states into multiple seats. >> six states organic members of congress texas, florida, north carolina, oregon, montana and colorado seven states are losing a member of congress new york, pennsylvania michigan, ohio, illinois and west virginia. when people move out of a state like illinois or west virginia, two states have lost a population each are you losing a seat as well, do they take the politics with them or frustration of the politics? >> we increasingly hear of voters were throwing their hands up in the air become to inhospitable for their beliefs and choosing to move elsewhere. it takes a lot of vigorous research to determine the size of that affects, how blue or red estate becomes. but, what we know is that over time as voters either choose to live in places that are more politically comfortable or as independent voters began to lean more and more towards whatever party isn't dominant because of an echo chamber affect whether social media or the predominant feeling in their community that we are seeing more geographic polarization. that plays into redistricting in a big way.

all swing states. in every single one of those states we are seeing an extreme republican run who is either at the insurrection or spreading the big lie. we cannot have key election officers in these states not believe in democracy and the will of the people. the good thing is is that we are working really hard, we have great candidates. of course great incumbents, but great candidates emerging where we have open seats. we have a pathway to every one of these seats. although it seems that the weight of the world, the weight of democracy is on our shoulders and we have to push through, i'm very hopeful we are going to win these seats. please follow us on twitter, come to events, tell your friends, tell your neighbors to check out the democratic association of secretaries of state because we are the people defending democracy so that every eligible american, republican, democrat, and independent alike, has access to safe and secure elections. and has the ability to choose who their elected officials will

into blue states. these positions matter. attorneys general in the united states matter. >> next, i will ask our co-chair , agent healey, we have heard about the great work that attorneys general are doing. what can these -- what are some ways that people can get involved with this panel so we can keep our democratic ag's? >> just what general nessel just said. we have mark in virginia. we have to get him reelected. i want to be really clear. if you don't have democratic attorneys general in these underground states, that is a serious issue for democracy. we were the ones who could go to court. -- who can go to court, represent the state, stop donald trump from his shameful acts time and time again. they are now perpetrated by his followers to say nothing of the rule of law, nothing of the constitution, nothing of their american brothers and system, -- sisters. the way they treated this whole thing. go to our website and you can read about our wonderful ag's and candidates. we are looking to compete he

the agent of the state.audible] >> that is just contesting the premise the attorney general could not of appealed that he would've taken in the first place but. >> that's not my position my position stepping outside the hypothetical because of the way the stipulation was written the attorney general could have appealed because it is consistent with him reserving his rights to participate in any subsequent appeal and benefit from any favorable ruling for. >> i apologize for pressing on this. maybe i'm just not understanding and it may be my fault entirely. if you agree and that torres type case to grant intervention rights which i take you to agree, that's a very simple case. it seems to me the petitioners would say that is exactly what happened here because the ag could have appealed, it didn't and is now seeking intervention. if we assume that's the point the ag could have appealed, why doesn't the same result follow? and buffoon hill the fact the virginia house of delegates participated in that case bring

the states. six of them are gaining members of congress, florida, montana, colorado, seven states are losing a member of congress, ohio, illinois and other states as well. and do they take the politics with them? are they moving out of frustration? >> we are increasingly hearing of voters that are throwing their hands up in the air with the state becoming inhospitable for their political beliefs. now it takes a lot of rigorous research to determine the size and that affects and how blue or red state becomes. and what we know is that over time as voters choose to live in places that are politically more comfortable, those that are independent voters that are leaning more towards whichever party is dominant because of this echo chamber effect, whether it is social media or a predominant feeling in the community, we are seeing more and more geographic polarization and that plays into reject the redistricting and a big way. every precinct that was 5050 between the party it would be impossible for par

the more important part of this is how lines are drawn from state to state. republicans get to draw the maps in 20 states totaling 187 districts. that is because state legislatures for the most part their responsibility for this compared to 75 district in eight states the democrats control. republicans get to draw more than twice as many districts as a democrat there also ten states independent bipartisan commission that total 121 districts. there are six states with control that is split between a legislature of one party and the governor of the other. that adds up to 46 districts. then there are six states that only have a one district in this upcoming decade and do not need to divide their states into multiple seats. while six states are gaining members of congress texas, florida, north carolina, oregon montana colorado. seven states are losing a member of congress new york, pennsylvania, michigan, ohio, illinois and west virginia. when people move out of a state like illinois or west virginia, two states that loss of population or two states each losing a

