he represents the sacramento suburbs in the state legislature. he was vaccinated against covid-19 but said if elected governor he would do away with newsom's mandate on vaccines and masks. he's in favor of a minimum wage but says it should not be as high as what democrats are pushing for. kylie also believes in climate change but says he's against newsom's orders to, for example, ban all oil drilling by 2045. this is the for this thing from a partisan recall as much as gavin newsom. i'd like you to believe but, you know, the very reason he's able to go on tv. you know, constantly incessantly right spreading also is because he's getting tons of money from the very same special interests that control the governor's office. >> happening today. lawmakers return to sacramento for the final week. >> of california's legislative session. ashley zavala gives us a preview of what they're going to be talking about.

he represents the sacramento suburbs in the state legislature. he was vaccinated against covid-19 but said if elected governor he would do away with newsom's mandate on vaccines and masks. he's in favor of a minimum wage but says it should not be as high as what democrats are pushing for. kylie also believes in climate change but says he's against newsom's orders to, for example, ban all oil drilling by 2045. this is the for this thing from a partisan recall as much as gavin newsom. i'd like you to believe but you know, the very reason he's able to go on tv. you know, constantly incessantly right spreading also is because he's getting tons of money from the very same special interests that control the governor's office. >> it was winter reporting happening this week. vice president kamala harris will be in the bay area on wednesday to rally in support

i came out of a state legislature wherever bill was taken up under an open rule. in eight years in the legislature i can count maybe five or six times where people used that to make political hey, but by and large the incentive was or at least the norm was, don't be a jerk. in part because you don't know when you are going to be in the minority and you don't want people to be a jerk to you. and yet we see a lot of the activity in our nation's capitol certainly much more focused on making political statements than on trying to make law. so how would we change the incentives on that? how -- i think this gets into this issue of member empowerment, too. people want to have a sense of efficacy. but it's this tricky dynamic. i shared with dr. reynolds when i was 10 years old my parents gave me the tune to have free rein over the pantry and use the stove and i quickly gained 70 pounds. it was very empowering, but i abused i. then i lost the keys to the pantry. which is why we have closed rules now. we have taken away the keys to the pantry. so what do we do? >> i will say

back in april, republicans in the state legislature in arizona announced they would start an audit with the election results in that state. they hired a contractor to do that audit, a guy who promoted qanon conspiracy stuff online, a guy who never had any experience whatsoever with election administration or election audits, which is actually a real thing. experts can do election audits. he was not one of those experts. in fact, he had no experience in the field at all. they nevertheless hired him and his company, which appears to just be him, a company called cyber ninjas, and with that auspicious beginning just conducted a months-long circus in arizona. they started in arizona, they said it would take three weeks. it's five months later, and they're finally going to release their results tomorrow. as we've been reporting, everyone in trump world is vibrating at a very high pitch in anticipation of the audit result tomorrow. former president trump has been

he represents the sacramento suburbs in the state legislature. he was vaccinated against covid-19 but said if elected governor he would do away with newsom's mandate on vaccines and masks. he's in favor of a minimum wage but says it should not be as high as what democrats are pushing for. kylie also believes in climate change but says he's against newsom's orders to, for example, ban all oil drilling by 2045. this is the for this thing from a partisan recall as much as gavin newsom. i'd like you to believe but you know, the very reason he's able to go on tv. you know, constantly incessantly right spreading also is because he's getting tons of money from the very same special interests that control the governor's office. >> later this week. vice president kamala harris will head to california to fight against the newsom recall effort. the newsom campaign said the vice president will appear with the governor at a

he represents the sacramento suburbs in the state legislature. he was vaccinated against covid-19. but said if elected governor he would do away with newsom's mandate on vaccines and masks. he's in favor of a minimum wage but says it should not be as high as what democrats are pushing for. kylie also believes in climate change but says he's against newsom's orders to, for example, ban all oil drilling by 2045. this is the furthest thing from a partisan recall as much as gavin newsom. i'd like you to believe but, you know, the very reason he's able to go on tv. you know, constantly incessantly right spreading also is because he's getting tons of money from the very same special interests that control the governor's office. >> still ahead on kron 4 news at 10 crews have stopped the forward progress of the fire that forced hundreds of evacuations over the weekend. >> the tactics they use help them get the upper hand.

