steel headquartered in my district and being part of the steel caucus. i have to admit, i was a little confused when i called up my friends at u.s. steel, one of the largest u.s. steel manufacturers and asked them how much of that 800,000 tons of steel in the keystone pipeline were they getting. they told me they were getting zero, u.s. steel didn't have a single order for the keystone pipeline. i was puzzled. i had talked to my friends at the steelworkers union to find out why they aren't more supportive of this project because of all the steel involved. i found out you're not going to see any steelworkers on this job either. that confused me. i thought there must be a mistake. trans canada touting 75% of the steel in this project in america, either canada or the united states. so i tried to reach out to trans canada and ask them clarifying information. i know yesterday in opening statements my good friend tim murphy, we sit on the steel caucus together was touting the wonderful effects of jobs created in our country in the steel industry. i share that

steel in the pipe that they make. i'm just curious why none of these companies had a shot at some of this steel in the keystone pipeline, and my amendment very simply says let's certify this 75% claim or stop making claims that you can't back up with facts. and with that i yield back my time. >> the gentleman yield back. anyone over here wish to speak? the gentleman from alabama, mr. scalise. >> thank you. i think it's important to note that the jobs we're talking about being brought about by ski stone, if you look at this amendment, and i'm not sure if the gentleman was aware that all the pipe was already purchased, but under that amendment, they wouldn't be able to go forward with keystone because they already bought the steel. and, in fact, as we were told, half of the steel for the project was sourced from a u.s.-based mill in little rock, arkansas. in fact, we've already heard from our colleagues in arkansas that say they're laying off people already in arkansas because the president refuses to approve keystone.

and it's not good having a soft steel column. >> steel loses its strength. >> it loses its strength inires. so this is to protect that. with the fire suppression system, so that the firemen have four hours to get here here. >> we have a teem column. this stuff is sprayed -- steel column. this stuff is blue, this particular building owner uses blue to show this is noncontaminated fire protection without asbestos. one of the big costs of retrofitting high rise buildings when you have to open it up like this is you have possible asbestos contamination and it's a big area to put the area into containment and to mitigate. >> they paint it blue because they really want to make sure everybody knows, this is not asbestos. >> okay. there's another way to do field fire protection. there's a kind of paint. and it's been used for the last 50 year or more. you can paint on steel, it's quite excessive -- expensive, it is fire proof paint. you have to protect all of the industrial elements except for those which are only for earthquakes. the presumption is, you're not having an earthquake at the same

steel manufacturers. so i reached out to the permit applicant, transcanada, and several other sources to try to get some clarifying information to find out where this 75% of steel used in the keystone pipeline directly outsourced from north america would be. unfortunately, the best answer i could get seems to be there is a single pipe manufacturer in little rock, arkansas that's providing most of the steel for this pipeline. now, the trouble with that is the manufacturer doesn't actually use u.s. or north american steel to make their pipes. in fact, the little rock plant very clearly told me that they make their pipe out of foreign steel. in fact, they have already imported 148 miles of ready made pipe from india. so that's sitting on their block right now. and the rest of the steel for which they will make pipe is sitting there in slabs in little rock comes from foreign sources, not from the united states, not canada. they take those slabs and they heat them up and they're going to bend them and make pip

>> stainless steel. >> you add chromium to steel. >> you get stainless steel. >> why do we use steeln. >> they used to use iron many years ago almost exclusively. steel is actually stronger than iron. it also handles -- and it doesn't rust. it is stronger and it handles compression and some other things better than iron by itself does. so that is why it is used in building. iron, justify so you know -- well, it's been around for ever. it is in the earth. mankind very early on in civilized society discovered it and started working with it, making rudimentary tools. >> weapons. >> weapons. they made weapons out of it. and as capability came along to be able to heat up the iron, create furnaces, blast furnaces, that is when you were able to really shape it and make a whole brunch of different things. >> why is superior man known as the man of steel and not the man of iron. >> and why do you have all the questions. did he do all the work? >> lately, tucker has been doing it. >> you kind of stole my thunder because i was going to ask about iron man. >> superman would be able to beat iron

but two specific loopholes have enabled states to buy chinese steel instead of american steel, and ship jobs out of the country. first, we should close the freight rail loophole in our buy america laws. the industrial might of this nation was built on american railroads made from american steel. as we update and improve that freight rail system, it is only right that those bridges and tracks continue to be made in america. this summer, construction of a

