that is, we will continue this topic with us today, deputy chairman of the state duma committee on ecologys and the environment. expert of the thematic platform onf ecology, coordinator of the ecocare project alexander kokon to his good morning. hello well, we saw in the plot one we extract the other we destroy. unfortunately, meanwhile, in the seventeenth year, we still have, uh, it means there was strategic security of the russian federation for a period of up to 25 years, but it does not work somehow to implement it, maybe they chose the wrong strategy when i hear yes, people who suffer from such an irresponsible attitude what does not work is a question on the right of application, a matter of agreement with local law enforcement agencies. the so-called corruption. that is, if if it is monitored, if the ecological legislation, then we have an example, kamchatka. i want to tell you right there. one in one example. here, right here, right here, take a direct copy of the example that was in the story today, that is, when the same permit was issued for gold mining next to spawning rivers,