you can see if the state legislature is doing. also what people are saying about the state legislature. some of the other -- that particularly accessible. i think i certainly, and many historians who work on the 19th century, are really using a lot of digitized newspapers these days. some that are incredibly helpful, how's a certainly university libraries, subscribe to some these databases. so do some public libraries. we often use ancestry.com quite a bit. that is interesting because it was a tool that was really developed for genealogists. and at those of us are interested in finding people who are kind of hard to find. this digitized access to the federal census and related documents gives us an ability to research more quickly and more thoroughly than we would have ever had before the digitization of the sources. >> same. i think that dirty little secret as we all love ancestry.com. and genealogists are really the hero of setting in motion a lot of the digitization we are seeing now. chronicling america from the library of con

pennsylvania and ohio, michigan states that are ordinarily, very, very competitive have been drawn in such a way that even a majority of citizens cannot change their own legislature when they stand together . after our 2018 elections, there were 59000000 americans who lived in a state where one or both chambers of the state legislature were controlled by the party that one fewer votes that year. that's nearly one and 6 of us. so i think that one of the dangers of gerrymandering is that it has exacerbated minority rule case. yeah. and i, i would miss add to that that, you know, the foundation of a representative democracy is that the voters should be able to hold the government accountable. when these lines are drawn in such a way that they are pre determining who is going to win. and what party is going to win because they've looked at the math and they've seen okay, we're guaranteeing this many kind of them. voter that we want is here and this view number of voters are over here. then people can on the left, ineffective representative. or if a representative is going and trying to make sure that maybe there's somebody of the same party rang again. and they are l

changing one state legislatures after another and trump's friendly territory is trying to make so state legislatures can throw out your vote. if you don't vote for donald trump, if they don't like what your community does or your precinct does or what your state does. these republican legislatures that are trumpists are now passing legislation that takes the power away from election officials and takes the power away from secretaries of state and governors. let's just start telling the truth. you see the people behind donald trump? they're the people who's feeling this. they're the ones that are preferring the lies and going to the conspiracy sites and getting their information from the reuter or the bbc, they're getting it from chinese religious cults. oh, we can't trust the ap and the mainstream media. here is some information from the chinese religious bill. what are you thinking about? that's the insanity that we live in. we need to stop looking at trump and these images and start looking at people behind him who know the truth but rather live in a lie. everyday they continue to tal

this just shows that when you control the federal judiciary and you control state legislatures and stateent there's a lot you can accomplish. and that starts with abortion here. you know, the justice department can protect abortion clinics and people walking in from harassment. there has been an idea that the governor -- that the justice department could try to intervene in these cases where abortion providers were sued by private parties. you know, i think when the supreme court let this law go into effect, i mean, it really signaled where the law's headed. i think the only answer really to this is fights at the state level and political -- these political fights now if roe v. wade appears to be on the way out as the texas -- as the supreme court indicated by voting 5-4 to let this law go into effect. it means that in all 50 states the question of whether abortion is legal is going to be up to the state legislatures and up to the governors. and that's where the fight's going to be now because it looks like the federal courts are lost on this subject. >> jeffrey toobin, wendy davis, than