of states. it wouldn't work in any other city. it's kind of a model of a metropolis in the area and the concern is kind of self-serving we if you put the cap on new orleans and we know cities are full of bribery and other things and so it's the gumbo in turkey. it's a speech that somebody gives regarding having the capitol in new orleans and all these applications going on and had anybody been bribed with a plate of gumbo here? they were ways to tease out the things we have been talking about i ran across. also in making it a legitimate point that americans in every state and that debating. >> baton rouge is has decided upon the capital and baton rouge remains the capitol of louisiana. the next topic i want to bring up is the constitutional crisis and that is really rising in the early 19th century but then with the secession of the southern states and the establishment of the confederacy based on a brand-new forum, this debate over the future of in the united states and what we have on display

printed and distributed to the states for ratification consideration at the state level. this is really make amazing rare survivor, 15 or so survived from 1787. this is the only one who still remains, the rest are institutional collections. it's a rare opportunity to seek a dunlop claypool printing on display and of course there's a lot of connection between the constitutional convention decides on and presents to the state between the connections between the revolutionary state constitution like massachusetts and pennsylvania we talked about. what are some of thehelv lessons constitutional convention learned from processing of creating constitution? can you share some interesting stories? >> a huge topic we won't be able to cover everything but there is a connection between what americans are doing at a state level in 1976 through the 1780s to 1877 i think one of the most fascinating questions in american history because as we see, americans are getting a lot of experience writing the constitution but it's for their states which is difficult enough, there are so many thi

if you're a state organization or a local organization in washington state or california state, what are the ways in which you can be talking about the importance of and supporting the effort around this policy? >> maura, why don't you go first, i'll follow you. >> sure. i think this event alone shows the importance of this issue and different groups that all care about this coming together and working together to spread this message. i think that a lot of what wade said about what folks on the ground, in states that really need this expansion, really applies to those who are in states that have also -- had already expanded. making sure you're contacting your member of congress, making sure you're telling them you care about this issue, that it is a matter of racial justice, it's a matter of health justice, and just because you have health insurance doesn't mean that the game is over. we need to press forward and make sure that we're all in this together. medicare covers everybody in this country regardless of state. medicaid should as well. >> maura, i think that's absolutely right.

of the morning important part of this is how lines are drawn from state tomp state and republicans get to draw the maps in 20 states totaling 187 districts because state legislatures for the most part are the ones that bear responsibility for this compared to 75 districts in eight states that democrats control so republicans control more than twice as many districts as democrats and there are also 10 states that use independent or bipartisan commission that total 121 districts and six states controlled the split between legislature of one party and the governor of the other so that adds up to 46 districts and then there are six states that only have one district in the upcoming decade and don't need to divide their states into multiple seats. >> six states are gaining members of congress, texas, florida, north carolina, oregon and colorado. seven are losing, new york, pennsylvania, michigan, ohio, illinois and west virginia. when people move out of a state like illinois or west virginia, two states that lost population, do they take their politics with them or are they moving out of fr

the size of the state department. the state department and diplomacy are essentially the relationship building part of how we deal with other nations. military represents hopefully a deterrent, but if necessary a coercive force. you want that to be your last option. unfortunately, we have it always prioritized, or built up, the infrastructure for diplomacy that were allowed -- that would allow us to reduce tensions and build alliances around the world to make sure we are in the strongest position in terms of allies and support. it is interesting you mentioned the number of diplomats china has committed they are -- there is right now an imbalance between the u.s. military positions around the world. china only has one military base outside of mainline -- mainland china, that's in djibouti. they are trying to get to other continents around the world, but the u.s. is far ahead of china in that respect. still, they have done a lot of work under their belt and wrote initiative to expand their alliances around the world. wh

