please join inof welcoming admil stavridis. [applause] >> thank you, sir. >> what we will do tonight is a bit different for audience here and her audience watching on c-span. would ask the admiralty questions and want to make it a little bit broader. i i do not have a copy of his memoir the accident admiral but my first question, i've never asked you why did you call it the accidental admiral? >> anybody who really follows the navy knows the place you would end up in the navy is a 4-star is the pacific. you want to be out there where halsey amendments and all the great naval admirals and i was kind of dragged into go into the pacific, and then secretary of defense bob gates called up and said, we need you to go to europe and work at maeda. i said mr. secretary, i don't really know much about nato or europe. i said i'm a pacific guy. that did not win him over, and so i felt this was kind of an accident that i ended up in europe. secondly, because all of our lives are accidents. all of our lives, the big turns come we can never p

admiral stavridis, let me start with you. you heard secretary of state pompeo say the world is safer today. do you agree with that? what should the american military be braced for right now? >> i think tactically it's haths safer because soleimani is dead. that's a tactical function. i think strategically, however, we are entering a period in which almost certainly, george, we're going to see a continuing ladder of escalation. so, tactically we're safer for taking that particular chess piece off the board. i really don't see where ourstr going to take us, her than into increasing levels of violence, unfortunately. what should the u.s. military be prepared for? i would start by saying, worry about what's at sea, our ships in the arabian gulf. they have cruise missiles, they can use mines, that's a potential strike point. secondly, the use of proxy forces around the region against u.s. forces from afghanistan, all the way to the shores of the mediterranean sea, and i think thirdly, george, i'd draw a line under cyber. i think t

that could be very damaging for us. >> admiral james stavridis, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thanks, brian. >>> coming up for us, is our gentle reminder that impeachment is still there, still around, a trial is still pending? we'll look at the state of play and timing after this. (sensei) when i started cobra kai, the lack of control over my business made me a little intense. but now quickbooks helps me get paid, manage cash flow, and run payroll. and now i'm back on top... with koala kai. (vo) save over 40 hours a month with intuit quickbooks. >>> i don't give the house advice, but i'll tell you what i think. i fully expect that we're going to be in an impeachment trial very soon. >> like days? >> i think it's going to be days. that's what my gut is it telling me. >> that was interesting coming from tim kaine. the senate trial can't begin until speaker pelosi hands over the articles of impeachment. she's still refusing to do that, saying she needs to see what the arena in the senate is going to be first. but a growing number of democrats are saying enough is enough. ther

. >> let's talk about all of it because back with us tonight is admiral james stavridis, retired withour stars on his shoulders, former head of the u.s. southern command, former supreme allied commander of, wait for it, nato. his recent book is "sailing true north: ten admirals and the voyage of character." so admiral, what are the chances nato is going to cancel whatever weekend plans they had and drop everything to respond to this assignment from their friend, the president of the united states. >> you know, in life, brian, you reap what you sow. president trump has been so denigrating of nato throughout his campaign as well as his first three years as president. people are not going to be leaping to attention to generate the operational plans. but the folks at nato, both the u.s. folks there -- we have a terrific u.s. ambassador to nato. you know her, former senator bailey hutchinson. we have a terrific four-star air force general who's in my old job, general todd walters. folks are smart and they are going to take this opportunity to start creating some ideas for deployments to th

back with us tonight, admiral james stavridis. he's a 30-year veteran of the u.s. navy who retired with four stars on his shoulders. he's the former head of the u.s. southern command and former supreme allied commander of nato. his recent book is "sailing true north: ten admirals and the voyage of character." admiral, i have to say when i read this story and i'm fairly confident there's more like it in the book, i thought about two impacts. the very deep personal impact it would have on those in the room with many stars on their shoulders themselves, but also the impact externally. the world hears this stuff, and if our enemies heard the way our guy spoke to our men and women. the indeed the authors talk about this, and i quote further from them. this is about the people in the room. they tried not to reveal their revulsion on their faces, but questions raced through their minds. how does the commander in chief say that, one thought. what would our worst adversaries think if they knew he said this? admiral, your reaction? >> well, first to all the military officers

