>> shortly after "lockup" arrived at kentucky state penitentiary, officers had to extract harper from his cell again. >> he threatened us with throwing feces on police officers, spitting on us through the door, he threatened our families. >> a lot of the older ones like lieutenant gill, all of them, they know me from when i was a youngster. back down here. so we have a different type of communication level and understanding. >> every night you are going to go through this. you hear me? every night you work, honky, you racist, redneck, no good [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> harper will serve at least two more years in segregation. >> i made things hard for myself. i been in segregation three years. i don't blame nobody else. because i had an opportunity to get out of here. i let my anger and things get to me that i shouldn't have. and as a result of that, i'm still here. >> i can't say i'm sane. i'm pretty off balance, but i keep it in a certain amount of control. >> another inmate at kentucky state penitentiary who is no stranger to cell extractions is victor hiatt. prior to interviewing hi

the day we arrived at colorado state penitentiary, a super max prison at the base of the rocky mountains, we found a sterile use teen environment. steel doors behind which inmates are locked up 23 hours a day. but despite his surroundings, inmate shawn shields was in high spirits. when he sat down with us, he was eager to help our producer get the interview under way. >> quiet on the set you boneheads. >> it's a prison, you know. >> let's roll tape. >> then he calmly told us how he got 16 years added to his original sentence of 12 for robbery. >> me and another inmate had an altercation, i manipulated the door so that it wouldn't latch completely. and when he came out to walk, i came down after him and proceeded to stab him. >> why? was it because you guys weren't getting along. >> it was just a verbal altercation. >> does that happen a lot in here? >> there is a lot of verbal altercations between people. you've got to understand, there's 16 men living together behind closed doors with stress, animosity towards one another in some cases. it's not always a pleasant place to be. >> when in

a deal's a deal. >> back at kentucky state penitentiary, randy haight made it clear. holton. but he's ready for it, nonetheless. >> i'm extremely sad for what i've done. it hurts me knowing that i went to the level that i went. and if there was any way possible for me to be healed or correct it, believe me, it would be done. it's an impossible situation not only for me but for everybody involved, you know? and i'm not saying that to get out of an execution or -- because like i said, i'd ready. if you want to kill me, let's go. i'm ready to go. but i think that i have something i can offer somebody. and i don't think it's really time for me to die. >>> this sunday, mass murder in the air. the latest on the germanwings pilot. what medical condition was he hiding and are changes needed in the way we screen commercial airline pilots? >>> plus, as talks on a nuclear deal with iran reach their final hours -- >> for first time, u.s. officials are talking about what will happen if all of this fails. >> -- how the u.s. is becoming caught up on both sides of a proxy war between

. >> john alt was warden at the anamosa state penitentiary at the time we shot there. >> any time you can have inmates participate in some type of meaningful activity it makes their time easier. it makes staff's time a lot easier. i'd much rather have them participate in something positive than sitting around with nothing to do and talk about maybe how to pull an armed robbery or plotting against us or fellow staff members. >> during our shoot at indiana state prison, authorities even allowed for a weightlifting competition. >> lions, 495. lyons now lifting at 495. >> other penitentiaries get that weight up. that's how they're doing it. get your weight up. >> this is 25. >> 25. on deck. we push. on deck. >> let's go! go! >> good lift. good lift. you got it. >> of course, in prison, there's also a practical side to staying in shape. >> if you ever come against somebody who wants to approach you in a negative way, attack you in a fight or something, you don't want to be the person that's going to run out of air first. the person that runs out of air first is the person that gets hurt. >