basically by the time missouri is a state in 1818 they are to have the slave states in the free statesmed. there are two parts of the country the one part where slavery is on the way out and one part where slavery is growing and you don't agree on what the future is going to be so missouri is kind of, missouri is where they realized that and were they both reached for the same place. of course the title of the event attached as an amendment that says no further slaves and a lot of the white missourians reaction to that is. >> we got the recognizable commercial agriculture that craig described and recognize a lot of other states. agricultural community populated largely by southerners and we have all the factors that you mentioned, the war and the increase of slavery and economic factories and microcreations factors but this episode in missouri where it all comes to a head involves a number of major players. john quincy allen's, jon jay and you just mentioned james talmage. what is in fact a national conversation about what to do about missouri? >> i would say something larger than miss

i said to him from a qr united states senator, you happen to be elected by the people in your state, i am a united states congressman and i am not district congressman for the sixth congressional district, i am here for the people of caliphate south carolina and of the people in the united states of america and its incumbent upon the country to do what's necessary to expand and get rid of the gap and provide healthcare for all of our citizens. it's the same thing for voting, all states do not conduct themselves the same way so we have to be would ask a national problem and not allow healthcare to be out based upon not just where you live and that is a problem as well but what state you live in will determine your zip code as well. >> thank you so much. on that notion of history is a great informer, you recently wrote a blog entitled racial equity built back better package. can you explain what you meant by that and by closing this gap is a priority for this community? >> thank you for the question and let me say what an honor it is to be with you catalyst and congressman clyburn and

without in theg swing states we no longer have a democracy in the united states of america. we have these massive efforts. it was the then president of the united states and but for the fact we had an attorney general in pennsylvania and wisconsin and michigan and nevada we simply would not have had an outcome where the person who won those states so joe biden won the state of michigan by 154,000 votes. that's not even close. but effort t after effort wa made. whether it was joining with my democratic colleagues to ensure the global pandemic that people have the ability to even go to vote by mail they would never be received in time whether you had things b like the republican colleagues trying to decertify 5.5 million that would have been disenfranchised had that occurred to try to decertify the election and by d doing so november 4th of this year i will be arguing for the disbarment so people can never step into the court of law and make those unsupported completely and in doing so undermine our very democracy. that person would have gone along with of the lawsuit and it w

imperialism in your absence to draw what was initially what were the first states when the united states was developed draw a quick map of what to united states look like not expounding. i don't have those about how many states because i might tip them off but most of them do drugs in the continental i got them from them immediately, it is a subconscious memphis destiny that it will always be but of course it wasn't always to be it took more than 100 years of daily unrelenting warfare to march across the continent later invasion of mexico and annexation of half of mexico. in that time the continent was not sold until 1890 which is a marker of the massacre in 1890 is a moment when all native people were herded onto concentration camps guarded by army bases and later became reservations, this is something that can be mapped i don't think educators are telling students as or throwing them but it's so pervasive in the national consciousness the people in the united states that they see as having been that way, they immediately know they made a mistake and that can't be and it's a way of teac

the future of our state's estate. so this electionseason on november 2, i ask you to ask yourself are you better off today than you were four years ago . i ask for your vote. [applause]. >> thank you both and that brings us to the end of our debate. we thank the candidates for taking part . we hope tonight will help was helpful and informative to help you make your decision for. >> thank you to all the partners, new jersey advanced media , univision 41. . and for this beautiful facility tonight, i'm brian in philadelphia. >> i'm with w abc. we encourage you to exercise your right to vote on tuesday november 2,but not .

