came out, had not talked about this in state legislatures, but after that interview, he tweeted this. as most people know, and for those who would like to know, i am strongly pro-life with the three exceptions, rape, incest and protecting the life of the mother. the same position taken biron ald reagan. we have come very far in the

alabama is the latest state legislature to push stricter abortion bills. last week georgia became the sixth state to pass a bill banning abortion after six weeks, when a heartbeat can be detected. with a solid conservative majority on the supreme court, many pro abortion rights advocates believe these new bills could one day be used to overturn roe v. wade. when you look at this clinic, do you worry that that clinic may not be here in a couple of years? >> no. we've been here 40 years, and we'll have another 40 years. you can't pass unconstitutional legislation to try to shut us

today albany, new york, the state legislature in the state where the president lived his whole life and where he headquartered his business interests, today the state legislature in new york voted that they would provide the president's state tax returns to congress if the tax-related committees in congress believe they need to see them. now there is no sign yet that the democrats in congress will take up this offer from new york state, which is offering to give them the president's state tax returns. but if the democrats in congress do ultimately decide to go that route, it is expected that those state tax returns would likely contain much of the same information as the president's federal tax returns, which he is fighting so hard to keep secret. and all that has happened in less than two weeks. and it's just the start. i mean now today for the second time in three days, a federal judge has ruled that financial institutions subpoenaed by congress to hand over materials related to president trump, those financial institutions must comply with those subpoenas from congress. on monday, it

the state legislatures -- most recently the state legislature in the state of tennessee, seeking to make it more difficult for people to vote. by adding artificial restrictions based on flimsy and phony reasoning that have no other intent whatsoever but to stop people from voting and to stop black people from voting. and no less than three cases, three federal court cases, states have been found to have intentionally discriminated in passing these laws. the second member of the trio are state legislatures all across america. the third member of the terrible trio is the russian federation. the russian federation and the research agency called the ira. much has been written about the role of russian interference in the 2016 election. but what has not been clearly articulated is the russians had multiple intent. one of the driving intent was to suppress the african- american vote. and i report, thanks to the research of the german marshall fund, you can take the covers off of that -- because of how widespread it was. this just occurred at a time in american history when the voting power of

we must be active in the state legislatures. in opposition to suppression and in favor of voter expansion -- it is our calling, it is our cause, it is our duty. let's give the brennan center another big round of applause. fork you for an xl let -- an excellent report. [applause] >> here to discuss ways that russian trolls exploited racism to distort our democracy is laura rosenberger, a senior fellow at the german marshall fund. they are our other partner in this report. she is also the director of the fund's alliance for securing democracy. please welcome laura. [applause] laura: good morning, everybody. i am going to apologize for the slightly scratchy voice and occasional cough. i came down with a cold. i am pleased to be here with the national urban league. i want to thank mark for his vision and leadership and wanting to include this important issue in the report. -- this year's report. as mark mentioned, we have seen a lot of discussion about russian interference in our democracy in the 2016 election. there has been a lot

in reality no state had any experience with insurance marketplaces before and state legislatures werepart-time basis. so actually developing the legislative coalition to create these sorts of things proved to be hard. in the end really only a small and origin of states ever these health insurance marketplaces and a lot of the responsibility fell to the federal government which was not necessarily expecting to happen. the states involved with the aca, many of the regulatory grotections, things like bannin insurance companies from excluding people with pre-existing conditions from coverage, requiring insurance plans to work -- to cover dependent children up to the age of 26, and a variety of other consumer protections, all of those were implemented directly by the states, the federal government required the states to do so. once sort of important piece of this is many of these decisions on like the insurance exchanges didn't have to go back through a state legislature in order to pass. state insurance commissioners who already sort of had a general authority to do these sorts of consume

that is not the way that our state legislature operates in tennessee and it is not the way the united states congress should operate. >> you said you have to see the entire package. had you not look at this hill? it has been available since thursday. if you are willing to come and vote today, why not have a settled your position on how you will vote next week? i have looked at the legislation and i am aware of its terms. this is a deliberative body. decision untill i have heard all of my colleagues who might speak to the various elements of this. being back in the district, i had an opportunity to hear from the voters in the sixth district on how to be like to see me vote on this matter. my belief again is that the members of congress should be here. they could be summoned back to washington. the speaker could return from wherever she is at this hour and we could take this matter up and have it passed later today. if that is what she chose to do. instead, the speaker let us leave town. believe that we should be here and the taxpayers deserve to have their members to vote on these matt