we work together. >> our visit to the anamosa state penitentiary in iowa led us to another memorabler of siblings. michael and brad love. whose lifelong allegiance drove them to kill. >> growing up i wanted to be him. you know. he was -- he's almost four years older than me. you know and i see him running around drinking and breaking into stuff, and doing whatever he's doing. and i'm like, i'm going to be like him. that's my big brother. that's my idol. and so you know i kind of followed in the same footsteps. >> but as the love brothers revealed to our crew, those footsteps led down a bloody path that ended at a holiday party in their trailer park. >> it's christmas night, 1992. me and my brother went to a party with what we thought were friends. but they tried to rob us to take the liquor that we had brought. >> they started beating me up. there was like four of them. >> they hurt brad. i couldn't let them get away with that. they threatened his life and i couldn't handle that. so we left, went to my trailer, i got a shotgun, my brother got a knife, a machete and we went back out t

on count two, the sentence will be 24 months in the state penitentiary.0 fine. on count four, 24 months in the state penitentiary, you will pay a $10,000 fine. those sentences will run consecutive to one another. and you will have a lifetime driving suspension and will also pay court costs. >> i guess my hopes were kind of shot down. my hopes were about two years. two to three years. with a chance of getting my driver suspension revoked at some point. >> and the victims families spoke what was it like for you? what was going through your head? >> basically what was going through my head was stay strong. basically the male's family was mad. i don't think they are going to get over it. like me, i'm not going to ever get over it. but to cope with it is one step. the girl's grandfather did say that he forgave me. and that was a big thing. it hurt in my chest. but it felt good to hear that someone actually forgave me. >> coming up -- kyle stein takes the long walk to the state prison bus. >> i got about four years to think about what got me here. ♪ do you know

still, there are those inmates like alex bennett, at the kentucky state penitentiary, who don't always agree with or abide by the rules. >> i'm a person that's been in the joint all my life. i've been told i'm pretty hard-core. and i need a certain type of environment. you got something you want to say to me now? we can get it on national tv here. do you? >> everything about alex's mannerisms, his appearance and the words that he spoke said convict. alex just embodied that. >> bennett was 54 years old when we met him and had spent 33 of those years behind bars for armed robbery, kidnapping and murder. >> the system today isn't like the system that i came into 36 years ago. the system today has the majority of their inmates programmed to do what they're told when they're told to do it. and so, they get to the point where they expect that from everybody. well, there's still a few old dogs around, who like to do things their own way. >> bennett's way of doing things, however, has had horrifying results. after adapting to life in a single-person cell here, he was transferred to a lower sec

. >> here, it's colorado state penitentiary. and this time estrada is in for murder, a crime he committed after being released from his first prison term. >> in here, you take things a lot more serious. somebody calls you a punk, somebody calls you a bitch, someone says i'm going to kill you, in here that means, you know, you hold people to that word -- to them words, man. when i got out and guys were saying that about me, i'm going to kill john, i'm going to do this to him. the first thing in my mind is i better go kill him before he gets me even though he was probably talking out of his ass. he didn't understand the type of person i am and where i've been and the thought process i've learned in here. and he's dead now for it. it's kind of like a kill or be killed. >> estrada's prison education started early. >> how old were you when you were first arrested? >> about 13 or 14. >> what did you do? >> stealing a stereo out of a car. that's how it all began. start out stealing bubble gum at the stores all the way to snatching purs

in virginia, the superintendent of the state penitentiary sent multiple missives to the chair of the house reconstruction committee noting how the state democratic judges persistently sentenced black defendants for hard time in the state prison over minor infractions. in early 1869, the superintendent reported that "negroes are sent here for stealing one single bushel of corn from a cornfield valued at one dollar, in open violation of the law which requires that one should steal up to $20 before he can enter this institution." according to wardwell, the state's judges openly flouted these laws. he maintained that the responsible parties in congress need only read the indictment describing the offenses against certain of these freedman defendants to know that, "an american traitor with a heart black with perjury and hands red with blood should never be trusted on the judge's bench in a state like virginia." as an aside, wardwell was a new england quaker and had himself spent more than two years as a political prisoner in one of the deadliest confederate prisons after refusing to take a

