officials from the state department and u.s. agency for international development testify now about the trump administration's policy towards latin america. lawmakers asks x. the witnesses about migrant children and families. humanitarian aid to venezuela, human rights in cuba and trance national organized crime. ed royce of california chairs the house foreign affairs committee. new york democrat elliott aeng will -- engle is the minority. this is about 2 1/2 hours. >> we'll call this hearing to order. today we look at u.s. policy towards latin america and towards the caribbean. our relationships in the western hemisphere are forged by deep cultural and economic ties. we export a lot of goods to the caribbean, and that supports many u.s. jobs. across latin america, our trade ties are just as strong. but today as the region faces urgent challenges and tan -- transitions, the united states must be more engaged than ever. always the safety of serving america abroad is top for this committee. there is now a tax on the industry in ha

id and the state department and these are the tools that we have to address these issues. if you're talking about other issues such as tps, that is a decision that is taken by the department of homeland security. they have made that determination. >> i just think there should be better coordination. i sort of echo actually the gentleman from california that said those are issues for homeland security, sure. they're also issues pore foreign affairs and they're also issues for state. just quickly i'd like to echo the concerns in terms of the violence in anything rag wag, as well. people like father jose alberto has had his life threatened. he's been targeted because of his work through the jesuits and through education and i want to make sure people alike that that have been targeteded that that be known to everyone. with that, i'd like to yield 40 seconds to my colleague from california, miss torrez. thank you. >> we go to mr. ted poe. >> no, no. >> yield me 40 seconds. >> that's right. somebody was going to give you extra time. norma torres of california. >> thank you, mr.

questions because i really do acknowledge you and the service you have given our nation in the state departmenthe diplomacy and watching you, i know you have to answer some of these difficult questions, the problem is i think the president of the united states doesn't understand diplomacy and the value of the state department heard in fact i was looking at him today when he was in international organizations talking to nato, making all kinds of horrendous statements and separating us from our allies there. couldn't help but see the pain that the ambassador when she had to admit, this was right up down a prudent alley what was going on, and looking at general kelly as he was looking away and raking water and drinking water and drinking water as the present was making his statement. i said all that because my question do is going to be about the united states and the terms of the international american declaration of the rights and duties of man which obligates the states of the americas to protect the right to life, liberty and security for every human being and to give protection to families an

department of state, correct? it seems about half the room is focused primarily almost exclusively on separations at the border, is that correct? a lot of questions on that. so in the department of state do you all have oversight of hhs? do you have oversight of dhs? >> we do not. >> >> how about uscis? >> no. >> how about usbpc -- how about i.c.e.? >> we do not. >> so none of those are within your purview and you've gotten a lot of questions on that subject matter. it's amazing to me how well people talk off of talking points. the number of people under the age of five who we think are separated from their families is just over 100 and quite cand lid did i just over the preplanned talking points we've covered about 14% of their cases in this committee hearing today. that's amazing. but we've covered 0% on -- are the roughly 4,000 americans killed every year by unlicensed drivers who are here illegally. while we know about 13% of all highway fatalities are caused by people who are here illegally, we don't quantify

. >> state department and u.s. agency for international development officials testified on the trump administration's foreign policy towards latin america. topics included migrant children and families, humira humanitarian aid, transnational organized crime, and china and russia's influence in the region. this is two and a half hours. >> will call the searing to order. the day we look at u.s. policy toward latin america and the caribbean, our relationships in the western hemisphere are forged by deep cultural and economic ties. we export a lot of goods to the caribbean. that supports u.s. jobs across latin america our trade ties are strong. today, as the region faces challenges and transitions, the united states must be more engaged than ever. as always, the safety of americans serving abroad is a top priority for the committee. the unexplained attacks on embassy personnel in havana. and now in china are very disturbing. twenty-six americans have been medically evacuated from havana with serious symptoms including