danger the bill must still go to the state governor for his signature but it is already polarized opinion. emotions were running high both outside the alabama legislature with pro-abortion activists rallying against the bill and inside the state senate where lawmakers engaged in fierce debate. why you are want to control our bodies. our will never ever know and i know that many of you have daughters are republican senators say this is about alabama's abortion law they want their bill to change u.s. legislation what this bill is designed to do is to go to the supreme court and challenge the particular procedure. that in 1703 that abortion is a legal. essential anytime anywhere for any reason the bill downs abortions at every stage of pregnancy unless a woman's life is in danger an amendment to allow exceptions in cases of rape and incest was voted down doctors who perform the procedure could be charged with felonies and face up to 99 years in jail it's the latest in a wave of attempts by states to impose new abortion restrictions just last week georgia governor brian kemp followed kentucky mississippi and ohio signing a bill that criminalizes abortions

bill that criminalizes abortions performed after 6 weeks with republicans in control of most state legislatures and an increasingly conservative judiciary pro-choice activists face an uphill battle to maintain abortion rights one nearly 50 years ago. these are unprecedented times in the united states to talk about where this goes from here i'm joined by travis change to joins us from the pro-choice groups center for reproductive rights he is senior counsel for us litigation that puts him on the front lines of legal battles over abortion travis joins us from new york tonight good to have you on the show the the alabama law all is designed to trigger a legal challenge that will go all the way to the u.s. supreme court the pro-life the advocates for women and their reproductive rights is their camp your camp are you prepared for this battle. absolutely laws like what we saw in alabama are blatantly unconstitutional and we stand ready to challenge whenever states and act these harmful laws we've already succeeded this year in striking down similar bans in mississippi in north carolina and the fight

>>as as a body as is the state legislature to to be stewards of the tax dollars. this project has to be reevaluated and i think at least at a minimum the voters should have a say to be their vote again on this project, many questions surrounding the fate of funding for the bullet train we asked of project leaders have a plan b it's not appropriate to look at other contingencies until the lawsuit. >>is resolved and so that's why we're in court now will be commenting on until 2 >>we reached out to the federal railroad but we have not yet heard back. according to actually zavala kron 4 news. >>the state assembly has approved new rules for electric bikes and scooters businesses like burden span have deployed scooters to cities across the bay area in recent years. often local governments have not set up permits or regulations for the devices with the exception of of san francisco, the a bill passed in the assembly would require electric bike and scooter companies to get permits from cities. it would also require them to agree to rules for parking and now goes on to the

states in the u.s. that determine whether or not you can vote at the presidential level and for the legislature at the national level. the state level ratification sorry the state level enfranchisement was full enfranchisement of women. you have full enfranchisement of women in almost all western states after a long battle. prior to the 19th amendment even getting on the docket in the senate and house at the national level. what i argue in my book is what we have to think about the west is not just this political culture but also this tumultuous period where the party alliances aren't as solidified as they are in the east. the machine politics exists in the cities but aren't necessarily as entrenched as everywhere else in the east. these are places where politics are up for grabs in many ways. when i argue is electoral competition and high levels of competition leads to the kind of entrepreneurial activity of courting new voters. in the western states the politicians thought maybe this is a group i can court and win. i don't necessarily have a solid ethnic voting base the way tammy hall did in new york city. i

>>as we reported earlier bad and on abortion are making their way through state legislatures all acrossted states and today, those bans were drawing large protests rallies called in all 50 states demanding that lawmakers stop the kristen holmes reports from the steps of the supreme court in washington. >>thousands of abortion rights protesters rally against a wave of street. read stays in these abortion man's been popping up all over the country they're getting more and more extreme to women and people seeking abortion had enough last week alabama and acting in the strictest abortion law in the country which would make abortion illegal in almost all cases, including rape incest and it's terrifying i mean feeling like you could lose your bodily autonomy. the law also says doctors to perform an abortion could face up to 99 years in prison. other states, including georgia most recently, mississippi and ohio enacting a so-called heartbeat law meaning nearly all abortions become a legal. once a heartbeat is detected as early as 6 weeks. many of these laws facing a i will challenge it. many d

