coming into state governments. that relief fund says leasts $150 billion, at $1 billion for every state, but you can only spend it on new programs. states that have been fiscally conservative might say thank you for the $1 billion or more -- or in the case of north carolina, $4 billion -- but it would be better for us to cover lost revenue that should be coming into our state, rather than trying to find a new way to spend money. if we have more flexibility, we can cover our cost and not have to come back to washington for even more money. as you mentioned, with that huge suspected and plan for shortfall across state governments, there will be some federal role. one thing that will make it easier is if they give the states more flexibility on the money they have already decided to send. congress,crats in according to our wall street journal story, democrats in congress are looking for additional money for states and localities in the next relief package. is that a good idea? guest: depending on how it is done. the de

private companies, local government, states, federal government. i need more, i need more, i need more. it's just a complicated, chaotic -- it is what ventilators was, probably even worse. now, can the federal government do this? no. can the state government do it? no. can anyone do it? no, but you have to figure out how to do it the best you can. how do you get the supply chain up, and that has to happen with the federal government. >> [indiscernible] do you anticipate closing down more state parks? gov. cuomo: i don't know why the park was closed down. does anybody know? >> the parks department evaluated the situation and decided to air on the side of caution, so they have temporarily close the park. our goal is to leave the state parks open, because as the governor said, we do want green space where people can go in get fresh air and exercise while they are able to social distance, but for the short term, it is closed. >> [indiscernible] gov. cuomo: we can go back and do a retrospective sometime when this is over. as i said, i don't like to do m

we need 500 billion dollars for the states so we can do this reopening. the federal government yesterday sent 1.5 million cloth masks to new york state. i want to thank them for that. these are cloth masks that we can distribute to people to help implement our policy, where if you are in public, you have to wear a mask. it is not a surgical mask, it is a cloth mask manufactured by the hanes corporation, i believe. but we are asking people to wear masks. this is going to be very helpful because we will have additional masks to distribute to the public. last point, personal opinion, not a fact, just my opinion, you can throw it in the garbage -- the emotion in this country is as high as i can recall. people are frustrated. we are anxious, scared, angry, we have never been through this before. and on every level, this is a terrible experience. it is disorienting. it threatens you to your core. it makes you reflect on your whole life. it really has -- it is mentally very difficult, emotionally difficult, economically. it is disastrous. the market goes down, your retirement funds go

they also have to help state governments and local governments, which have not been supported in the previous legislation. everyone said it's up to the states to come up with the reopening plan. it's up to the governors. fine. that's true and right and legal. the governors and the states have to have resources. yes, you have to have small businesses and help the airlines and the private sector interests as well as citizens, but if you don't help the state government and the local government, how are we supposed to have the finances to reopen? and if you don't give state and local governments support, you know, we're the ones who support the schools, we support the plit police, we support the fire, we support the hospital workers, we support the transit workers, so if you starve state and local government, all it means is we have to turn around and reduce funding to the people who we are funding. if we don't get federal assistance, you're looking at education costs of close to 50% in the state of new york where school districts would only get half of the aid they got from the state las

it did not fund state governments, which to me, is just a mistake, frankly. fund small businesses, the airlines but not police? fire? health care workers? teachers? schools? you cut the aid to schools in the state? you know the state governments are broke, to use it very bluntly, and you know the state governments are now responsible for reopening and the governors are going to do the reopening? and they have no funds to do it. we talked about that. the president said he understood the issue and he would work hard to get funding for the states in the next piece of legislation that passes and we hope there is another. i also told the president, from my parochial point of view, we had a conversation with secretary mnuchin in the president that -- and the president that there is a local match for fema funding when fema does something, the local government should match that funding 25%. i said to the president, there is no way new york can pay that match because we don't have the funding, period. it is disproportionate to new york. we have had such a much larger n

the federal government has not funded states to date. the national government's bipartisan, headed by a chairman, governor hogan, republican, i am the vice chairman, we said with one voice , you want the governor to do the job, we need to provide funding for state governments. there is no another piece of legislation talking about passing in washington. and again, it doesn't have state and local governments in it. but if this week, we are going to do a state forecast, and if they exclude state government again, our state forecast will project, without any federal funds, you cannot spend what you don't have if you would allocate the shortfall relatively on a flat basis across need, you would be cutting schools 20%, local governments 20%, and hospitals 20%, and this is the worst time to do this. now, federal government a set from day one, don't worry, we will provide funding to the states. yes. don't worry, but i am worried because i have heard this over and over and over again. and my job is very simple. i have one agenda, and one purpose.