that statement was from the united states president's state department. >> okay. but the united states president said that it was an incredible offer. and so, that's why i'm pointing out the difference and commending you. please take it. with regard to what else was said during that meeting, i know you have given some indication of what was discussed, let me just give a sense of how russia is characterizing that meeting and this is the problem with the private meeting like this. many of us voiced strong concerns about having a private meeting like this with no readout. officially. for what happened. and here's what happens when the private meeting like that is held. vladimir putin's meeting with donald trump was, quote, better than super, russia's top diplomat has said. the summit was fabulous. i think that was lavrov who also said. the remarks of russian news agency summed up the mood that mr. trump sided over their own intelligence agencies. here's how one paper in russia, trump hernandez failed to dominate putin. another said a quiet modest trump has paled in co

the nra is not the state department or the department of justice. iggest special interest group out there that's pro-gun. >> you know, stephanie, it's why we're in court orn this and why in fact state a.g.s are in multiple courts right now as we speak. seeking relief in the courts, asking for an order to stop this company from making available these downloadable files. it's what we're doing right now through the courts. that's where we need to be, i think we have seen time and time again the importance and the role of state a.g.s taking this president and the administration to court in order to get relief. here, it's a matter of national security and a matter of public safety. >> mara healey is the attorney general of massachusetts. thanks for joining us to talk about this. >> well, great to be with you. again, this is an end run around all the basic gun laws in our state and we think it's really important. >> we're going to keep giving it lots of attention. >>> when we come back, is president trump being dissed by the united states' biggest foes? up

department of state, correct? ngs about half the room is focused almost exclusively on separations at the border, is that correct? a lot of questions. and the department of state, do you have oversight of hhs? of dhs? >> we do not. >> how about u.s. cbp. >> no. >> how about ice? >> no. >> none of those are in your purview yet you have got a lot of questions. the number of people under the age of five separated from their families is just under 100, and we have covered about 14% of their cases in this committee hearing today. what we have covered 0% of -- pardon me while i go on a discourse -- are the roughly 4000 americans killed each year by unlicensed drivers here illegally. speaking, well we cannot quantify these numbers, we do not quantify fatalities specifically by immigration status. in the 10 states where you are licensed to drive regardless of your legal status, the number of highway deaths caused is closer to 14.5%. so i guess if we looked at the numbers and compared the numbers of the people under the age

to her credit, the state department, mike pompeo was involved. >> sarah sanders left open the possibility the person she speaks for, the president of the united states left it open. >> thank you very much. >>> much more breaking news coming up. we'll be right back. hi i'm joan lunden. today's senior living communities have never been better, with amazing amenities like movie theaters, exercise rooms and swimming pools, public cafes, bars and bistros even pet care services. and there's never been an easier way to get great advice. a place for mom is a free service that pairs you with a local advisor to help you sort through your options and find a perfect place. a place for mom. you know your family we know senior living. together we'll make the right choice. >>> before tuesday most people in the united states probably couldn't point out the small european country of montenegro on the map. said it could spark world war 3. the balance cnation is speaking. nick peyton walsh is there. how are folks reacting to the president's comments? >> reporter: speaking to the foreign minister here, he to

that statement was from the united states president's state department. >> okay. the united states president said that it was an incredible offer. so that's why i'm pointing out the difference in commending you. please take it. with respect to what else was said during that meeting, i know you have given some indication of what was discussed. let me just give a sense of how russia is characterizing that meeting. this is the problem with a private meeting like this. many of us voiced strong concerns about having a private meeting like this with no read-out officially for what happened. here's what happens when a private meeting like that is held. vladimir putin's meeting with trump was "better than super" russia's top diplomat has said. he said the meeting was fabulous. that was lavrov that said that. the remarks reported by russian news agencies summed up the mood that mr. trump sided with the kremlin over his own intelligence agencies, so they're reporting that as well. here's how one paper in russia characterized it. trump has failed to dominate putin. another ta