cities across the country bowing to fight back against bans on abortion recently passed by state legislatures in alabama, georgia, ohio and other states.>> the protest featured the slogan stop the bands. >> many women were outraged and many tell me there were young girls when they established a woman's legal right to abortion and now 46 years later they are here fighting for reproductive rights yet again. women turned out in droves across the state in solidarity. >> reporter: from outside city hall in san francisco and san jose the message was clear. this national day of action is in response to a wave of abortion bans passed in states like alabama, missouri and georgia. it's a ban on what opponents call basic human rights.>> they are coming for women at doctors. in san francisco we are fighting back.>> reporter: it came for some whose passion was palpable.>> i would say get out of my womb.>> reporter: states passing abortion bans where it really hurts, their wallet.>> today am also requesting our city attorney to drop legislation that limits the city of san francisco from doing business with

across the country today, protesting the abortion bans which have been making their way through state legislatures across the nation. rallies were held today in the bay area and all over the us cluding georgia, where the so-called heartbeat bill was signed into law this month. thank you for joining us, i'm pale morning. i'm can weigh in rallies took place in all 50 states today, including in alabama where the most restrictive abortion ban in the country was just signed into law. >>that case could end up headed to the us supreme court ground force kristen holmes reports from the supreme court. >>thousands of abortion rights protesters rally against a wave of street. read stays in these abortion mancity popping up all over the country they're getting more and more extreme women in people seeking abortion had enough last week alabama and acting rf the strictest abortion law make abortion illegal in d almost all cases, including rape incest it's terrifying i mean feeling like you could lose your bodily autonomy. the law also says doctors to perform an abortion could face up to 99 years in. other state

and so that's not the way city councils operate and not the way -- at least our state legislature operates in tennessee and it's not the way the united states congress should operate. >> one more question. >> you say that if you're not going to vote on monday and you have to see the entire package, two-part question. number one, have you not looked at this bill? this bill has been available since thursday. number two, if you're willing to come and vote no today, and block the entire process why not have -- your position on how you would vote next week on a roll call vote? those two seem inconsistent. >> i have looked at the legislation. and i'm aware of its terms. but, you know, this is the -- a deliberative body. and i hold out final decision until i've heard all of the colleagues that i have who might speak to the various elements of this. and obviously being pack in the district, i have an opportunity to hear from voters in the sixth district about how they might like to see me vote on this matter. so my belief, again, is that the members of congress should be here. they could be summon

state legislatures that put new tougher restrictions on women's access to abortion has become a controversial development here in the united states those who support the outlawing of abortion say that they are glenn getting closer to the day when the procedure is outlawed in all 50 states and u.s. territories those who support abortion rights say that these new laws represent really a new frontier in trying to undercut the lives of women and girls and so they are trying to find a political way to respond to this new slate of laws being passed we've already seen demonstrations at state legislatures there's already talk of raising money to fund efforts to try to defeat the laws or overturn the laws in the state courts perhaps in the federal courts as well but in the meantime this is a process that has been really going on since 1973 when the roe v wade decision was decided by the u.s. supreme court that ruling says that women do have a constitutional right to seek an abortion however that does not mean that the u.s. states have not had any efforts in that time to try to restrict access to abort

the law was approved by alabama's state legislature earlier this month, and is due to come into effectountry, vocal opposition to a slew of state abortion bands. of state abortion bans. if the alabama state legislature has its way, doctors performing abortions would face a jail sentence with a maximum term of 99 years. the ban, which offers no exception for rape or incest, was signed last week, but has not yet taken effect. the wave of anti—abortion legislation in mississippi, georgia, kentucky, ohio, missouri, is being seen as an effort to prompt the us supreme court to overturn roe v wade, the landmark 1973 case that guarantees a woman's constitutional right to abortion. the american civil liberties union says banning abortion is blatantly unconstitutional, violating supreme court precedent. the sponsor of the bill, the author of the bill, and even the governor of alabama herself have all stated that they know that it is unconstitutional. they know that it is going to be blocked by the courts, and yet they still feel emboldened, emboldened by president trump's anti—abortion agenda, e