government would become a consolidated entity that would take away all powers from the states. doison and hamilton said you not have to worry the federal government is one of enumerated powers. look at congress. it has the power to regulate interstate commerce, or to run a the office, war to suspend rights to -- the rights to allow people to challenge the constitution but it does not have a general power to summon policemilitary and run a state to have standing armies. all of those powers are denied to congress. only the president has enumerated powers. , don't these reasons worry, antifederalists that the government will become of one of the consolidated powers, says madison, we are a country of dual sovereignty. the federal government a sovereign within its sphere and the states are sovereign within their sphere. the ultimate sovereignty devolves not on the state or federal governments, but in we the people. that is the centralized idea of the constitution. who has a sovereign authority? we the people. it into the some of federal government, parsing it out to the judiciary and

they also have to help state governments and local governments, which have not been supported in the previous legislation. everyone is saying, well, it is up to the states to come up with a reopening plan, it's up to the governors, it's up to the governors. fine. that is true, and right, and legal. but the governors in the states have to have resources. and yes, you have to help small businesses, you have to help the airlines, you have to help all of these private sector interests as well as citizens. but if you don't help the state government and local government, then how are we supposed to have the finances to reopen? and if you don't give state and local government support, we are the ones who support the schools, we support the police, we support the fire, we support the hospital workers, we support the transit workers. so if you starve state and local government, all that means is we have to turn around and reduce funding to the people who we are funding. if we don't get federal assistance, you are looking at education cuts of close to 50% in the state of new york. where school

the federal government did not form the states. that cededolonies artain responsibility to federal government. all other power remains with the states. it is basic to our constitution. hamilton, who come in many ways, was reppo of this just -- representative of this discussion of the balance of power, said state governments possess inherent advantages which will give them influence and ascendancy over the national government and will preclude the possibility of federal encroachments on the states. that their liberties, indeed, can be subverted by the federal head, is repugnant to every rule of political calculation. strongly wind, but that was the premise. that was language, but the premise there are laws and there are facts even in this wild palooka environment. what do we do? we do what we do. we are new york tough, but tough is more complex than many people think it is. within that were tough is smart and united and disciplined and loving. inconsistent, to be tough and to be loving. a personal point, not necessarily a factual poi

state government and our health care system is stretched to the max right now. this is a vital lifeline to ensure that our health care system, government, residents have the lifeline they need to get through this crisis. that we have resources for frontline medical personnel, to make sure that people have the money to pay a mortgage and put food on the table. it is a vital lifeline for our .mall businesses they need help and they need it now. this bill is vital in that effort to help us all get through this. this truly is a bipartisan endeavor. we are going to come out stronger on the others. >> congresswoman linda sanchez here. just arrived at the capital, getting ready to vote for the cares act, the third in a series of bills we've passed to help american families and small businesses deal with the economic shock of the coronavirus outbreak and help our first line responders get the equipment they desperately need. in just a few minutes, we will vote on this bill and hopefully send a lot of help your way to increase unemployment benefits, grants to small busin

the states emergency powers now govern in this emergency. blame me. blame me. somebody's complaining about a beach, somebody's complaining about whatever, businesses open, schools open, blame me. it's true. it's right. it's the state law. and i don't have any issue with that. so blame me. also, as we are planning the reopening, let's set the bar a little higher. let's all start to think about this now. what did we learn during this? personally, what did we learn. socially, what did we learn? collectively, what did we learn? and how do we incorporate that into our reopening? how do we have a better health care system when we reopen? how do we have a better transportation system, better telecommuting, a smarter telemedicine program? better technology and education? how do we have more social equity? you can see the disparate effect of this disease and how it reinforced the disparity in the inequity in society. how do we remedy that? more cohesive as a community for having gone through this? right? it is not just reopen. it is not just build it back. it is advanced