one arizona bill flatly states that the legislature may revoke the secretary of state's issuance or certification of a presidential elector certificate of election. by simple majority vote. some state legislatures seek to impose criminal penalties on local election officials alleged to have committed technical infractions, including things like obstructing the view of poll watchers. the stage is thus being set for chaos. imagine weeks of competing mass protests across multiple states as lawmakers from both parties claim victory and charge the other with unconstitutional efforts to take power. partisans on both sides are likely to be better armed and more willing to inflict harm than they were in 2020. would governors call out the national gourd? would president biden nationalize the guard and place it under his control. send troops in pennsylvania, texas or wisconsin to quell violent protests? displaying federal power in states would be decried as tyranny. biden would find himself where andrew jackson was during the null fix krois resist or abraham ling. making his own judgments about what consti

the california health benefits review program, which independently analyzes proposals in the state legislature, says that there is clear and convincing evidence that the treatment works. during the program, but that same research shows the effect doesn't last beyond 6 months after treatment ends. this bill has passed in the state senate, as well as the assembly. now all that is needed is the governor's signature. >>> published reports showing unusual travel arrangements by california's state treasurer, fiona law. reports obtained by the sacramento bee shows she frequently shared hotel rooms with her employees during travel for state business. that included her chief of staff, and other aids. a former san francisco supervisor, she says she did it to save money, but the practice also led to a sexual harassment lawsuit. a former employee is suing, claiming that she climbed into her bed on one trip . the state treasurer has denied any wrongdoing and she says she will prevail in court. >>> still ahead on kpix 5, and cbsn bay area , traffic changes . why cyclists want the green light to blow through

one practical idea i point to is something a lot of state legislatures do now, more than 20 state legislatures allow committees to control some floor time. so that once a month in most cases, a certain amount of time that belongs to the committee, to the chair and the ranking member, or different legislatures do this differently, where generally speaking what happens is that legislative proposals that have passed the committee, so they have some support the reflect some of the breadth of the largest legislature -- larger legislature, can move to the floor regardless of whether the party leaders want that or not. that time belongs to the chair or committee. that means the work of the committee, especially when that work is somewhat consensus driven, has the support of a large number and some state legislatures require there be a super majority on the committee for a bill to meet the requirement of that time, can actually get to the floor. and that means members don't have to think about whether what they are doing will satisfy the party leader. they can see this work can get somewhere. if we ca

republicans control the state legislature, but the state's voters actually pick the democratic candidate -- the democratic candidate for president that year. while the republicans in the legislature can say, no, no, no, we don't like -- we don't like who the votering picked. we prefer that the state's electoral votes go to our guy from our party. yeah, that, to put it mildly would be a change in the way we choose presidential candidates in this country. the whole conspiracy theory about the election being stolen really is just made up. we are getting more and more detailed information about that all the time with more to come. but it is growing and growing and in growing in importance on the right. on friday of this week, it really is about to go nuclear, and they, meanwhile, are using it to literally try to take over the actual administration of real elections by putting in charge of elections republicans that not only buy into the big lie, at least some of them are pledged basically to concretely do the work to undo election results in the future if those election results don't go repu

if you're talking about the georgia model of changing the power around elections where the state legislatureer election board through the state board, there's a few states where that's grown to be an area of concern aside from georgia. arkansas and kansas have laws where the state legislature can dispute a result and start the process of possibly overturning it. there's a bill in texas that could lead to any loser to challenge an action of an election official and take that forward. that bill is being debated. the biggest question mark is in arizona. we're still waiting to see what the cyber ninja report says. that's that so-called forensic audit which is actually just a partisan election review. whenever that is released, that will give the republican-controlled state legislature the ability to move forward on what they want to do. if you look at the bills in the hopper, there's a couple there that could alter how elections in arizona are carried out, how electors are appointed and other changes to the administration of election us that could change what 2022 and 2024 look like. >> nick, yo