>>abortion bans are making their way through state legislatures across the us causing people all over the country to protest today, you can see video showing some of those rallies is demonstrators are calling on lawmakers to stop the bags. so last week alabama's governor signed the strictest abortion law in the country which would make abortion illegal in almost all cases, including instances of rape and incest the governor's hoping that the new law will challenge the supreme court's roe versus wade decision all of this. certainly causing an uproar prompting the protest today, kristen holmes reports from the steps of the supreme court in washington. >>thousands of abortion rights protesters rally against a wave of street. read stays in these abortion mancity popping up all over the country they're getting more and more extreme women in people seeking abortion had enough last week alabama and acting in the strictest abortion law in the country which would make abortion illegal in almost all cases, including rape incest it's terrifying i mean feeling like you could lose your bodily auto

we have these gerrymandered state legislatures. mocrats got 54% of the vote, get only 36% of the seats in the wisconsin legislature. that overly republican wisconsin state legislature does a whole variety of things, tries to shorten the number of days that people can vote, takes crazy positions when it comes to reproductive rights, doesn't pass sane gun safety measures. if you care about those individual issues, my job is to try to make people understand that they are directly tied to redistricting. >> so this is bigger than any of the other policy issues that you mentioned because it's underneath all of them. >> its foundation for all of those other concerns. and it is from my perspective this whole question of making sure that everybody has the opportunity to vote and that their vote gets counted in an appropriate way. that's the civil rights issue i believe of our time. there. >> is a lot of talk about america being a leader. and as a democracy, quote/unquote in the 1800s when women and african americans couldn't vote. what kind

and so i think the lack of representation of women is a serious problem, and alabama and state legislaturesng to redress that a bit in congress, but still, we fall far behind the rest of the world. so we know that there are people in the united states who vote solely on the issue of abortion and trying to ban it, are you seeing, as part of a women's movement in the country, people who will vote solely on the issue of protecting a woman's right to choose. absolutely. in fact, that has been the case for many years. an overwhelming majority of americans support access to safe and legal abortion. but it is not their single voting issue? it is for a lot of people, and in fact, it's been interesting, it's trending more that way. particularly now because it's actually at risk. in many ways, people who have believed in this right and supported it felt like it was protected, it didn't have to be a voting issue. now, i think, because of the words of donald trump, the actions of donald trump, the confirmation of kavanaugh to the supreme court, actions by the state legislatures, people are much more fo

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bill that criminalizes abortions performed after 6 weeks with republicans in control of most state legislatures and in increasingly conservative judiciary pro-choice activists face an uphill battle to maintain abortion rights one nearly 50 years ago. this is the president is times in the united states let's go now to washington bureau chief alexander phenomena she's following the story for us good evening to you alexandra i mean you have been talking to pro wife campaigners amid this law in alabama is in direct violation of federal law how are they justified. well there are saying that they strongly believe that life begins and cuts at conception and that this life the life of an unborn baby has to be protected and they say that even it is considered a constitutional right for a woman to have an abortion they believe that an abortion is murder and for there are convinced doctors performing this procedure have to be charged with felony and that even the women who wants to have an abortion have to be prosecuted so that's their position and now they are hoping and seeing this bill and alabama as a

people who are opposed to legal abortions have been exercising all sorts of efforts in the state legislatures across the country to try to put restrictions on when a woman or a teenage girl can obtain an abortion as of right now 42 out of 50 states and the district of columbia have restrictions on when a woman can obtain an abortion so what we're seeing in recent weeks is just the next phase of people who don't like abortion trying to outlaw it and ultimately try to pass a law that could be challenged in the courts and ultimately make its way to the supreme court where these people believe that the current political make up of the 9 justices could actually mean a revisitation to the 1973 ruling and perhaps toss out roe v wade and once again make abortion illegal in all cases that is their hope that's why we're seeing these laws being passed right now the measure is a big step and the criminalize ation of abortion runs. that's right it's not just going after the clinics where abortions are performed they're mostly performed in clinics it's not just going after doctors and other medical personn