." >> at kentucky state penitentiary, some inmates can apprentice in an auto body shop.rikers island jail, a bakery churns out nearly 90,000 loaves of bread per week while teaching inmates how to bake. in many of the prisons profiled on "lockup," inmates have opportunities to learn skills that can help them find work on the outside. but all too many spend their time honing skills more suitable to mayhem and murder. >> i stabbed an inmate 12 times. over some dope in front of the chow hall. >> i took a knife and i stabbed him with it three or four times, until he was dead. then i butchered him with it. >> you find a piece of metal or something, file it down on the concrete. it ain't got to be sharp. just has to have a point. put your hand on it, do what you need to do. >> "lockup" crews are regularly exposed to the tools of a deadly trade. >> in every prison we film in, there's always a shank museum, a place where the authorities display all the weapons that are confiscated by staff. ♪ homemade weapons the inmates have made from bed springs or melted down plastic. i mean,

the state penitentiary where kids can enjoy a scavenger hunt and fan that is are not athletic. number one. >>> some great news to share with you this morning about leah still. >>> cincinnati ban gals devin still says his daughter is cancer free. they posted this picture with a caption that read that moment you get the best news you have ever received and don't know what to do so you just flex. love it. leah was receiving treatment at children's hospital in philadelphia. based on scans, doctors didn't see cancer in her body. they are waiting for the biopsy results. a lot of professional athletes say family comes first. this guy put his career on hold through this. >>> you are watching nbc 10 news. nbc 10 news at 5:00 a.m. starts right now. >>> announcer: nbc 10 news starts now. >>> police discover secret facebook page and now penn state suspended the potentially illegal posts that set off another scandal. >>> watching for hot spots hours after flames engulf a philadelphia apartment complex. firefighters are still on scene. >>> spring may be days away but winter not quite done wi

. >> that's the golden rule in the state penitentiary, don't ask me [ bleep ], i don't tell them.man, respect yourself. they're going to feed him to the wolves. they're going to feed him to the wolves. he's a lamb chop. yeah. [ bleep ]. >> they're probably getting interviewed. your brother's going on tomorrow. >> without the nazi low rider code of honor to adhere to, speedy can work with isu. even as a dropout, he is blatantly breaking gang ranks by helping officers gather intelligence, working directly with officer morales, who he has known for four years. >> hi, speedy. >> i think to myself as giving something back. if it's saving somebody from getting hurt, then that's cool. that's all right. >> i brought you in today because i want to actually kind of get more insight on gangs, weapons, how they're made. because i know every step we try to take, you're always one up. >> exactly. we've got 24 hours to stay ahead of you. you only come here for eight hours. so you got to step up your game to keep up with us. >> what is this working for? >> this right here is a plastic bottle, a p

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. >> mark david chapman was sentenced to 20 years to life, and sent to the new york state penitentiarytica. in his interview with larry king, chapman claimed to have recovered from the mental illness that had led to his crime. >> it was me, larry. and i accept full responsibility for what i did. i have seen places where i am blaming the devil, and i hope that isn't kept going after this interview. i'm not blaming the devil. i'm blaming myself, but in a major sense, it wasn't me because i'm better now. i'm sorry for what i did. i realize now that i really ended a man's life. i just saw him as a two-dimensional celebrity with no real feelings. he was an album cover to me. you could sit at your computer and read all about zero-turn mowers. click. scroll. tweet. or you could just sit on a john deere z435 eztrak and feel its power. you'll know it'll get the job done fast. when it's time to pick a mower, you've got to get on one. visit your local john deere dealer for a test drive today. sign up to take your turn on a z435 and save 100 dollars on your purchase. nothing runs like a deere. but

. >> that's the golden rule in the state penitentiary, don't ask me [ bleep ], i don't tell them.espect yourself. they're going to feed him to the wolves. they're going to feed him to the wolves. he's a lamb chop. yeah. [ bleep ]. >> they're probably getting interviewed. your brother's going on tomorrow. >> without the nazi low rider code of honor to adhere to, speedy can work with isu. even as a dropout, he is blatantly breaking gang ranks by helping officers gather intelligence, working directly with officer morales, who he has known for four years. >> hi, speedy. >> i think to myself as giving something back. if it's saving somebody from getting hurt, then that's cool. that's all right. >> i brought you in today because i want to actually kind of get more insight on gangs, weapons, how they're made. because i know every step we try to take, you're always one up. >> exactly. we've got 24 hours to stay ahead of you. you only come here for eight hours. so you got to step up your game to keep up with us. >> what is this working for? >> this right here is a plastic bottle, a pepsi b

