specification number two, steaped 5-0. specification number three. eight videos involved. sustained 5-0. specification number four, there were two videos involved. sustained 5-0. specification number five, there were six videos involved, not sustained. two votes. in favor, sustained, three votes opposed. so we'll now move into the penalty phase with respect to the specifications that were sustained. i'm sorry. it is getting late. i can't remember how -- who went first last time. i think we ought to have the department -- five minutes. >> the issues here with respect to penalty are very similar to the issues that you saw in previous case with officer -- one of the things a makes officer lewis' case distinguishable from hers which justifies a higher penalty in his case is he has been with the department much longer. she had been the department only 10. there is an argument to be made that he had a relationship with officer cohen that put him at more distance. she was engaged to cohen. lewis was just an old friend so there are a lot of reasons to believe that officer lewis sh