that statement was from the united states president's state department. >> okay. but the united states president said it was an incredible offer. and so that's why i'm pointing out the difference in commending you. please take it. with regard to what else was said during that meeting, i know you have given some indication of what was discussed. let me just give a sense of how russia is characterizing that meeting. and this is the problem with a private meeting like this. many of us voiced strong concerns about having a private meeting like this with no readout. and here's what happens when a private meeting like that is helped. donald trump's meeting with putin was better than super russia's top diplomat said. the meeting in helsinki is fabulous. the reports by the russian agency summed up the mood that mr. trump sided with the kremlin over his own intelligence agency. so they're reporting that as well. here's how it -- one paper in russia characterized it, trump failed to dominate putin. a quiet modest trump naeld comparison with putin. it's clear that putin outma

we at the state department are e undertaking several new initiatives to further the cost of religious freedom around the world. first come as the vice president announced we've created an international religious fund with other nations that will separate the work of religious freedom defenders to assist victims of religious persecuti persecution. second we've created new leadership programs to bring those working on the frontlines of these issues together, all different states from around the world to come to the united states. it's a project we will focus on providing religious pluralism protecting the rights of religious minorities. iif you're a champion of religious freedom comedy on the lookout for announcements coming soon. third, in just a couple of months the state department will host a celebrity workshop called bold line to support innovative public-private partnerships to promote and defend religious freedom around the world. the open calls for the proposal is now on challenge .gov. first, we no persecution and violence are not constrained by borders. we look forward to the

and the state department was very marginalized. the most important areas of foreign policy that were allowed to bureaucracy were foreign economic policy. so under treasury. most of the most consequential spying activity, in other words, agents of influence within the american government, came up to the u.s. treasury. the one thing to note about the marshall time is that truman reestablishes the primacy of the state department. and none of the people, to the best of my knowledge, who were architects of the marshall plan were in any way involved in such activity. as you know many of them have the reputation today of being the earliest cold warriors, people like george kennan and dean acheson who were infected conscientious objectors during the fdr administration. you raise a wonderful point though about mccarthyism which comes a few years later. and i do argue in the book that the atmosphere created in washington from the fall of 47 to spring a 48 when eight when the marshall legislation goes through, did help stimulate what you migh

they said. >> they did it in state-department-ese. that much to understand and interpret the diplo-speak that we're hearing from the state department. that tells you a lot. >> congressman, i just want to play this from fbi director wray tonight. watch this. >> there has also been the suggestion from putin that he would want to come interview americans. is that something that you would support? >> that's probably even lower on our list of investigative techniques. >> it doesn't seem like they're taking -- that he takes his own president seriously. but go on, congressman. >> look, director wray is a fine man. and i'll tell you what, and by the way, the fbi is part of the intelligence community which the president threw under the bus in helsinki. so i mean, it's clear that the president's own top advisers, his own top appointees, you know, again, are not on the same page as the president, at least the president's rhetoric, anyway. it's interesting, we have the president's rhetoric on the one hand, then we have the actions of the administ

did that and the trump state department upheld that. they suddenly change? >> we don't know and they haven't talk ed ab it. that's part oof why now more than 20 attorneys general around the country, the state level, state attorneys general are now suing the state department for essentially making this rule change without public comment, without explanation, which violates administrative procedures of how you change these rules. >> is there a sense the tooth paste is out of the tube. >> i don't believe it's a useful struggle to try to control the spread of these files at this point. they've already been download ld thousands of times of the website. it doesn't seem like this kind of control of the files is going to work. >> regulation has to be on guns that you print at home. >> we've seen some states ban so-called ghost guns. guns that are unregulated, that don't have serial numbers. >> pennsylvania. >> and california has taken steps. that's another avenue that lawmakers seem to be taking. kind of makes more sense if you are a gun contr

we believe that went through london and somehow went to the obama state department and then ended up justice department. so that's one track. the second track is christopher steel. what i on earth was christopher steel doing meeting with state department officials? why was the steel dossier that supposedly that the f.b.i. was trying to get their hands on, why was it also going through the state department? so a lot of people had their hands on the steel dossier including many people in the media who knew about the steel dossierel and this is really a collapse. what we're having to do here as the legislative branch of government, we're having to do the work that the media won't do, because there are very few in the media who will actually cover this story try to get to the bottom of it. that's part of what is taking so long.f typically, you would have a free and fair and transparent media trying to get to the truth, but in this case, we haven't had that. >>>> laura: so jonathan, is it weiner? wasn on your list? who was he? and i guess it was several months ago, he said he's being unfa