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i did 14 years in state penitentiary for armed robbery. got out, there were no jobs, no anything, like they just kicked me out. here, you're finished, go. >> abdallah said crack-cocaine has led to many of his problems and hopes to get in the jail's drug rehab program. in the meantime, working in the kitchen has given him a sense of purpose. >> we make a dollar a day. some people might say a dollar a day, but it's better than nothing. the people who don't have anything are able to buy their hygiene and cosmetic items that they need. >> while he takes pride in his cooking, his passion is writing and performing politically charged spoken word pieces. >> the founding fathers speak of american dream, but everything in america ain't always what it seems. possessed by greed and inordinate need of to the whole world down in defeat. political assassination, infiltration organizations, never apologizing for slavery or reparations. some of the things you accuse other nations of, she herself has proven herself not to be above. she brings guns and drug

older editions have this kind of but there'll baldaccini like that, just like eastern state pennsylvania -- penitentiary. they have the slipped where the light of god could shine down on you and make you think about all the awful things that you get. so yes there's quite a bit in the book about homeless bird had an appalling pass. -- holds berg. a lot of medical testing that when i go into in greater detail their weather tested just about anything you would want to be tested with they probably tested on people. they also had a bunch of riots and some of them were really grow. one, the deputy and the warden of were murdered. i'm sort of working from the present back but one of the early incidents was a hunger strike with the people were unhappy about the quality of food and so they took the strike leaders and put them into buildings that no longer exist called the klondike that a bunch of radiators and steam pipes. they changed into the wall close the windows and basically boiled them alive. and so the governor actually came out and was really upset and shaken by it. it's just a terrible thing. they did

empowered the irs to take action to address this by forming that agreements with various states and federal penitentiary or correctional organizations and they have -- they did at some point take positive steps in doing so. some of those expired. others fell by the wayside but this is a multibillion-dollar problem. it is still going on and a lot of these individuals have so much time on their hands and in all candor have nothing left to lose, they won't stop. until something more tangible is done, further prosecutions or more authority or in all candor the irs somehow feeling the pinch if they don't take action with signing up that information, sharing programs and the like with states. the problem will continue to grow and metastasize. >> i read the report talking about this and one of the recommendations was there are 300 some odd prisoners they identified to essentially give that information, to make it such that that group that they had, they could fix it where they couldn't do it and refuse to do that. is that correct? >> don't know if the refused to do it but they did not have the authority to do

did in power the irs to take actions to address this by forming agreements with various states and federal penitentiaryorrectional organizations. and they have -- they didn't some point take positive steps in doing so. some of those expired. others fell by the wayside. but this is a multibillion-dollar problem. it is still going on. and a lot of these individuals have so much time on their hands, and in all candor, have nothing left to you lose, that they're not going to stop. until something more tangible is done meaning further prosecutions or more authority or the irs somehow feeling the pinch of they don't tech -- take action with data information sharing programs and the like. this problem will continue to grow. it will metastasize. >> i red the ig report talking about this, and one of the recommendation was i think there were 300 some odd prisoners they had identified to decision give that information -- that group that they had, you know fix it where they could, and they refuse to do that. is that correct? >> i don't know if they refuse to do it. at one point, they did not have the authority to

did empower the irs to take actions to address this, by forming agreements with various states and federal penitentiary, correctional organizations. and they have they did at some point take positive steps to doing so. some of those expired. others fell by the wayside but this is multibillion-dollar problem. it is still going on and a lot of these individuals have so much time on their hands, and in all candor, really have nothing left to lose, that they're not going to stop and, until something more tangible is done, meaning, further prosecutions, or more authority or, in all candor the irs somehow feeling the pinch if they don't take action with signing up what data information sharing programs and the like with states, this problem will continue to grow. and, metastasize. >> i read the ig report talking about this and one of the recommendations was, i think there were some 300 some odd prisoners they identified to essentially give that information, to make it such that group that they had you know, they could, you know, fix it where they couldn't do it. and they refused to do that, is that correct?