they will have everyone back in the senate, and clearly before we provide assistance to state and local government and make sure that they have no revenue losses. and make certain that if we provide additional assistance for state and local governments it's only for coronavirus related and they aren't taking advantage of this pandemic, solving problems with themselves and bad decisions in the past. do you see the senate coming back to work on the 4th of may? >> that's the current plan. >> bill: so how do you see or what to forecast what could be in the next bill, or the next tranche of hundreds of billions of dollars? >> of the first thing is to decide whether there needs to be another tranche. the ultimate solution to this is to get the economy back up and running. for example, is already doing it to mix up the directions, and the solution to the hospital problem is elective surgery which is the only place they are making any money, that's a state decision. so all of us will be encouraging our states to begin to move in the direction of getting back to normal, bearing in mind of the advice of dr.

state's response. i have worked with local governments across the state. sometimes it is less coordinated than we would like. happens when you're dealing with a lot of local governments. we have to work with new jersey, connecticut. optimum, we come up with one plan for all three states. that would be great. if we cannot come up with the exact same plan, similar plans because we have a tri-state workforce. you have people who live in westchester and work in connecticut. you have people who live in new york city and work in new jersey. this all works as one or it does not work. transportation works with economic development, housing, schools or it does not work. you cannot have one gear spinning if the other gears are not spinning. you cannot have new york city suffolk,out nassau, westchester, jersey and connecticut. in new of the workforce york city comes from outside of new york city or leaves new york city to go work in that area. it has to work for the whole region or does not work. >> howdy will you respond -- how will you respond to localities who say

rationale for it is for the first time in the 240 year history of the country of our severalthe government, state and local, made decisions because of public health that we and just shut in, the economy down basically, and when the government does that, the government has a responsibility to get the economy going again. so, i think this $351 billion previous $350he billion that we thought was going to be enough to get small business started. it just did not turn out to be enough. cnn is tweeting out about the minority leader's interview $150g, schumer signaled billion for state and local governments won't be in a deal. "we will fight that very strongly." he said there will be ability for state and locals to use existing money to make up for lost revenue. i believe we have a deal. are you in support for state and local governments and another economic aid bill? guest: i think there will be money. the amount and how it is distributed is in dispute. i am just going to say, it is almost a foregone conclusion because the federal government shut down business, so income tax and sales tax that supports

i don't believe they want the funds, state and local governments. ot too fond the state and local governments is incredibly shortsighted. they want to fund a small business, fund the airlines and i understand that but state and local governments funds police and fire and teachers and schools. how do you not fund police and fire and teachers and schools in the midst of this crisis? yes, airlines are important. yes, small business is important so our police and fire and healthcare workers. they are the front-line workers. when you don't fund the state then the state can't fund those services and there is no sense to me. also in makes no sense that the entire nation is dependent on what the governors do to reopen. we have established that but it is up to this governor and up to this governor but then you will not fund the state government? do think i will do it alone? how will this work? then to suggest that we are concerned about the economy, states should declare bankruptcy. that's how you will bring this national economy back? by states to client and

because i believe they don't want to fund state and local governments. and going from small business to the airline and i understand that state and local government funds police and fire and teachers and schools. how do you not fund police and fire and teachers and schools in the midst of this crisis? yes small business and airlines are important. so our police and fire and government workers or the front-line workers. if you can't from the state and you can't find the services. so the entire nation is dependent on the governor's. but then you don't fund the state government? you think i will do it alone? how do you think this will work? and talk about the economy the states should declare bankruptcy that's you bring the economy back by states declaring bankruptcy? do you want to see the market fall through the seller let new york state declare bankruptcy what michigan declare bankruptcy let california declare bankruptcy. you will see a collapse of the national economy. so just don't. when senator mcconnell said this is a blue state bailout what he is say

the federal government is right. the states should take the lead, yes. partnership, federal government, you have to help us with the supply list. after you do the testing, states have a second big task, put together an army of tracers who then trace each person who tested positive. who did they contact? and then isolate those people. reopeningill make decisions on a regional basis. region'sthat circumstances about the covid virus. just like some states will --pen you for other states before other states, it is true across the state. north country has a totally different situation than new york city. central new york has a different situation. we operate as one state but we also have to understand you want to get this economy open as soon as possible. if the situation is radically different in one part of the state than the other part of the state, we take that into consideration. applies togic that the country applies to some states, the state, where you have those varieties across the state. we need to take that into consideration. the way we have been w