i'm also served for a while in the state department as assistant secretary of state for international organizations under president george w. bush where i had -- i wouldn't say the pleasure but the honor to deal with some of the issues of the united nations that kevin moley and others of the state department deal with. thank you for coming here today. we've been wrestling with this issue of what to do with human rights before the commission and the council if more years. when i was engaged with it on the commission and saw the same problems that she highlighted here today and i want to say i could not be happier with the decision she's made. the next part of our program here is to do a deep dive. t to go into some of the issues raised by ambassador haley's speech and what better opportunity could we have than to have two of the people that were involved in the state department with making the decision. wul would you come on up here to the panel. when i was assistant secretary and so he was on the other end of my strinstructions. apparently the united states has sold it. >> $8 million.

we believe that went through london and somehow went to the obama state department, and then ended upice department. so that is one track. the second track is christopher steele. what on earth was christopher steele doing meeting with state department officials and why was this b-17 dossier, at supposedly the fbi was trying to get their hands on, why was it also going to the state department? a lot of people have their hands on the steele dossier including many people in the media who knew about the steele dossier, really, a collapse. what we are having to do as the legislative branch of government, we are having to do the work of the media won't do. there are very few in the media who will actually cover the story try to get to the bottom of it and that is part of what is taking so long. typically, you would have a a e and fair and transparent media trying to get to the truth but in this case we haven't had that. >> laura: so jonathan -- is it weiner -- on your list. who is he and i guess it was several months ago, he said he is being unfairly targeted by you. >> that was quite the i

when i was -- right after i left the state department, he was at the state department when i was there in drl. he went over to the nsc, had become senior director for the national security council staff from 2005-2009 where he dealt with, where he was responsible for the whole portfolio of democracy, human rights and international organizations. and prior to that he was principal deputy assistant secretary of state in three bureaus, drl, inter-american affairs and also as a legal adviser. see, he is a longtime veteran of the state department, been there for many years. so we've got a lot of brain power here, a lot of resources, a lot of information, and i'm going to ask mike if you want to come up and say a few words to get started, then we'll have some q&a at the end. >> well, thank you, kim, for the nice introduction and what a great speech from ambassador haley. i thought i would follow on to that and explain a little bit, she made the very strong point that getting out of the human rights council does not mean getting out of the human rights business. and thought i would talk a lit

i am the executive vice president of the heritage served for ad i file in the state department as the assistant secretary of state for international organizations under president george w. bush where i had -- i would not say the pleasure but the honor to deal with some of the issues of the united nations that my friends at the state department do with. -- deal with. thank you for coming. as ambassador haley said, we have been wrestling with this issue of the human rights before the commission and now the council for many years. engaged with it, i saw the same problems she highlighted today. i personally could not be happier with the decision she has made. the next part of our program is to do a deed dive, to go into the issues and questions raised by ambassador haley and by the decision. what better opportunity that you have two people involved in the state department -- with making the decision. kevin and mike, could you come up to the panel? kevin molding is the assistant secretary of state for the bureau of international organizational affairs. prior to that position, he was a perm

. >>> speaking at a state department conference on religious freedom, secretary of state mike pompeo talked about initiatives to protect religious minorities around the world. he is joined by sam brownback, the ambassador at large for international freedom. this is 20 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. this is the earliest days president of trump has directed his administration to advance and defend the rights of religious freedom at home and abroad because religious freedom is a universal god-given right to which all people are entitled. there's also an essential building block for all free societies ensuring religious freedom around the world is a key prioritas akey priority in p administration's foreign policy and to that end we concluded the first-ever ministerial to advance religious freedom. the success of this event was truly unbelievable. the level of enthusiasm for the partner groups and other government spies so high that i've already committed to doing this again to holding the second ministerial a year from now. this week we were joined by more than 80 foreign delegati