to ensure it targets states with a persistent pattern of discrimination, it captures the states that only meet a high numeric threshold of violation in the past 25 years, and that review period is critical. it is not frozen in time but rolls forward. jurisdictions without recent violations will automatically drop out. stronger tools are needed to address discrimination and other places and that is why it is important the bill also expands other national protections. as justice kagan observed, this is a perilous moment for the nation's commitment to equal citizenship. safeguarding our democracy and protecting voting rights is one of the most sacred responsibilities this body has. the house has passed the bill and now it's up to the senate to act without delay to pass the john lewis act and freedom to vote act. thank you. >> thank you. do we have attorney general roe kita? we are still waiting. mr. greenbaum, you may proceed for five minutes. >> thank you for giving me the opportunity to testify today on ways in which congress can restore and improve one of the nation's most important

state of palestine to introduce the head of state. >> thank you, mr. president. it is my pleasure to introduce to you, the recorded statesmen, of president mahmoud abbas of the state of palestine before the 67th general assembly. i wish you all success in confronting the challenges that we are facing in the world and in the state of palestine. thank you. pres. abbas: [speaking non-english language] translator: in the name of god the compassionate, your excellency, president of the united nations general assembly, your excellency, secretary-general of the united nations, excellencies, members of delegations, ladies and gentlemen. may the peace and mercy of god be upon you. this year marks the 73rd anniversary of the nexus. more than half of the palestinian people were uprooted from their land and disposed of their property. myself, my family, and many others still possess the deeds to our land. these deeds are registered as part of the united nations records. here is that deed. and many palestinians carry theirs as they still carry the keys to their hou

those states have already approved their plans, had those states been under preclearance before, they would then have 60 days to obtain, once they submit the plan to the federal justice department, the justice department would have had 60 days to -- in which to approve or reject the plan, but until that approval had been granted, the plans could not go into effect. that provided for a valuable tool for those who objected to plans because you couldn't use the plans. unlike now if you're challenging a racially discriminatory redistricting plan under either section 2 of the voting rights act which prohibits minority vote dilution or under the 14th amendment which bans racial gerrymandering or the packing of too many minority voters into a district, federal litigation can take at least two years. during that time, the plan that is being challenged would be used in the next election for the most part. stays could be issued against them but generally those plans could be used on an interim basis. it always depends on the timeline, the situation and when the next election is occurring. i hop

we fought in state after state and now have it in over two dozen states.the same time we did that just a small group of women broke up the hearing for the 18 rolled votes there finally be a hearing in the senate on the equal rights amendment for the reason it's taken so long, this 100 years as we lost about 50 of them. and i mean 50 bright wonderful leaders, how did we lose them? they botched it up inmmittee. they would not vote. in fact to get the first vote to ratify in the house took 50 years because it wasn't boxed up and the judiciary committee and they would not allow a vote. why would they allow a vote? this is not been so popular they knew it would pass overwhelmingly when it is placed on the floor. and when it was after a discharge petition and i had the pleasure to work with hereginning of my own career path 354 -- 24 people great overwhelmingly i would say. to get it going in the senate we disrupted the hearings of the 18-year-old vote. and got a promise a cosponsor in the senate or the major sponsor in the senate they would finally hold hearing

that kind of surveillance police state is a scary state of affairs. the judiciary committee's report on donald trump's attempt to use the doj to his own ends is a chilling thing to keep in mind when we are talking about the integrity of democracy and the next presidential election and frankly, the midterms leading up to that. in my view that will dictate what happens to the presidential election. host: that judiciary report issued last week. what we found out during this eight month investigation, how close do you think we came at the end of 2020, beginning of 2021 to a full-blown constitutional crisis? guest: we absolutely were probably there. we were there. i live outside washington dc. i was appalled watching people literally climbing over and desecrating the capitol. we have elected officials running for their lives, as well as those of their staff, many republicans still met and what was a ceremonial process of recognizing the state's certifications of their electors. that is something states do, they hand it to the congress. the january 6 moment

of state. i know the hard work that goes into running our elections. state and local officials are responsible for ensuring that our elections are run effectively and i think do a great job of taking on the responsibility of making sure that people have confidence in what happens at the end of that election day. for more than 200 200 yearss have been responsible for elections, state and local election officials worked tirelessly often managing multiple elections in the year, sometimes different jurisdictions, the same day with jurisdictional boundaries that meet, but just throws another complication into the challenges of local election officials have. they deal with the logistics that those elections bring, and i'm grateful to them for doing that. our role in congress is to support states and their administration of elections and give them the help they need to innovate and serve the needs of their citizens. this type of work can be done in a bipartisan manner, and historically that's exactly

