an hour before? >> it really dawned on me when i got to the bunker. we'd seen the -- i had known that the first plane had flown into the tower and then a second plane, and i had seen on tv that a plane had hit the pentagon. and i went to -- i was, basically, carried to the presidential management, the bunker underneath the white house, and i suddenly saw the vice president on the phone with the president. and the air force had asked should they shoot down any aircraft that wasn't responding properly. and the realization that the american president had just given an order to shoot down civilian aircraft if necessary because every plane had become a missile, a potential missile, that was when i knew that we were in uncharted territo

theeminist majority actuay consuld with the state department and with the white house before the invasion was announced. they were present when colin powelle announcement for the invasion. and the rean i call it a feminist war, the first feminist war, is because until then, u.s. feminists at least had function as a checkn the state. they were against war. they were against unjust invasions and interventions. but when this happened, you know, the large feminist organizations and prominent feminists including gloria steinem, supported the incursion into afghanistan saying this was established democracy, which ultimately would be good for women's rigs. and that is what they did. they essentially allied with the u.s. strategic interests in afghanistan and allowed for feminism to be used essentially as a cover story for what was a strategic intervention based on u.s. national interest. so the consequence, of coue, is what we see today, we heard our previous guest speak about, feminism has been delegitimized in afghanistan because it is associated with an occupying force. and i would say the recent afghan women setback 200 years is because of t