yeah it's very possible look this is this started let's take the state department for example state department has come out and announced what president said after the meeting when he told the press that even consider turning over my pal former ambassador but you have a state department that's already been considerably got it all rex tillerson so another people left of it isn't that like wow so you have it in a very important agency when it comes to diplomacy and it really means that the conversation itself is compromised and how do we build bus institution at the same time you're trying to be dealt a good image and robust conversation it's really difficult and that's the challenge that lies ahead really interesting to get your point of view on this count greenberg of the center of national security we appreciate your time thank you thank you and the european union has expressed concern about a new israeli law that defines the country as the nation state of the jewish people it makes hebrew the sole official language downgrading out of it to having special status palestinians describe the law

-latin relations in the state department. jacobson left her post in may saying the strains and relations position untenable, and the ambassador is joining me now from washington. welcome to the program. >> thank you, christiane, nice to be with you. >> i know the polls had him raring and racing ahead. were you surprised at the extent of his landslide victory? >> i was surprised as large as it was over 50% but not that he won, he had been ahead in all the polls and mexicans, a huge number of them were fed up with traditional politicians and remember that one in five voters in this election in mexico were first time voters. >> so you have met with him, you've discussed with him and talked to him, what should the people of the united states, the people of mexico and latin america in fact know about him and what he plans to do? >> one of the things to know about him is he ran as the consummate outsider.& although he's a career politician as you noted. he was mayor of mexico city. the other thing is that the top issues on mexicans

brian it's torture program it told the ambassadors they cannot discuss it with anybody at the state department. it is inrs job to support our ambassadors to make sure the department reviews intelligence activities including covert actions. can you tell us consistent with the fact that this is an open session, how do you make sure that happens? >> thank you. it's a very important function is to ensure that our ambassadors understand their roles and oversight. they plan important role in concurring or non- concurring with these operations, i will take that job seriously and ensure they continue to provide that training and regular update to make sure they know what they need to in making these decisions based on risk. >> congratulations to both of you in your nominations. admiral, it's good to visit with you yesterday. as i told you then, the fact that you have come highly recommended and i know your work side-by-side with him for maybe 35 years and has a lot of significance to me. i appreciate the chance to visit yesterday. but, you talked about your long-term service in the military. you devel

so that statement was from the united states president state department. >> okay. the united states president said that it was an incredible offer and so that's why i pointed out the difference and commending you. please take it. with regard to what else was with regard to what else was said during that meeting, i know you've given some indication what was discussed. let me just give a sense of how russia is characterizing that meeting and this is the problem with a private meeting like this. many of us voiced strong concerns about having a private meeting like this with no readout officially for what happened and here's what happens when a private meeting like that is held. vladimir putin's meeting with donald trump was "better than super" russia's top diplomat has said. the leaders helsinki summit was fabulous i think lavrov said. it was summed up that mr. trump sided with the kremlin over their own intelligence agency, so they're reporting that as well. here's how one russia paper characterized it. trump has failed to dominate putin. another tabloid said a quiet,

i want to also commend the entire state department for executing an event, whose goal is assuring the sacred right of every man, woman, and child to worship as they please. i will now invite ambassador brownback for comments and to take a few questions. thank you. >> we're still wrapping up the ministeri ministerial. so many have asked to speak, that we're continuing to go through that. so those will be wrapping up shortly. but over 80 countries, a number of commitments to hold different events. a number of them want to hold regional events in their area or country. several of them expressing support to join the fund put forward. a number of them talking about particular statements of concern regarding the rohingya, what's taking place there. and the -- what we have categ y categorized as ethnic cleansing and more reports come out, ethnic cleansing of religious mirety. we started the week and are ending it at the holocaust museum, reminding people that if you don't deal with these issues, this is what it can end up being. we've had genocide victims here, christians in northern iraq, y