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people lived all around the steel mill and company towns in some senses. but just in neighborhoods like the breyer hill neighborhood where all the italian immigrants settled and would walk down in to work. and it was a bustling place. now it was dirty. the wives were sweeping the porches twice, sometimes three times a day because the soot would come out of the steel mill. so it was a much different world. today youngstown is a tale of two cities, like many cities. youngstown has a burgeoning tech community, entrepreneur magazine said youngstown was one of the top ten best cities to start a business. we have a business incubator with over 300 worker there's. the average wage is about $58,000 a year doing a lot of business-to-business software. some of the fastest growing companies in the country in education software and green technologies, companies like turning technologies that these tech magazines ranked a few years ago as the fastest growing tech companies. we have general motors invested millions of dollars along with state incentives and governor str

for toothbrushes, for steel. for pantyhose. for anyone that makes that product here in the united states. why do i make the amendment? that oil sent overseas that will give other countries an ability to have this oil. you know, the gas industry simultaneously right now has seven licenses to export natural gas from our country. want to hear another big number? the price of natural gas in the united states right now is half the price of europe. that helps every manufacturer in our country. the price of natural gas in america is four times lower than . helps all of american industry, all of american consumers with much lower prices in the manufacture of steel, of pantyhose, of everything else and it is a big competitive advantage. what does the natural gas and oil industry want? they want to build terminals all around our country to create a world price for natural gas. that hurts us. we are the saudi arabia of natural gas. what is this all about? it's part of the same story. how do we export the oil that comes down from canada, t

making steel, i was a steel worker. not then, but i followed all this stuff. there was a climber for 3.5% wage increase over the contract, and i don't think that's too much. we need unions to represent people because people are the ones that create wealth. companies do not create wealth, they move wealth around. and what you've seen in the recent past, especially in the last 12 years, is that wealth has been moved all the way to -- all over asia, let's say, 2 billion people, right? which is good for them in the long run and it's very bad for us in the long run also. and the immediate is that people suffer here. so let's make another comparison. you know, when this economy was going down to hell -- pardon my language -- interest rates was getting up to 27, 30% interest, stuff like that, you know what that proves? that people weren't paying their debts. and when people manipulate money, they get greedier and greedier. >> let's hear from our guest. >> i think we've seen long-term trends that have made it very difficult for

steel in the project. let's not make people think this is like the greatest thing since apple pie and ice cream. >> i'm going to reclaim my time. let me assert, there's no leap frogging here. we're only here today because the president denied the permit under his authority. he killed the project, just like the sierra club and nrdc asked him to do. when they sent their notice to congress, pursuant to the law on this, they said it wasn't on the merit. it wasn't on the merit. they just needed more time because nebraska's little 50-mile loop, or whatever it's going to be, the reality is they had time and the president ignored that. we heard testimony from the state department, we had a decision by the 31st. because nebraska, because nebraska, because nebraska we had to kill it. bull. they had all the time they needed on nebraska. so the reality is everything that they said isn't -- that they needed is sitting right here and will be part of what ferc bases their decisions on as well. the information there, they