and i wonder why that has not been, why the state legislatures have not been criticized for that. and if you agree, mr. vedder, that they have walked away from their responsibility to educate their kids in their states. host: gary, thanks for the call. guest: well, it is absolutely true what you said, that governments are putting up a much smaller percentage, financing a much less, smaller percentage of the total bill for going to college than was the case a half-century ago. what has happened with wisconsin, which, by the way, is a wonderful school. i agree with you. i have been on the campus many times. but what has happened in medicin madison and wisconsin hs happened throughout the country. there has been a decline in public support for hiring. gallup polls with other similar, that thereolls, show is a declining public support for colleges. there is a disenchantment with colleges. arei suspect legislators picking up on that, and they like to put their money where it will win them votes come up be popular with them, and they are finding that colleges are a little less appealing

what else do these state legislatures have in common? they rank among the lowest when it comes to gender representation and women in power. meanwhile, here in the senate, republican leader mcconnell has lined up even more extreme ideological judicial nominees who have records of restricting women's rights. just last week, as i mentioned, the republican majority confirmed ms. wendy vitter, who once promoted the concept that contraceptives cause cancer and claimed that planned parenthood kills 150,000 women a year. that anyone could make those statements and then be approved by this senate chamber for a lifetime appointment to the federal bench tells you the standards that are being used by the trump administration and by the republicans in this body. she was confirmed to a lifetime appointment. this week the senate is considering mr. daniel collins, who has been nominated to the ninth circuit over the objection of both california senators. he filed an amicus brief in support of hobby lobby petition to deny female employees of that corpora

alabama is the latest state legislature to push stricter abortion bills. last week georgia became the sixth state to pass a bill banning abortion after six weeks, when a heartbeat can be detected. with a solid conservative majority on the supreme court, many pro abortion rights advocates believe these new bills could one day be used to overturn roe v. wade. when you look at this clinic, do you worry that that clinic may not be here in a couple of years? >> no. we've been here 40 years, and we'll have another 40 years. you can't pass unconstitutional legislation to try to shut us down. >> reporter: mia raven works with the only abortion clinic in montgomery. she organizes volunteers who help escort women through the gauntlet of anti-abortion rights demonstrators nearby. >> don't think that just because, you know, this is happening in the south we expect this out of alabama. you could be next. and you probably will be next. >> reporter: a spokesperson for the governor's office tells me that the governor, a republican, kay ivy, has not decided how she will vot

the state legislature designated it harvey milk day in 1989. the community also hosted a rally. >>> now to new developments. american taliban john walker lynn is going free tomorrow. he was with the taliban in afghanistan on 9/11. whit johnson has the latest outside the indiana prison will he will be released. >> reporter: in just a matter of hours, the so-called american taliban will walk out of this prison. john walker lindh served 17 of his 20-year sentence. lindh was found gaunt and filth. an uprising at a prison resulted the death of a cia officer mike span. lindh converted to islam, left for the at least, even met bill bin laden at an al qaeda training camp. he pleaded guilty to giving armed support to the taliban and condemned terrorism at his sentencing. but two government reports found that he continued to advocate for global jihad and pro-isis statements and even preached in prison. a judge ordered tough restrictions as part of his release, including he can only communicate with people in english as part of his limited and restricted

was the marches on the streets in montgomery alabama where the state legislature knocked it the most restrictive abortion law in the country just last week. on the protest in front of the supreme court in washington on the national day of action to stop the bans thousands rallied all over the country against recent rollbacks of abortion rights democratic lawmakers lined up to attack the republican party who's on to abortion campaign is gathering steam that either of us. can't. c be sure because. at the back country there thank god for ever versus. that. from this very fractious. republican much like yours are waging a war. fundamental right was active ists all surrounded on the president's trunk has boosted the anti-abortion cause by appointing conservative judges to the supreme court hands to federal courts so that our message to your president jacques . was was not because we had enough of you are. now part bodies you are making decisions marcus about it. was the us is facing long and polarizing call room battles over the right to abortion. and it's another divisive issue as the co

state. as republican legislatures across the country attack reproductive rights with a wave of anti-abortion bills, this threat is coming from the state of missouri itself. planned parenthood says that missouri's health department is threatening not to renew its license over a series of unreasonable demands, including interviewing seven of the clinic's doctors. dr. colleen mcnicholas, an abortion provider at the clinic, told reporters -- "this is harassment and attempted intimidation of doctors at the highest levels of government." if missouri i fails to renew the license by may 31, it will become the first state without any abortion services since roe v. wade recognized the consnstitutional right to an abortion in 1973. planned parenthood has fileded a lawsuit to stop the clinic's closurure. a hearing is scheduled for this afternoon in st. louis. amy: this comes less than a week after missouri's republican governor mike parson signed a law banning abortions at eight weeks of pregnancy, with no exceptions in cases of rape or incest. the law will trigger a total ban if roe v. wade is overturn