. >> well, admiral james stavridis, what's the military see as the options here in terms of stabilizing what could be an unstable model right now? in other words, we all go to war? >> great question, chris. first of all, we all ought to be very thankful we didn't have any of our servicemen and women -- we got over 40,000 troops in the region, many of them in very risky positions. so let's his pause for a second and say thank god we didn't lose anybody last night. chris, in terms of what to watch for next, let's all hope that both sides are going to see this as quite literally the last exit before the tunnel, but if not, watch for a militia to come after u.s. forces forward, kind of a little bit of deniability. look for activity in the arabian gulf, at sea, coming after our ships and a big shoe that hasn't dropped yet that a lot of us thought would drop is cyber, cyber security, offensive cyber. there's still a lot of cards in the hand to play here. i was struck by the supreme leader's comment that this was a slap in the face, there is more to come. on the other hand, we've seen indicati

. >>> let's bring in ali arouzi this morning and our analyst, retired naval admiral, james stavridis. ali, i will start with you. we heard that iran took and concluded its measures in retaliation for the killing of soleimani. soleimani. do you believe this is the end of iran's response >> reporter: well, savannah, the situation is very fluid. the attack was brazen but well-timed and calibrated not to invite some sort of massive reprisal as soon as they finish those attacks, iran started to put messages out, if the u.s. doesn't retaliate, that's it they're not going to attack anymore. and there wasn't an attack on iran and iran didn't attack anymore after that shortly, a couple of hours after the attacks were all finished, the supreme leader, the highest authority in iran, gave a speech to an audience at his compound and he said this attack was just a slap in the face for america meaning revenge for his right-hand man, qassem soleimani. in that speech, he reiterated three or four times, that iran's main objective is to get the united states out of this entire region. and he won't rest

jamil: admiral stavridis is right.rically they have been looking at things like financial services, energy, oil and gas, health care, the government itself, so institutions that have a significant impact publicly and are seen as having an impact publicly. part of this is perception of -- for the iranians to be responding to something here. those industries are likely to be looked at. they are some of the best defended industries, so the key to a defense is about individual companies working together, and ultimately industry and government working together. chris said on twitter something that is very important, the dhs needs to step up and share actual information with the private sector to defend the private sector. taylor: how advanced has the iran coding and hackers gotten, and are we prepared for it? jamil: i think we are prepared. that being said, the iranians have gotten a lot better a lot faster. the chinese, the russians, and bus have always been the best at this game. the iranians and north koreans are newer a

. >>> let's bring in james stavridis. he served as the supreme allied commander of nato. now an nbc news analyst. admiral, good morning. it's good to see you this morning. >> same here, savannah. >> let's look at the images this morning coming in from tehran. what richard engel reported was millions of people crowding this funeral procession how much pressure are the leaders in iran under to retaliate and retaliate in a big way? >> they're under massive pressure as you heard, this is a level of demonstration we haven't seen since the great revolution, if you will, in iran. let's say hypothetically there's a million people marching in e tehran in a population-adjusted basis, savannah, compared to the united states, that would be like 8 million people demonstrating in washington, d.c. we've never seen demonstrations like that. this is a big deal in tehran, obviously. >> what do you expect the iranian leaders to do? there's obviously a menu of options there, asymmetrical warfare. they have proxies, people where they can have deniable meanwhile, our president is saying, if yo

. >> admiral stavridis, it's always a pleasure to have you on the broadcast.thanks for joining us again this friday night. >> my pleasure, brian. see you next time. >>> coming up, they are the voters that trump tries to claim, but the numbers are telling a different story. we'll be back with the politics of this right after this. r thisn listening to audible. it's audiobooks, news, meditations... gotta go! ♪ hey! you know, i do think it's weird you've started commuting when you work from home. i'll be in my office. download audible and start every day off right. (mom vo) we got a subaru to give him some ato reconnect and be together. and once we did that, we realized his greatest adventure is just beginning. (vo) welcome to the most adventurous outback ever. the all-new subaru outback. go where love takes you. conditions are protected. vo: a broken promise. trump repeatedly tried to undermine coverage for 134 million americans with pre-existing conditions. mike: "he just doesn't care if you have a pre-existing condition he wants to deny you access to coverage.