. >> if they don't want to do the right thing as state legislatures and seize control of power from localction officials and basically are telling us all that years ahead of the presidential election that if they don't like how parts of their states voted, they're not going to count those votes. if republicans won't step into stop these out of control state legislatures. they're not going to do the right thing here. they're not going to pass the john-lewis voting rights act extension. update it so we can enforce it. if republicans are not going to do what they did, unanimously in 2005 or 2006, they're not going to do the right thing here. they're not going to pay their their own debt. basically cleaning up the republicans' mess. >> don't be shocked. >> all right, steve, thank you so much for being on this morning. great to see you. >> coming up, after weeks of graphic evidence and emotional testimonies. singer r. kelly has been found guilty on nine federal charges. we'll have the latest on that verdict. and what comes next in this high-profile case. "morning joe" is coming right back. "mo

then state legislature should be able to decide. abortion illegal in some states, in between in others. fully legal in others. if roe had never been on the books, this debate would have happened long ago, there would have been a kind of equalibrium, probably not to my liking, but what if more small d democratic debate which has been denied illegitimately by the supreme court. >> claire? >> well, this is an outrageous work around. just read sotomayor's dissent that four agreed with. this was a way, a trick. this was trying to take it out of the state's hands so somehow they could overrule 50 years of constitutional precedent. i can't wait for cavanaugh's precedent. they blew it up on religious freedom a few months ago. this is all about situational precedent for the far right. they've gone too far on this. there will be huge political ramifications for private bounty police going after women who want to terminate a pregnancy as soon as they find out they're pregnant, which many times is after six weeks. >> the president is not the ul

state except the one. i have not been able to get that passed through our legislature. >> can a wealthy woman under this law have access to abortion care? >> yes, she can. she can. she can travel out of state. >> who is most affected by a law like this? >> that -- those that do not have the means, people of color, the fact is to as you point out, significantly more chance of death by carrying a pregnancy then there is by having an abortion and that this proportionately impacts women of color. >> if you value life, you are creating an environment where you are putting lives at more risk and other alternatives that are empowering individuals. i recently spent time and research on women who terminate pregnancy, what reasons they are listing. they mention financial issues. is there legislation coming out of the republican majority? >> to your point, valuing life means valuing the lives of the women who are asked to carry these pregnancies. >> from do look to access to family planning, those things are not being valued. wealthy people can get access to this care. the lives, the dignity, the well-being, the healt

and right now to this day the governor and state legislatures are we fusing to act. if you think of the english so that's why we need to act and that's why we have this conversation today it is beyond unacceptable with the presidents reconciliation bill. with that comment - - income and that opportunity is in no small part for the perseverance. with the leaders like our representative by james clyburn and an organization like the conference for immediate as a catalyst. so i will and there and emily stewart who leads community catalyst well moderate this conversation but i have to mention the leadership of my friend wade henderson who is extraordinary in this moment and then helps us to build a more perfect union i will send it over to you now. >> thank you patrick. now turn to a conversation with our esteemed guest with the senate majority senator clyburn and the interim president and ceo of the leadership conference of civil human rights. we all know not only as a democratic leader but as a national leader and has been in congress since 1983 representing south carol

that to the governors in florida, south dakota, arkansas, who are ready to work with their state legislatures to enact laws. and to the other states in the country who will do similar things. i would say this is a momentous event in the history of the country and certainly one that is going to have disastrous consequences for women certainly in that state and others. host: we will go to anne in wisconsin. democrats line. caller: i have a question. i am a mother of seven. i would like to know who -- the republicans normally do not want to pay medicaid expansion, contribute to food stamps. who is going to support the children when a mother has a child that is unwanted and normally when we see the child, they do not give it up for adoption. there is also abuse that happens over the years and frustration with income. who is going to help these mothers? host: charles donovan, we will start with you. thoughts? guest: i think there was consensus on amplifying support for women. in texas along with this , legislation, they passed $100 million new appropriation for alternatives to abortion. there is b