but is significant not only to the state's cattle industry but the state's ecology. whether on private land or public land ranchers have had to make hard decisions in order to reduce numbers, to prevent overgrazing and encourage regrowth of needed grasses. because the brand expection program, had a chance to see these decisions play out in real time. many reduced their heard sizes because the forage simply isn't there. we've seen a 24% increase in sales this year with north dakota ranchers selling 148,000 cows as of july, the average for an entire year is 200,000. it is a painstaking decision for families because it is not only the foundation of the heard the generations of selection and improvement that cannot be replicated overnight. there are other threats too, fire is the most widespread and distractive. fires have burned 6 million acres and 125,000 across north dakota. nearly double that of last year. fire and drought impact livestock and our ability to steward the land. ranchers prioritize retention for our livestock but also critical in feeding wildlife, provi

and reporting at least seven additional states. in addition, experts project the economic impact over $90 billion making it the seventh costliest hurricane to hit the united states since the year 2000. seven hurricanes each responsible for $90 billion in economic impact all within 20 years. like all major storms, it will teach a lot including what works and what does not work and while we can all be thankful for the engineering protected as one of the most vital systems from the destruction we must also recognize that until we address the root causes the u.s. will continue to face natural disasters and increasing severity and intensity leaving more devastating impacts and that's why we need to dramatically reduce the greenhouse gas emissions while we reduce investments andnd resiliency and create a lot of jobs while doing so. the prevention is worth a pound of cure and here is where it's still ringing the truth today. the corps of engineers provides tremendous value to the nation as a primary product with the resources infrastructu

the lower basin states. in contrast the upper basin we've taken shortages nearly every year for 20 years. without that large reservoir we are reliant on current runoff. it's for this reason the upper basin uses are variable. when the snow is abundant, water is available but when the snow is thin, the water isn't there and the users go without. a perfect example of the impact of climate change. having increased absorption of snowmelt and reduced spring runoff this year has been especially difficult. 90% of the state is experiencing drought. an example of the difficult situations that colorado is dealing with a major storage project in southwestern colorado received only one tenth of its water allocation this year and due to the compounding years of shortages, people across the state are considering heartbreaking decisions. there's sociological and economic impacts to the community. the water shortages facing southwest colorado the last two years felt heavily on the tribes whose economy and communities depend

the united states has led the world in reducing emissions. we've reduced emissions more than the next 12 emissions reducing countries combined. during that period as we've led the world in reducing emissions and bringing energy solution to the table, for every one ton of emissions we've reduced china increased by four. as we continue out of the quandary there will be a 50% increase on global demand moving forward. we've got to be aware of that and make sure the solutions we make available, that they're abundant and affordable because some of these third world countries are not going to take up on affordable and more expensive energy solutions, so really, really thoughtful process forward really deliberate in making sure that it's based upon u.s. resources to where we can continue leading the world in energy innovation in solving this problem we're facing. host: the president is headed at the end of the week to the u.s. climate change summit and you're going as well with a group of republicans. what will be your role? guest: it's important for

the majority of the state's population lives in the southern half of the state and the coast. coastal louisiana sits at the epicenter of climate change. sea level rise and subsidence coexist as threats for both the corps and the state. consequentially my major missions are navigation, coastal storm risk management, and flood risk management. flooding of any kind, whether from rainfall, storm surge, or river rain flooding or in what has been occurring on more frequent bass, the occurrence of all three at the same time is a major concern for the state and for my district. the men and women of my district are residents of south louisiana. during a storm, they endure the same impacts as their neighbors. for them working with our partners to ensure a promising future in coastal louisiana is not just a professional responsibility. it is a personal commitment. during ida, almost a third of my 1,100 person work force evacuated out of state, to include my wife and children. almost all of us lost power, and almost half saw some form of damage to their homes with 37 of us experiencing so