admiral james stavridis talked about how suggesting -- he felt confident that the military would not carry out targets, bombings, for example, on culturally important landmarks because it would violate international law, it would violate a potential war crime. are you confident that's something that won't happen? >> let me say first of all that the united states is one of the greatest powers on the planet, not only because of the capacity to crush the opponents but we value humanity. part of that humanity is that we value cultural sites and restrain ourselves as americans and who we are as a nation. so when you go to war like this, you have a target of list that and you have a restricted target lists and then you have a list that has do not target on it. typically, that list is filled with cultural sites so that we don't explicitly or inadvertently target the sites and it's a war crime to attack those sides. we can get past the bombast of the president and owl of the gloating about american power destroying cultural sites but in the end, my hope is that the military chain of command

but as general stavridis said, it is really the idea that all of these unintended consequences, it'snot really clear what the president thought out what the strategy is right now. and certainly, you know, the goal, and you've been hearing the president say for the last year that he wanted to get iran to the table, that a lot of this was to change iran's calculus in terms of moving them back to some kind of productive discussion. you know, it kind of fails to see how that does that right now. >> and the president is well-known for the way he speaks, the way he writes online. but this is conducting foreign policy, and it is shaping how his own allies in the country speak. we just got in some brand-new reaction from a senior republican senator that would appear to normalize or at least, you know, minimize the president's very brazen threat to break international law, to attack cultural sites. we were talking about this earlier today. one of the reasons when you visit places like jerusalem that you can see these amazing sites of great religious significance to multiple faiths is partly b

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one of the great telling points for me on friday was admiral stavridis.joint naval exercises, russia, your china, and iran in the gulf of hormuz. the moves of u.s. policy in the malisse is strengthening russia, and frankly iran's hand in the region. seeing less policy in iran and iraq and syria driving political risk across the region that will have political and economic detrimental effects for that region as well. there are three key risks here. first you have the risk of lethal conflict with iran. ofh a 55 percent chance escalation between the u.s. and iran. second, there is a risk of the iraq state being either in iran's orbit or being at risk for -- tom: we really have seen that in the last 24 hours. this has been the story overnight sunday into monday. meredith: the u.s. is becoming persona non grata in iraq. looking at tying into china as well, reaffirm for us the linkage of the silk road of china. of yes,the linkage russia, but more china with a struggling iran? henry: it is an important issue to look at, frankly because the chinese have long seen

coming up, we will drive forward this conversation on the nation's international relations 8:00james stavridisloomberg "surveillance." a new ceo of bed, bath & beyond is trying to get the bad news out of the way first, shares plunging after it withdrew its financial guidance. the ceo says it's underperformance underscores the need for change and he will have turnaround plans. an unsolicited takeover offer from xerox. they say it significantly undervalues the company. ofox lined up $24 billion financing. chase sapphire reserve credit card is about to get more expensive. jp morgan will boost the fee from $450 to $550. the bank will add new works. -- perks. users will get a $125 credit on doordash. francine: we were talking about the middle east, talking about iran and the u.s. one other thing we are trying to figure out if there is a standoff between the u.s. and iran, can it get worse quickly? ayham: absolutely, and part of the problem is it is difficult to anticipate what the iranians and americans want to do. president trump assassinated qasem soleimani and the iranians did something symbolic

retired four star navy admiral james stavridis, analyst for nbc news and msnbc. u.s.editor at "the financial times" edward lose. admiral, let's begin with you. the common reaction among policy officials, opinion leaders in the united states and across the west last night was that soleimani is a bad man with the blood of americans and other allies all over him, and yet many, many concerns about an escalating conflict with iran that could lead to a war, about the ramifications of an administration not thinking through this policy and, of course, for those who are concerned about the united states constitution, the fact that the united states of america last night had a president who approved the killing of the second ranking public official in another country that we were not at war at. we will let you unsort that. tell us your chief concerns this morning. >> well, let's start where you did, joe, which is soleimani is an evil person many . he is a villain. we are better off tactically for his piece being taken off the chess board. he was smart. he constructed very cleve

admiral james stavridis and courtney kube thank you both. >>> still ahead on "morning joe," joe biden's foreign policy message, plus senator elizabeth warren joins the conversation. we will talk about her presidential campaign and the emerging ad war between president trump and michael bloomberg. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ill be ri. trump: obamacare is a complete and total disaster. let obamacare implode. nurse: these wild attacks on healthcare hurt the patients i care for. i've been a nurse in new york for thirty years. i know the difference leadership can make because i saw what mike bloomberg did as mayor. vo: mayor bloomberg helped lower the number of uninsured by 40%, covering 700,000 more new yorkers, life expectancy increased. he helped expand health coverage to 200,000 more kids and upgraded pediatric care--- infant mortality rates dropped to record lows. and as mayor, mike bloomberg always championed reproductive health for women. so when you hear mike bloomberg on health care... mrb: this is america. we can certainly afford to make sure that everybo