as russians vote in a 3 day election for the state legislature, many candidates opposed to let him preach and have been excluded from the ballot. the president himself voted on line because he's isolating officer cove it outbreak on it's miss reports now from last guy. the kremlin will be hoping this long line of voters can be relied upon to by united russia. the pro vladimir putin party wants to hold onto the super majority in the state duma, the low house of parliament. they face an hours long wait on hold moscow. morning they put voted anytime in the next 3 days, the election commission says the military personnel coming off the night shift, a russian independent electric monitoring group goal often pointed out the lack of people in uniform. what the thing is that more more russian citizens don't believe in the legitimacy of these elections. it's just to show. nobody actually believed in free elections in the soviet union, just became accepted for the communists to get 99 percent of the vote boot and wants to create the same status quo that united russia will always have a super majori

could and if you could make these kind of technical legal arguments i lay out in the paper that state legislatures are unfettered in how they choose presidential electors, even if they've given the vote to the people because they can ignore the state constitutional requirements and they can overturn what election administrators have done. if you take that view of this very strong view of the power of the state legislatures and it wouldn't even take the courts to affirm that that's correct, state legislatures just say it. the republicans in the house, if kevin mccarthy is speaker of the house could ratify it and you could have the election declare the election winner. i never expected in my lifetime in the united states that would worry about whether we would have a situation of election subversion where the losers could be declared the winners. this is a much graver threat than voter suppression that got a lot of coverage. it's about trying the loser into the winner and the bedrock of democracy, the winner has to be declared the winner. >> adjudicated in the courts up to either secretary of the st

but texas is just an egregious actions by the state legislature. they've just undone 50 years of precedent. you know, this was a bench-made law. it came out of a court decision. we need to to make it a statutory law, and congress needs to act. you'll see a lot of things taking place at the state level, kind of like in nevada. our question seven locked in the provisions of roe v. wade so they couldn't be overturned without a public vote. i think you'll see grassroots groups trying to do that sort of thing in the state level while we grapple with the senate at the federal level. >> have you heard from any of your republican colleagues on this that oppose the texas law? >> i haven't unfortunately. but we're reaching out to them. we want their votes, we'd like for it to be bipartisan coming out of the house. but there's not a lot of people willing to step up as we have seen from these republicans on every issue. >> congresswoman dina titus, appreciate it. have a great rest of your day. >>> joining me to talk about there and the politics surrounding abo

candidates won 54% of the house popular vote statewide, but they walked away with just 45% of the state legislaturestates are now in the process of redrawing their electoral districts based on last year's census. and there are already troubling signs. the ohio districting commission passed maps heavily favoring super majorities if it survive an expected court challenge. republicans argue they were legally justify in awarding themselves up to 81% of ohio state legislative seats. for context 54% of ohioans are registered republicans while 46% are registered democrats. the math doesn't add up. what does it mean for you? well, the republican advantage in gerrymandering could allow them to solidify control of the u.s. house of representatives and dozens of state legislatures for decades to come over the will of a majority of americans. in short, welcome to minority rule. joining me now is former u.s. attorney general eric holder. he's the chairman of the national democratic redistricting committee. thank you so much, general holder for being here. i i guess my big question is what can we do about this?

one is we need our state legislatures to require more civics t, to require that it be taught in some way in elementary and middle schools and that we have a four-year course in high school and perhaps even a civics test and then we need to do a much better job of teacher training civics. those are the big two recommendations that i make. >> terrific. obviously your answer is near and dearto my heart because education is a space that i spend a lot of time in . what i hear you saying is start earlier, a foundation and start layering that cake. but also thinking about i hear there's a will for advocacy whether it's the business community, parents and communities asking for these things so that there's a clear quantifiable demand to begin to create the energy and importance around this so that our legislature and into ourstates and school districts .i do think the voice in this space is important but let me push on one thing. i said earlier i love to focus on k-12 education but doubling down on the priorities. i want to focuson the teacher training, that's something we're committed to .