although that statement was from united states president's state department. >> okay. but the united states president said that it was an incredible offer, and so that's why i'm pointing out the difference in commending you. please take it. >>> with regard to what else was said during that meeting, i know you've given some indication of what was discussed. let me just give a sense of how russia is characterizing that meeting, and this is the problem with a private meeting like this. many of us voiced strong concerns about having a private meeting like this with no read-out officially for what happened, and here's what happens when a private meeting like that is held. vladimir putin's meeting with donald trump was, quote, better than super, russia's top diplomat said. it was fabulous. lavrov said that. the remarks reported by russian news agency summed up the mood that mr. trump sided with the kremlin over his own intelligence agency. so they are reporting that as well. here's how one paper in russia characterized it. trump has failed to dominate putin. another tabloid s

chair, that we receive that information from the state department. thank you. >> senator, i can tell you that we are committed to engaging china on this issue. we are committed to making sure that they work on this issue. as far as our posture on north korea, of course, as you know, the singapore summit was historic. a north korean leader has never met with a u.s. president, so we feel that we have made progress in at least having the conversation with north korea. >> i don't think the meeting in and of itself signifies progress. i think it is a first step, but it does nothing that follows on and china can use the ambiguity of the agreement to increase its trade on pressure on north korea to comply with whatever promises they made is reduced. so if you could report back to us, i would appreciate it. >> yes, senator. >> senator gardner. >> thank you, secretary singh, for being here. appreciated the opportunity to talk to you about north korea, asia issues overall. chance to speak with you about my legislation, the asia reassurance initiative act that

there's people in justice and the state department doing good work. but it has to be unified, it has be this all of government approach. not a beauty issue but a priority and a global effort. we made a lot of effort and reaching out to other countries and building alliances on this. that has to continue. it just can't medius versus the world. we need a close ally. >> we need to recruit other allies. >> we are not prepared, we are barely keeping up. you talk to those who are in big financial institutions, they shake a lot and the sweat and they don't sleep much because they are overwhelmed at the shared level. he used of criminals only to get in. now you nationstates trying to get in which makes the job incredibly difficult. we're all going to pay a price for that. without a concerted effort this is only going to get worse, and we know who the four data actors and sources occam from admission to perspective, north korea, iran russia and china. we really need of a whole of government approach to this. i talk to a lot of people cross the government today

when i was -- right after i left the state department, he was at the state department, i was there in drl. he went to the nsc to become senior director for the staff -- national security council staff from 2005-2009 where he was responsible for the whole portfolio of democracy human rights international organizations. prior to that, principal deputy assistant secretary of state in bureaus, as a matter of fact. drl, inter-american affairs, and as a legal advisor. he is a longtime veteran of the state department, been there for many years, so we have a lot of rain power or. -- brainpower here. we have a lot of resources and information. i will ask mike to say a few words to get us started and we will have q&a at the end. mike: -- q and a at the end. mike: thank you for the nice introduction, and what a great speech from ambassador haley. i thought i would follow that and explain a little bit. she made a very strong point that getting out of the human rights council does not mean getting out of the human rights business, and i thought i would talk about what the administration is doing o

any does the if state department play on advising the administration regarding zte? te areies imposed on z severe and our issues with them extend well beyond sanctions violations. any communications company in china is controlled by the chinese government, with either want to be or not. and allowing them to embed themselves in the commercial infrastructure in the united states poses a significant national security threat area and while we are out there imposing tariffs for national security on partner countries with whom we have national security arrangements, we are allowing a foreign telecommunications operator to stay in business with our partners, knowing the threat they pose to our national security. did the state department have any role in advising from a geopolitical perspective, focusing on china first, and what role did the state department play in the decision on zte. >> both of those are very important questions. the state department continues to play a role in advising the president on working with our allies to counter china. i previously indicated that

the state department of the united states ought to be in lead promoting religious freedom around the. not every country has the religious freedom we have in the united states. individuals are punished for their beliefs or absence of their beliefs. we ought to promote that around the world, the united states and the state department to be front and center talking about religious freedom. not other countries but i'm confident if we focus on this as part of american diplomacy we can make the religious freedom for individuals all across the world at least a little bit better. shannon: a pastor being held in turkey yesterday denied freedom as many are calling a sham trial continues. turkey is a nato ally. what can we do? >> enormous work by this administration to gain the release of the pastor and others held in turkey, americans and others who worked for the united states held in turkey today, we are working diligently on that case and every place in america. this is one example where religious freedom matters and we will have 80 delegations in the state department, 40 of my counterparts