states' rights issue. no one is standing up saying the federal government is trampling my rights. i have said that on other occasions. but no governor, democrat or republican, is saying that here. every state is saying the same thing. i need help, i need assistance. so i don't consider this a situation where the federal government is interfering with the state's rights. this is a situation that is, by definition, a national disaster emergency situation, where the states need and welcome the federal assistance. the only operational model that i see that could potentially work here at this stage, where we are today with the realities we are facing, where no state can get the supplies they need, no state can get the ppe they need. no state can get the ventilators they need, the market has literally collapsed. the only operational model that i see is you have curves, you -- we have been talking about our curve -- you have curves in different parts of the country. those curves occur at different times. it depends on when the outbreak started in that region. how quickly it spread. so you

private companies, local governments, states, federal government. i need more, i need more, i need more. so, you have this whole, it's just a complicated, chaotic. it is what ventilators was, probably even worse. now, can the federal government do this? can the state government do it? no. can anyone do it? no. but we have to do the best we can to try to figure out, how do you get the supply chain up? where do the chemicals come from? what countries do they come from? and that has to happen with the federal government. >> governor -- >> what would be -- >> i'm anderson cooper. you've been watching new york's governor, andrew cuomo, as he gives his daily briefing on how the pandemic's impacting new york, the state. let me go straight to cnn senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. also, drew griffin, senior investigative correspondent. the governor spent a good deal of the news conference on the fact that the state cannot do large-scale testing, the kind that's going to be needed, and also tracing. and he said they need federal help. >> reporter:

it is important that whatever legislation they pass helps state and local governments. when you deprive a state you are actually achieving is that that state government has to turn around and not fund the programs that were dependent on that state government. we fund education. we fund health care. i spoke to speaker pelosi today. she is working on the program for the next piece of legislation. she understands fully, the need of state government. she understands fully the need of local government. she understands my position on how new york was shortchanged in the past bill. and, she said she is going to do everything she can do to help new york. i have worked with the speaker many times. i have known her for 30 years. i believe her. and her credibility and her competence is unparalleled, in my opinion. i will be working with the speaker and congressional delegation going forward. depending on how much federal assistance we get, we will have the calibration going forward. coronavirus response in general. there is a lot of conversation about how we should respond to this,

a public rally in brasilia sunday and criticised coronavirus stopped on measures imposed by state governments brazil has the highest number of infections and less in america but also are has downplayed the threat and urged and reopening of the economy. u.s. oil prices have seen their biggest drop in more than 2 decades they fell by as much as 20 percent during trading on asian markets just last week the world's biggest oil producers came to an agreement to slash oil output but that hasn't solved the industry's problems. it's exactly a decade since the deepwater horizon oil spill brought catastrophe to seize off the united states now a very different challenge has washed up on u.s.

you should know the united states government is working diligently to figure this out. would be the chinese government to open up. they said they want to cooperate, one of the best ways is to let the world in, let the scientists know about this talk came to be. >> shannon: it's not clear that we'll ever get that information from china. this information seems to be using carrots and sticks, some public criticism by the president. what are the odds we will get any cooperation from china? do you go i don't think until we get through this crisis that we are in currently. there is a lot of, there still a lot of ppe, different things we

-- governments, the state government and national government, and i don't think we will be ab to getk to the kind of lockdown, if you will, that we have had to date. so we will be struggling along. i don't want another surge. laura: where in the world has where can we learn from them? >> south korea, gmany. lots of testing, case finding and then contact tracing. finding people and testing them and puttinghem in a sort of isolation or quarantine for a period of time, all very well coordinated throughout the entire country doing the same thing. i think those are the examples that we can look to. laura: so many people in america want to know, when is life goi back to normal? not until there is a vaccine? >> there is no back to normal. it will be a new normal. i think we will see much more mask wearing during influenza and now covid seasons. there may be such. i think there will be elements of social disncing. i think we will not travel so much for business reasons. we will have virtual business meetings more and more. we are moving into a new normal. but you ar right. if we had a vaccin