one is we need our state legislatures to require more civics. to require that it be taught in some way in elementary and middle schools, and that we have a full-year course in high school. and perhaps even a civics test. and then we need to do a much better job of teacher training for civics. those are the big two recommendations that i make. >> terrific. obviously, your answer is near and dear to my heart because education is a space that i spent a lot of time in. so what i hear you saying in that is start earlier. lay a foundation. then start layering that cake. but also, thinking about i hear in that, there's a role for advocacy, if you will, whether it's the business community, parents and communities asking for these things so there's a clear quantifiable demand to begin to create the energy and importance around this, whether that's in our legislature and into our states and school districts. i do think the voice in this space is really important. but let me push on one thing. i said earlier, love the focus on what i would call k-12 educat

republicans in state legislatures do this all the time. now they all get struck down by the courts. the supreme court decision roe v. wade, restrict states from banning abortion, in most circumstances. it's a controlling precedent in the supreme court since 1973. and at first glance, this new texas abortion ban looks like one of the many bands that republican state legislatures, half past. which of then all been disallowed by the federal courts. because of the protections that we haven't thanks to roe v. wade. for what it's, worth the texas band says, it's illegal for a woman to get an abortion in texas, if a pregnancy is more than six weeks along. six weeks. it's well before many women have any idea they're pregnant at all. it's estimated that 85 to 90% of all abortions in texas, 85 to 90% of all abortions anywhere in america, happen after six weeks. texas is ban would render all of those illegal. as i mentioned, republican-controlled state legislatures, and republican governors, pass abortion bans all the time. now even though they know they will get struck down. some of it is just

would arizona bill flatly states that legislature may revoke the secretary of state's issuance of certification of a presidential electors certificate election. by simple majority vote. some state ledger serves seek to impose criminal penalties on local election officials election have committed technical infectious including obstructing the view of poll watchers. the state's that's been set for chaos. imagine weeks of competing mass protests against multiple states as lawmakers from both parties claim victory and charge the other with unconstitutional efforts to take power. partisans on both sides are likely to be better armed and more willing to inflict harm than they were in 2020. would governors call out the national guard? with president biden nationalize the guard and please say under his control, invoke the insurrection act, and sent troops into pennsylvania or texas, or wisconsin, to quell violent protests? deploying federal power in the states would be decried as terri. president biden would find himself with other presidents have been -- where interjection was during the nullification

that didn't stop or even slow the fervent, maniacal push in state legislatures and gop-led state housesting restrictions. texas is the latest state to do so, but it will not be the last. now pressure builds on democrats in washington to pass federal voting rights legislation. with texas's restrictive voting bill getting signed into law today, many of the initiatives undertaken during the pandemic that expanded access to the vote and were popular in heavily democratic harris county are illegal, but no group of democrats in the entire country fought as hard as texas democrats fought, who fled their state to block the voting restrictions signed by governor abbott take. but gop-run states run zero risk of being slowed down if washington democrats remain in a defensive crouch about the sanctity of the filibuster. it might be time to stop talking about if gop voting restrictions go unchecked in state houses and adjust to the new reality. democrats appear poised to do nothing as of yet when it comes to federal voting rights legislation. i want to be wrong about that. message to any washington

where we got the ball and trying to mentor summa like the ones in the council or though run for state legislature but then they don't want to run for national office because they think they can't raise money for it is harder for women to raise the money and it was hard for me to raise money. it's interesting because i'm a son who's not in politics and he raises a lot more money than i ever did from some of the same people. [laughter] i would say that because i just sent back and watch. he is good at what he does and is not because they wanted him to be in politics rated in fact i tried to discourage him anywhere could but my point in saying that is there's a difference think if you talked with the women you will find the mentor more because more men than women do the more apt to give to a man to give more money to a man that they will a woman, is just kind of know that weiss was up to women to get more involved in the process. and if they do, and the keep moving up the ladder in effect, they have a little bit of experience on and they can get elected but we've got to encourage them. i think the p