the head of the state of permit is involved -- state department is involved in the process. when you have him flying off to pyongyang, it raises unrealistic expectations that every time there is a meeting with a secretary of state, there will be some announcement, results. diplomacy does not work that way, particularly only have a process that is this complex and time-consuming. i encourage the state department to think about how the obama administration pursued the iran talks. sherman leading the day-to-day negotiations and secretary kerry coming in one necessary when you needed the to makelitical impetus the political decisions or announcement. of making working growth. it is not clear if this is something the state department took in hand. when you look at the question of sanctions relief, these are different baskets that need to be coordinated and require specialized work. looking at the creation of working groups, a simple step that would be effective. the next is a mix of process and substance. it targets what mark was saying about the importance of writing down the def

and a former state department official discussed global security. the threat posed by russia and china. and president trump 's foreign-policy procedure about efforts to secure election systems. ... >> i don't think we could have timed this event better based on the monday through friday that we've just experienced. mike rogers was the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee until 2015. and earlier this his career was an fbi agent. he's now a national security commentator on cnn and the host of a popular show declassified, which explores the stories of american spies. chris painer also with us was the former coordinator for cyber issues at the state department where he was the nation's top cyber diplomat, serving under both president trump and president obama, before joining the state department, chris served in the obama white house as the senior director for cyber policy and the acting cyber coordinator of the national security council. thank you both for being here. >> thanks for having us. >> i would like to remind our audience in

state department gave a license to file online. this is an unconstitutional act in every respect. >> defense distributing vowed as of august 1, team, the age of downloadable guns formally begins. the reality is, shepard, a lot of the plans are already out there. if you knew where to look online, you can find them. the cost of a basic 3-d printer is a few hundred dollars for a basic one. in some cases, of course, that's cheaper than a gun. shepard, back to you. >> thanks, anita. i want to show you the pictures that we showed during that live shot. this is video of one of these plastic guns not operating as it's supposed to. they did a number of tests on them. some worked as described, they fire a bullet, but they do have one metal pin in them. this is a case during the testing repeatedly one of these kinds of guns exploded when the firing pin went off. that's not what's supposed to happen but that is a danger. let's bring in jeffery cramer, assistant u.s. attorney. managing director at the berkeley research group. what is your take

. >> secretary of state mike pompeo was on capitol hill last week to justify in the state department annual budget. he was also asked about north korea, the upcoming nato summit in brussels in the plan meeting between president trump and vladimir. the senate up a patient's subcommittee hearing is one hour and a half. >> the subcommittee will come to order. we are pleased to have the secretary of state, mr. pompeo with us. i know you're to leave at 430 and we have a hard stop and we will run to the train on time and have six minute rounds and i will give a d short opening same it. number one i'm pleased to your chosen by the president and i think you're the right person for the right time. you understand the world for what it is, a, database, and being a former ci director you understand that's not the presence confidence and you have my confidence and i appreciate you and your family. we will not pay you by the [inaudible] because i don't think we can afford it. let's talk about this account and get to the question. senator and i have been doing this for quite a while in foreign assi

on china first and what role did the state department play if any in the decision on zte? >> thank you, senator, for those -- both of those are very important questions. the state department has played and continues to play a role in advising the president on working with our allies to counter china. i previously indicated that in all of my travels, the senior leadership of the state department, whether it's the deputy secretary, secretary pompeo himself, who as you may know is on a tour of several countries right now, we have explicitly provided input to the white house and said we need to work with our allies specifically to counter china. we need their buy-in because the only way to have success against china is to isolate them. china needs to be clear that it is a threat to the global economic community and if our allies agree with us, then we can isolate china and force it to change its behavior. on your question regarding zte, the state department did play a role and we advocated the stiffest penalties possible against zte. >> mr. chairman, i'd just like to add, i th