they also have to help state governments and local governments which have not been supported in the previousislation. everyone is saying, well, it's up to the states to come up with a reopening plan, it's up to the governors, fine, and that's true and right and legal, but the governors in the states have to have resources and, yes, you have to help small businesses, you to help the airlines and all the private-sector interests as well as citizens, but if you don't help the state government and local government, then how are we supposed to have the finances to reopen and if you don't give state and local government support, you know, we are the ones who support the schools, we support the police, we support the fire, we support the hospital workers, we support the transit workers, so if you starve state and local government, all that means is we have to turn around and reduce funding to the people who we are funding. if we don't get federal assistance, you're looking at education cuts, close to 50% in the state of new york where school districts would only get half of the aid they got from th

a lot of local officials saying quite simply it's the job of state governments to control law and order the decisions made to keep people away from their workplace. the president implying that he could override any decisions made locally to continue to extend those orders which he feels they should be ended a bit earlier. he has not said categorically that he is going to do that, he says he still talking and negotiating with state governments, but there's that implied threats that he could overrule. when you look at the damage to the us economy, the global economy because of this covid—i9 pandemic it's hard to forget that this is an election year. yes, and before this happened, before any of us had heard of coronavirus and actually after that time well into january the president talking about was how of the economy was doing, the markets were doing well and most americans had a job, how things have changed since then and these are the very issues that usually decide elections. although it may be sometimes difficult to point the finger at him because he so politically motivated that he's

he conceives of liberty as existing in opposition to state governance, opposition to state governance of social life. and with this, he constructs a discernible discernibly modern rights bearing individual. it's man against the state. and tied to that is a new conception of the judicial role. the judicial role, henceforth, will be protecting private, presocial rights against legislative invasion. now this is actually new. bradley is doing transformative work. but we have trouble seeing the newness. we have trouble seeing the transformative work. that's a vital dimension of his slaughterhouse dissent and it hasn't been seen before. and so bradley's dissent needs a new look. because what he's doing is nothing less than reorganizing the logic of public law. he's reconceptualizing liberty and governance. now there are two types of obstacles to seeing this transformative work, to seeing bradley's world making. myths about the 19th century. there's the myth of liberalism, the idea that the united states from the founding, that liberty was always conceived as private, presocial rights in opp

he didn't give the state government -- the state governments got cut out.as it was political pork barreling. especially on the senate side. they'd give every state that has a senator, winds up with a big chunk of money, whether it has to do with covid or not and proportionality or not and they funded entities in the state, hospitals, this entity, this entity, but they didn't give any money to the state government, so then i had to cut all sorts of funds and i don't have any money to implement any of the things we're talking about. so, look, it's not -- you don't pick up a lot of political chits giving money to a state government. the politicians don't want to do it. but that's the responsible thing to do and i've made that point abundantly clear, i think, to my delegation. >> his criticism is you asked for too much. cuomo is always on the phone, give me, give me, give me. he didn't need it. didn't need the hospital ship, didn't need the ventilators. didn't need the beds. we gave it to him, anyway, because i'm a nice guy. true? >> i don't think he said exact

state's rights issue. no one is standing up saying the federal government is tramabling my rights. i've said that on other occasions. but no governor, democratic or republican, is saying that here. every state is saying the same thing. i need help, i need assistance. so i don't consider this a situation where the federal government is interfering a state's rights. this is a situation that is a, by definition, a national disaster emergency situation where the states need and welcome the federal assistance. i was in the federal government as you know. i worked on scores of federal emergencies. the only operational model that i see that could potentially work here at this stage where we are today with the realities we're facing where no state can get the supplies they need. no state can get the ppe they need. no state can get the ventilators they need. the market has literally collapsed. the only operational model that i see is you have curves -- we've been talking about our curve. you have curves in different parts of the country, and those curves occur at different times. it depends