your state legislature is meeting in an emergency session the try to deal with this covid surge. what do you want them to do? what do you want them to come out of this emergency session with? >> i've talked with some of the state legislatures and the people in the state health department about setting up regeneron clinics across the state. in an area we could really improve in. we also need help in hiring additional staff. we need help from other staff and other states that aren't being hit as hard. our health care workers have gone to work out in multiple states and california and florida and in new york. now we need additional help and need additional funding hopefully from the federal government and the state to help out with that. >> doctor, we hear you and we'll watch very closely what comes out of this special session. thank you for taking the time to talk to us. >> thank you. >>> president biden is touring flood damage in new jersey and warning if we do not act immediately on climate change, this extreme weather, the fierce storms will continue and get worse. >>> louisiana

a state votes for the republican candidates for president but democrats control the state legislatureso they are like no, we're not counting, that we're seeing the state picks the democrats, or vice versa. republicans can control the state legislature but the state voters actually pick the democratic candidates for president that here, well the republicans can say we don't like for the voters pick, we prefer that the electoral vote goes to our guy, from our party. to put it mildly would be a change in the way we do presidential candidate races. the whole conspiracy theories about the election being stolen is just made up. we're getting more and more detailed information about that all the time, with more to come, but it is growing and growing and in growing in importance on the right. on friday on this week it's about to go nuclear, and they are using it to try to take over the actual administration of real elections by putting in charge of election republicans that not only buy into the big fly, at least some of them are pledged basically decline currently do the work to undo electio

. >> one of the city's health officials is saying that the state legislature is keeping you from implementingcols like mask mandates and limiting event sizes. is the state keeping you from keeping your residents safe? >> oh, absolutely. the montana legislature is a function of what was really for us a brutal legislative session. the state legislature meets every two years. and this session was all about backlash against local health departments and really local communities and local control. we are no longer able to issue mask mandates. we can't -- we really have none of the tools that were at our disposal early in the pandemic, which i think contributed mightily to keeping our numbers low and to keeping the community safe. those options aren't available to us today. and it's tragic, and it's some of the dumbest politics i've experienced in 16 years in the city of missoula. >> mayor, thank you. good luck. thank you so much. be safe. >> thank you. appreciate the chance to tell our story. >> absolutely. >>> so, idaho has one of the lowest vaccination rates, and their covid cases are so bad that

another star, state ratifications are coming along and you have to pass in both chambers in each state legislature but after a while they start to trickle down and many of the sudden states immediately rejected, for the record my home state of virginia doesn't pass the nineteenth amendment until 1952 so the momentum starts to dry up and if you are thinking for historical examples you don't have to go very far to think about the era and as they start to have fewer options it becomes clear that tennessee is going to be the make or break state on this. and carrie chapman katz who is the hand-picked edge to run the american suffrage association heads to nashville and set up shop working phones and here she is in a photo holding something my children would never recognize. rebecca is doing all the photos, things down there are absolutely crazy. if you want to read more about it. you lane wrote a great book on the women's hour and it's a lot of fun. they call it a war of the roses. if you are pro-suffrage you wear a yellow rose. if you're anti-suffrage you wear a red rose. anti-suffragists are making a

process a lot of trump supporters have discovered that there is a lot of power in republican state legislaturesnd of power that allows just a hand full of extremely partisan actors to seize ballots, turn them over to other par partisan actors that results in the destruction of election equipment and there is still -- no report, the answer to no one in these kinds of investigations aren't to produce evidence. they serve it is my belief to keep the big election lie going and we have these sham audits spreading to other states as we speak. pennsylvania, wisconsin, texas and so what these partisan trump supporters are learning as a test run for future elections is what these state legislatures can do, and so while i'm very concerned about their rhetoric, about rigged election, there is a lot of action happening on the ground that deserves a lot of attention, concern and scrutiny to prepare for what is absolutely coming in 2022 and '24. >> right onme. appreciate both of your comments. stick around. the fallout of the big lie leading to the hollowing out of election administrations across this countr