we've watched state after state, put in place, the subversion of our elections. they have done so by saying that you can remove elect soon workers. that you can throw out provisional, ballots that are from out of precincts, we have seen, layer upon layer, of attempting to subvert elections, starting now. as a buildup to what could happen in 24. and that is why, the freedom to vote acts, in the john moore's voting advancement acts are so critical. this is not going to be like a movie, where the villain, announces his intention and by the end of the movie, he has been thwarted. this is a slow-moving, but very aggressive and, relentless attempts to undermine our democracy. using our very laws against us. and we are watching the insurrection play out in every single state capital, entertaining these laws. allowing votes to be cast out, and allowing the election workers to protect those, votes to be denied protection in their right to do their job. >> the way that republican leaders, i mean there's some that just go all, out like judgmental i just saw a clip of him ru

jersey state emergency centers. subject matter experts and water removal and on watering information for the pennsylvania dot. fema regions 2, 3 and the states they supported, pennsylvania, new jersey and new york were satisfied with our proactive approach to this event. in the aftermath of superstorm sandy, congress asked us to prepare a performance report. that and other work following sandy has heightened our intent to build resilience into our coastal storm risk management and flood risk management projects. together with our federal and nonfederal partners, we are currently completing post norm evaluations to determine impact and develop efficiency reports for projects. initial assessment showed damages incurred to project elements which will require an investment in repairs. in addition to maintenance on these projects, in some cases, corps recommends a comp or hence of assessment of their status to include review of performance criteria and recommendation for updating based on current science, recent storm ev

wealth and power of the united states and because the united states is in a relatively positive positionpared to other countries in the world. but, already, within a generation from now, other very large, very important countries in the world, which are much more vulnerable to climate change, will be coming out of the kind of stress which may destroy states and organized societies, not just because they are more vulnerable to high temperatures, are already suffering from high temperatures, they are vulnerable to water shortages because they are underwater stress, but also because you have a range of weak and dysfunctional states who are already suffering social and ethnic conflicts. if you add climate change to that, and the pentagon itself noted that climate change is a force multiplier in that view, you will see breakdowns, including in society, which will generate huge waves of migration to the united states and europe. we know what a reaction against that can do to our political system. host: and in the containable category -- you mentioned that word -- do you believe that is happeni

so, it is more republican states than democratic states.states had republican control then democratic control. host: is it unusual that there are so few controls in the 50 states? guest: it is. this is the lowest number that have existed in the u.s. -- and has been over a hundred years since we have seen such a split. host: would that be a sign of how polarized the country is? guest: i think that is a fair characterization. people are moving around. people are moving from place to place. people might be sorting themselves. this is something -- the big sort is one of them. it postulates this theory that americans are moving into places with people who agree with them politically. i doubt that is the only factor. people also change their view as well. host: 1.2 more calls. this is julia. good morning. caller: good morning. this call is in reference to the new york times newspaper, october 12, 2021, in reference to people who were incarcerated and had done their time, and they were given a bill to vote. host: julia, we will take up the idea of

these include how states help themselves, how we help one another, and the state federal partnership. first, states help themselves by understanding fema as a natural first responder, and by maintaining a good working relationship with our local emergency managers. according to data from a report with our local counterparts, in fiscal year 2020, state and local emergency management organizations managed 19700 and 52 events without federal assistance. additionally, 27 states maintain their own state-funded assistance programs to help citizens and businesses when a disaster or emergency does not meet the criteria for federal assistance. second, states help one another through efforts such as the emergency management assistance compact. celebrating its 2050 or of service, emac has deployed 40,000 personnel in state assistance since 2060 -- 2016 alone. it was emac during the 2016 republican national convention that trained and equipped officers and other states to assist in managing the significant event. finally, the federal state partnership is one of the bed rocks of emergency manageme

in terms of the states that law states, california, illinois, michigan, west virginia -- all states that lost a seat in the latest we apportionment. an effort to create new maps in states across the country. then williams is joining us to talk about it. we are taking your phone calls for this last half-hour of washington journal. republicans, the number -- then williams, what is the biggest problem that -- been -- ben williams, what is the biggest problem? >> the timeline is one of the biggest issues. there is a more public awareness than there has been in the past. the public wants to be engaged. we are trying to figure out how to take all that input. whether it be a hearing or something set up by the legislature, archive and consolidate it in a systemic way , rather than looking at 10,000 pieces of input and not being able to paint a picture of what is being told. >> what is your advice, coming up against that time crunch? especially when courts play a role. we are looking at stories like this. the redistricting plan. that is also going to affect the timeline, coming up on a ticking cl