state's response. i work with local governments across the state. sometimes it is less coordinated than we would like, but that happens when you're dealing with a lot of local governments. but we will work with new jersey, connecticut. octomom -- we come up -- optimum, we come up with one plan for all three states. if we cannot come up with the exact same plan, similar plans. we have a tri-state workforce, right? you have people who live in westchester who work in connecticut. you have people living in connecticut who work in new york city. this all works as one or does not work. transportation works with economic development, with housing, with schools, or it does not work. you cannot have one year -- gear spinning if the other gears are not spending. that does not work. you cannot have new york city work without nassau, suffolk, westchester, jersey, and connecticut. about a third of the workforce in new york city comes from outside of new york city or leaves newer city to go to work in that area. it has got to work for the whole region or it does n

states. what percentage of it was private and what percentage was government? from my understanding, it was gold-backed, so you couldn't print money like today's central banks. so -- and do you think the bank of the united states led to these central banks? >> okay. so, a couple questions there. did the bank of the united states lead to the fed? >> yes. >> kin day kinda sorta. there's a huge gap between the first bank and the second bank. because we fought the second war for independence and then we discovered, oh, it would be nice to have a central bank. but then there's many decades that pass after after the second bank shuts down in 1836, and by the time we get the federal reserve fired up just before the outbreak of world war i. so -- and, you know, the founders of the fed certainly knew about the first and second banks of the united states and looked to them, but it was a somewhat, you know, different model that they came up with. so, i'd say there are some there, but it's hardly a direct and obvious lineage. and the other question was about the backing of

state government has a rush. federal government has a roller, i have a brush. let the federal government do what they can. it requires a brush, let the state government do it. the big question on testing is that national manufacturer supplier chains and getting it up to scale. i will hand in my 300 labs. my 300 labs are saying i can't get the labs from the national manufactures. nobody designed this before. it is nobody's fault. nobody is to blame. tl w the way the testing world works was the national manufactures made their machine. the andrew cuomo testing machine. i sold my machines to private labs and hospitals. my machine only operates if you have an an drew cuomo testing kit. you have to buy from me. now you call up and say i want to buy a thousand kits. normally you would only buy 100. i know but now i want a thousand. i can't get you a thousand. even though you have the machines, i have such an increase demand, i can't produce it in time. to unravel it the chain issues, that's the best way the federal government can help. >> i am a little confused. are

this money, the rationale is for the first time in the 240 year history of the nation, theur government, state and local, made decisions because of public inlth that we had to shelter and shut the economy down. and when the government does that, the government has the responsibility to get the economy going again. $351 billionis makes up for the previous $350 billion that we thought was going to be enough to get small businesses started. but it did not turn out to be enough. host: it was tweeted by cnn about the minority leader's, saying that schumer signals that $150 billion for state and local governments will not be in a deal. we will fight that on covid four very strongly he says, there will be an ability for state and local to use existing money to make up for lost revenue. are you in support of money for state and local governments and another economic aid bill? >> -- guest: i think there will be money, the amount and how it is distributed will be in dispute. i will say it's nearly a foregone conclusion because the federal government shut down business, so income tax and sales tax that s

about protests of those state governments.hen a state government comes in and pushes them to try to take down those posts, that does trigger some first amendment concerns from my perspective. emily: the fcc has issued a directive to various telecom operators to remove components made by huawei. the u.s. government has alleged that huawei could be spying for the chinese government. there is little evidence that this is true. have you seen some evidence that we haven't seen? do you believe this is in fact happening? and what is the proof? >> i have seen information that you haven't seen. on our decision where we prohibited subsidized equipment network,g into the we put public information into our documents and had classified information. 150 been in montana, where intercontinental ballistic missiles are spread across hundreds of miles of big sky country. there are so towers throughout that missile field running on huawei gear. when you look at the performance characteristics, i think it gives you reason to have some concern. the

states. i would say federal government mew ta mutate that piece. don't replicate the 50-state pandamonium. let fema do the testing. fema should have done all the purchasing of the medical equipment and they should have allocated it. why am i competing for private capacities and testing machines are illinois and california. i want to get out of the ebay competition business for vital medical equipment and now vital testing. i would say the president, you take it. god bless you. you have different bids and different promises from companies to different governments all across the country. like i thought 17,000 ventilators and i didn't ge get -- we only got about 32,500. s the same thing is going to happen with the testing. >> the city can get 50,000. >> well, they're told that from a company. do i believe we are going to see those numbers actually produced? no. because i think the same thing is going to happen that we just went through for the past month. whether those companies are going to get over subscribed and they're going to bid up the price and it is going to go to the highest bidder.