introduced a number of state legislatures hundreds gathered in washington to demand the procedure remains legal last week alabama and into the country strictest abortion law banning it in nearly all cases including rape and incest. austrian president alexander founded valen has sought to reassure citizens following a government crisis the junior coalition partner of the far right freedom party has quit the government of chancellor sebastian cortes after its leader vice chancellor kristen resigned following a corruption scandal. as it roams biggest airport on 24 hour strike causing hundreds of flight cancellations italy is a flag carrier alitalia said it had cancelled $300.00 its brain transport union is pushing for a deal guaranteeing the future of the airline which has been taken over by the government. austrian formula one legend niki lauda has died at the age of 70 his family says he passed away in the sleep at a hospital in juric itself had been affected by horrific crash the 1976 german grown prix is being remembered as one of the best and most charismatic drivers in formula one hist

state legislatures that put new tougher restrictions on women's access to abortion has become a controversial development here in the united states those who support the outlawing of abortion say that they are glenn getting closer to the day when the procedure is outlawed in all 50 states and u.s. territories those who support abortion rights say that these new laws represent really a new frontier in trying to undercut the lives of women and girls and so they are trying to find a political way to respond to this new slate of being passed we've already seen demonstrations at state legislatures there's already talk of raising money to fund efforts to try to defeat the laws or overturn the laws in the state courts perhaps in the federal courts as well but in the meantime this is a process that has been really going on since 1973 when the roe v wade decision was decided by the u.s. supreme court that ruling says that women do have a constitutional right to seek an abortion however that does not mean that the u.s. states have not had any efforts in that time to try to restrict access to abortion a

how can he do that with this new state request the new york state legislature? >> it's going to be a lot more difficult because president trump only has his article ii power in the federal system. in new york it's limited only by new york's individual state tax laws. as the president believe it or not he has zero power over state laws or state government. so it's a totally different sovereign as we call it, a different kingdom literally between the states and the federal government. so that is something that won't be as easily slow walked because trump doesn't have the same power over the state government. >> so for the new york legislature it's a way around for them. >> it is. there may be other laws protecting the privacy of individual taxpayers but trump doesn't have that article 2 power that presidential power to order the executive branch including the department of the treasury to do whatever he wants hem them to do. >>> let's get a check on your weather now from bill karins. >> we made it through yesterday, considering we went into it considering we'll hav

the opponents call this a weaponization of the state legislature. basically, it's a law that will allow the congressmen investigating on three committees to get hold of president trump's state tax returns. not the federal returns, but the state returns are very similar. if they request them, and they probably will, and we expect the governor to sign off on this bill. of course, that will help what's going on in congress. the question of course is whether or not any of this would ever happen because this ultimately will no doubt go to the courts. here is a sense of the debate that went on a little while ago and the emotion that was there. take a listen. >> let's cut to the chase. this bill is not designed to advance new yorkers' interests. it's designed solely for political headlines on a national stage that does not help or protect new yorkers. >> congress must guarantee that the irs is not giving favorite treatment to any of its bosses, including the president. congress was guaranteed that no public official is selling government policy for personal

like this brings up, dan, is the fact that what we're seeing these last three years in the state legislatures is the culmination of a 40-year effort by the conservative movement to do this, and it's a reminder of how the democrats were asleep at the switch in state legislatures. >> that's totally right. along with that what you now see is governance by red or by blue depending on the makeup of the state. >> we're going to start to see blue states cod few parts of roe, aren't we? >> absolutely. i think going back to your conversation with tim ryan, the reason that we need governors and state legislators and senators is to protect against this very thing. >> do you wish tim rooen had run for governor? >> i do. it begs the question of why some of these candidates are in the race for president of the united states. >> yeah. it's a big tv stage. that has something to do with it. if you build it, they will announce. >> up next, meet the newest 2020 democrat. we call him 24. bill de blasio jumps into the presidential race, but could we end up with yet another -- how about stacy abrams? she hasn't ru