it's happening in my state and virtually every other state. at this moment state legislators, county commissions are help drawing lines that will help determine who the american people elect to represent them in congress and in their state capitols. for the first time since the days of dr. king's march in washington, congressional, state and local government ledge s slative districts will be drawn without the key preces of the voting rights act. because in 2013 the supreme court issued its 5-4 decision shelby county vs. holder. that section 5 required localities with records of discrimination against voters of color through racist policies like poll taxes and literary tests to ensure any changes to rules were vetted by the justice department before they could be enforced. this requirement is known simply as preclearance and applied to redistricting. but that preclearance requirement, the guarantee of accountability to the voters and adherence to the law is by the supreme court and shelby. as today's witness assistant attorney general clark has

he was beloved at the state department. he had just the respect and loyalty of everyone who worked there and it had nothing to do with policy or politics. it had everything to do with who he was as a man and as a leader. and that was -- i think just remarkable to witness firsthand and something which really stuck with us. he had all sorts of principles and rules which he lived by and which he expected all of us to live by, but what was really instructive, i think for those of us in policy positions working for him was he held himself to account far more stringently than anyone else. i think that was an object lesson for anyone who passed through his orbit. >> colonel jacobs, you share the vietnam experience with secretary powell. you both served. what are your feelings this morning about this loss, and what will you remember most about his leadership? >> well, great sadness. he was a towering figure. you know, he went to college, city college in new york, and studied geology. he was introduced to me when i was a battalion e

just remember talking about states that used to pay from the state conference for people of color too to school somewhere else and then they reinforce that to pay a stipend to get that law degree that you want. >> i have to say we actually have the quotation of the martin luther king quotation about the greatest injustices being lack of access to healthcare so when people come in including staff, they will remind us that now why of our work in the connection and the broader fight. you have to leave at 10:30 a.m. i want to make sure that we are getting some questions from our audience. so first from politico says that she's asking if you are hearing of pressure to cut back on the top line number of the reconciliation bill comes down would you be open to a later start date or other changes to trim the cost? >> yes. i am open to anything. i believe we have to take into consideration the whole welfare retirement. a lot of things of the civil rights act in 1964 we get the civil rights act in the civil rights act did talk about discrimination in employment of the private sector not until 1

china or the united states. we have seen a linkage between the controlled corporate media now the social media systems massive disruption in our fundamental rights creation of the national security act the patriot act the national defense authorization act. so when you look at these two organisms whether it's the chinese reality or the american reality, the american people are not understanding what is developing. and all of this theater we're witnessing is nothing but a bunch of nonsense to rationalize more military more control more foundations more military platforms to destroy the democracy of america. the american people truly need to wake up and demand repeal of the national security act. we're arbitrarily putting our own citizenry in jail based on lies. host: i'm going to jump in. what about the main argument there? guest: the question of how the united states and chinera or democracies and authoritarian societies are responding to the impact of technology on societies and government is a really critical

washington state has already said every public sector worker in washington state has to be vaccinated. that is why they fired the football coach at washington state university. other states like texas and florida are under federal osha's jurisdiction and the state government agencies and local government agencies are osha-fre e zones. it is unfortunate but those workers have no right to a safe workplace. host: the head state -- the head could touch -- the head football coach at washington state was fired after refusing vaccines under state mandate. several other assistant coaches as well. wilmington, north carolina, we will hear from alexis. caller: good morning. i have a question. i did not pay attention to your name but you are the osha man. host: david michaels. guest: call me the osha man. caller: i would like to know -- i think you were sort of explaining it, but there is this big hubbub in chicago. mayor lightfoot has said anybody that is not showing up for duty with covid vaccine credentials can't work, and i think the fraternal order of police have weighed in. how does osha fi