we need $500 billion for the state so we can do this reopening. the federal governmentesterday sent 1.5 million cloth masks to new york state and i want to thank them for that. these are cloth masks we can distribute to people to help implement our policy where if you're in public you have to wear a mask, it's not a surgical mask, it's a cloth mask manufactured by the hanes corporation, i believe. but we're asking people to wear masks and this is going to be very helpful because we're going to have additional masks to distribute to the public. last point, personal opinion is not a fact. that's just my opinion. you can throw it in the garbage. the emotion in this country is as high as i can recall. people are frustrated. we're anxious, we're scared, we're angry. we've never been through this before and on every level this is a terrible experience. it's disorienting, it threatens you to your core. it makes you reflect on your whole life and it really has-- its mentally they difficult, it's emotionally difficult, economically it's disastrous. the market goes down, your ret

we agreed that a state government, this state government should be responsible for managing the actual tests in their own laboratories. we have about 300 laboratories in the state of new york. we regulate those laboratories. it's up to a state to determine how many tests, where those tests should be done, new york city versus buffalo versus long island, et cetera. the staff to do those tests, how often you do the tests. those should all be state decisions and state responsibilities. the antibody test, which is one of the tests, how do you use those, when. that should all be up to the states. the tracing function, that is, the function after testing that actually praises people wtraces that come into contact with it. that's all the state's responsibility. the problem with testing and bringing tests up to scale has been the national manufacturers of the equipment who make the testing kits that they have to send to the state labs. so the state labs can actually perform them. those are done by national manufacturers. those national manufacturers say they have a problem with the supply chai

state's rights issue. no one is standing up saying the federal government is trampling my rights. i've said that on other occasions, but no governor, democrat or republican, is saying that here. every state is saying the same thing. i need help, i need assistance. so i don't consider this a situation where the federal government is interfering with the state's rights. this is a situation that is a, by definition, a national disaster emergency situation where the states need and welcome the federal assistance. i've done -- i was in the federal government, as you know. i worked on scores of federal emergencies. the only operational model that i see that could potentially work here at this stage where we are today with the realities we're facing, where no state can get the supplies they need. no state can get the ppe they need, no state can get the ventilators they need. the market has literally collapsed. the only operational model that i see is you have curves -- we've been talking about our curve -- you have curves in different parts of the country. and those curves occur at differ

they're still trying to get state and local government furndifurnd i -- funding into this package, it's just not there yet. they differ how they want to mane doled out. when the united states congress is out of the town and you need basically unanimous support in the united states senate to be able to move forward, you try to take those items off the table, at least that's been the premise of the administration. when you say we need 500 bill$5 billion on a bipartisan basis, when you have mayors saying we have budget shortfalls right now. the government knows everybody needs money. the question is how much, when will they get it and how will that money be delivered? that's the biggest crux of the disagreements right now, that's where they've tried to shift it out of this package and into the next one. >> sorry, phil, i have to go to governor andrew cuomo starting his briefing. >> that was in total and california. these are the hospitalization numbers for today. a tick down from yesterday but a slight tick statistically relevant. the question for us is are we past the apex. we have had a

through the verizon apps and verizon.com. ♪ >> melissa: a new budget crisis looming for state and local governmentsus shutdowns push the biggest source of revenue for most states, sales taxes, off a cliff. william la jeunesse is live in los angeles with the story. >> melissa, it's everything. sales, income, corporate, tourist access, capital gains. essentially you have zero money coming into the cities and states for two months now, which means, of course, pay cuts and layoffs. police, fire, parks, roads, schools. that's what we see coming. let's start with some of the hardest hit cities, columbus and cincinnati, cleveland, they get more than 67% of their presence from income taxes. tulsa, denver, lincoln, nebraska, they get half the revenues from sale taxes. others also deemed vulnerable are birmingham, lexington, kansas city, because of their tax structure. very similar. 600 cities tell the u.s. conference on mayors that they will lay off workers. 1100 say they will cut pay and public services. >> we are going to pick up your trash, your lights, your water, will be there. we will make sure you ar