a couple of hours later, the state department said, that's absurd, that would never happen. what you have was two messages, like two messages from the intel community and president trump, you had two messages from the state department and sarah sanders and 24 hours later sarah sanders cleaned it up and said, , donald trump does not agree, he won't do that. but the fact had a they were entertaining it in the white b housefing and that the state department knew quickly t say it was absurd, tells you the administration is not on the same page. robert: who's jim mattis in jim kelly? secretary of state pompeo. we have been quiet this week. wnathan: it's funny you say that. on the trip, as well, in brussels for the nato summit. when you talk to european officials, they will -- i'm sure margaret has had similar conversations -- theye h perfectly normal conversations with jim jim mattis like everything's normal, it's a normal administration and in many senses theyoi are normal things. trump has actually invested more military resources i europe than obama did so they're quite happy

there's people at justice and state department doing good work, but it has to be unified. it needs to be all of government approach, not a boutique issue but a priority. it needs to be a global effort. we made a lot of effort of reaching out to other countries and building alliances on this. that has to continue. it can't be just the u.s. versus the world. we need our close allies. we need to recruit other allies. >> we're not prepared -- we're barely keeping up. you talk to those who are in big financial institutions, you know, they shake a lot, and they sweat, and they don't sleep much because they are overwhelmed at the sheer level. so you used to have criminals only trying to get in, now you have nation states trying to get in which makes their job incredibly difficult. we're all going to pay a price for that. without a concerted effort, this is only going to get worse, and we know who the four bad actors in cyberspace are, from a nation state perspective, north korea, iran, russia, and china. and we really need to have a whole of government approach to this. i talked

the state department of the united states of america ought to be in the lead in promoting that religious around the world. shannon, not every country has the religious freedom we have in the united states, individuals are punished for their beliefs, or frankly, the absence of their beliefs. we ought to promote that around the world. i want the united states and our state department to be front and center, talking about religious freedom. not every country will ditch the place we want but i'm confident that if we focus on this as part of american diplomacy, we can make religious freedom for individuals all across the world at least a little bit better. >> shannon: we have a case of the american pastor, andrew brunson, being held in turkey. yesterday, denied freedom, as with many are calling a sham trial, continuing. turkey is a nato ally of ours. what can we do in that situation? >> secretary pompeo: there's been an enormous work done by this administration to gain the release of pastor brunson. we have others held in turkey, other americans -- others who work for the united states, held

third, in just a couple of months, the state department will host a three-day accelerator workshop to support a scale that promote and defend religious freedom around the world. the open calls for proposals is now live. we all know that persecution and violence aren't constrained by borders. we look forward to announcements .y several partner countries minutes, few months -- we will release the diplomatic plan of action. it says that we will work with others around the world to help those under attack for their beliefs and that we expect leaders around the world to make it their priority as well. the plan of action provides concrete ways the international community and governments can do more to protect vulnerable religious communities in their own countries. in closing, i would like to think the ambassador for their work on this event. what you all have done is remarkable and an incredibly important moment in america's support for religious freedom. i also want to commend the entire state department whose goal it is for every man, woman and child to worship as they please. there is t

. >> the state department says the president has offered to meet without conditions stands. >> the presidentnd the secretary have both said that. >> the trump administration will begin imposing additional sanctions in iran. restrictions the united states once lifted as part of the iran nuclear agreement. china, russia, britain, france and germany are trying to salvage the agreement without the u.s. the threat of additional u.s. sanctions has already forced european businesses to scrap investments in iran. iran's foreign minister is pressuring the europeans to ignore potential u.s. sanctions penalties and invest in iran anyway. >> europeans should decide whether their businessmen, banks and government or to pursue european interests or american interests, or in particular trump's interest. >> while the u.s. maintains economic pressure, the administration continues its assault on iran's leadership. >> they seem more concerned with riches than religion. >> last week secretary pompeii called the leaders hypocritical holy men that resemble a mafia more than a government who enrich themselves at t