state transfer. >> i've done that. i've signed that form five or six different times over the last year. >> and stiu continues its crackdown on prison gangs. >> has anyone tried to recruit you into a gang? >>> the penitentiarye state. some of whom are validated gang members who live in a constant state of war. both with each other and staff. it's up to the stiu to keep gang activity in check. today the stiu are doing a sweep in the level v facility, allowing our crew along for the ride. >> all right, ladies and gentlemen, we're here to conduct a shakedown. it's based on some activity we got. we're going to have some information on snm gang members. okay, so we're going to head to the unit, we're going to look mainly for gang information and graffiti and stuff. >> sometimes when you come shake down a cell, first thing you want to do is just observe everything. and you look. the most common places you'll find is the easiest place you'll ever think of. oh, look. gang paraphernalia right here. >> what is it? >> three crosses. represents he's from las cruces, new mexico. they use the three crosses to display their gang symbols. >> to validate is essential in maintaining the safety of the facility. >> i found tha

. >>> the penitentiary of new mexico holds some of the most violent offenders in the state. in our four months there, we saw some of the violence firsthand. but in 1980, pnm was site of one of the deadliest u.s. prison riots where inmates killed 33 of their own. >> jumped off february. almost by accident. big thing i couldn't get out of my head is they actually did it. we actually took the place over. >> james whittington survived the riot to return to the old main facility to show our producers what he witnessed. >> 27 years ago when i got up out of here. i didn't think i would ever see it again. leadership of the inmates decided hey, you know, this control center is takable. there was a huge industrial fire extinguisher that used to sit on one of these walls on hooks. three individuals lifted that industrial fire extinguisher off and said work on this window right here. the window began to give in. all three of these windows were taken out. >> once they broke that, they had access to the entire facility. they had full control. >> this is where it all turned bad after they

did empower the irs to take actions to address this by forming agreements with various states in federal penitentiariesat some point take positive steps, some of those expired door fell by the wayside but it is a problem that is still going on and to all of these individuals have so much time on their hands and in all candor have nothing left to of this they will not stop until something more tangible either further prosecutions or more authority or the irs somehow if they don't take action to sign of the information in sharing programs the problem will continue to grow. >> i read the ig report talking about this. one of the recommendations there is somehow at the -- 300 prisoners they have identified but that group that they have to fix it with a candidate refused. is that correct? >> i don't know if they refuse but at one point they did not have the authority i don't know a few predates that authority that congress did provide or not but i can get back to with clarity. >> it is just the frustration among the many things that we talk about. one last question. to identify significant concerns to premiu

slightly to the left and see the state department, that was built in the late 1950s, early 1960s, which is for n anything else it sort of looks like a federal penitentiaryurn back a reminder of how important his voice has been. >> i read camilla asking if people ever ice skate, if they can skate on the reflecting pond at other point. this is the 20th trip for prince charles to washington here but even now we were talking about the first trip he made in 1970 where he was hosted by then president richard nixon. the desire as we look at awesome photos, the desire of our then president appeared to be create a match between his then 24-year-old daughter trisha and prince charles. does he talk about that? >> president nixon married one daughter off to the grandson of eisenhower. he thought he wanted to follow that with marrying her to prince charles. he jokes about that a lot and has over the years but that's one reason why it's so fascinating having him here. this is someone who met with barack obama yesterday, as a child, knew winston churchill, the swath of history is amazing. >> talk about the role of royals in our history, i mean these trips have been ta