meantime, steel makers u.s. steel and allegheny technologies shed 5% and 4% respectively, even though they have been expecting steel prices to improve this year. cliffs natural, an iron ore producer, a key fuel for steel furnaces, slid three and a half percent. the new york stock exchange unveiled plans to grow its business without selling itself to the deutsche boerse in germany. that buyout was derailed over anti-trust issues. the nyse will invest in technology and clearing, that's the business of making sure a buyer and seller can fulfill their obligations. the plan came after the exchange reported a better than expected fourth quarter. profits were driven by its tech services and clearing businesses, areas it will continue to focus on. the strategy helped push nyse stock up 4.5%. futures exchanges c-m-e group and the inter-continenal group rallied more than two percent each. remember alcatel-lucent? it was a high flier in the dot- com days and it has rallied strongly this year including a pop today and very

in new process steel, they appealed and the 7th circuit court of appeals. the primary issue resolved by the court was whether or not the nlrb could issue an administrative decision with two members resolving the case. the statue contemplates a full compliment of five board members. one of who is the chairman. section 3-b of the act permits the board to relegate its authority to a panel of three members. when the administrative decision was made in new process steel entered, two were in place, the chairman and one member. the supreme court said in order for it to issue a viable decision, at least three individuals must compose the board itself. it is official action taken by an nlrb composed of two or fewer individuals is ultraverous and cannot be enforced. the court rendered this decision despite the fact that the two-person board resolved almost 600 cases and fully appreciating the board's argument that it had the desire to keep its doors open. the court concluded that the statute did not permit the agency to, quote, create a tale that would not only wag t

done yet so what's going to happen in this situation does it mean that there will be a surplus of steel left in russia well in a normal month iran will take around three hundred thousand tonnes of semi finished and finished products from russia billets business. more than that at the moment none of it is been sold to iran simply because there is no payment and. well theoretically there could be oversupply of exports experts would be logically directed to the backseat where the situation is quite tight already why. males are not able to lower their selling prices by because of the high costs the bars are not able to pay more because of the economic situation in the world the demand is quite bad there is genoa supply in the world we have about two billion. tonnes of capacity is produce about one point five we produced one point five billion tonnes this year so twenty five percent is already in surplus and. there is there is a general global oversupply of still right but how much of the problem good before i mean you were just saying about this big problem it could be a problem for actions

it's the american steel union, which is the largest steel union in america. it represents not only steel workers but workers in the rubber, auto glass, parts, paper, and also some manufacturers that have a collective bargaining arrangement with the steel workers in the steel and in the rubber industries in particular. >> phone number is on the bottom of the screen for our guests. we're going to hear from the president in a minute on manufacturing, but we look forward to your calls for scott paul. you had mentioned the inserts in today's paper sort of goes along with the big rather dramatic ad during the super bowl last night featuring clint eastwood. here assess, usa today's version of the supplement, "it's halftime in america." what does he say and what do you say? >> they interpret it as a campaign ad in some ways, but certainly there are nuances to it. chrysler last year did this m&m ad, and this is an extension of that. we're back on our feet, we've taken the punch and we can move forward. you've seen a lot of this on madison avenue. you've seen this focu

steel maker out there that is making all or some of the steel for the keystone x.l. pipeline i think we have a right to know about it. mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman reserves. for what purpose does the gentleman from kentucky seek recognition? >> i seek recognition to oppose the amendment. the chair: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized for five minutes. >> i yield myself three minutes. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. >> first of all, i would like to say to the gentleman of pennsylvania that, who's a very hardworking member of the energy and commerce committee and provides great leadership, that we reluctantly oppose his amendment. mr. whitfield: his amendment is very simple and it is very direct. it simply says the permit will not be issued until the permit applicant certifying and -- certifies and provides documentation that at least 75% of the iron and steel used in the construction of the pipeline is produced in northern america. -- north america. which is a goal many of us have. i'd like to point out a couple

but looking very much like a broken man. >> we visited steele several weeks later. he agreed to speak with us about the incident we had filmed earlier. both he and prison medical staff also gave us permission to air the footage we had shot of him. >> that day i saw you up here with your things packed ready to go home, did you believe in your heart you were going to go home? >> yes. >> and what about now? >> i don't think so. >> so what do you think, do you think you're going to have to stay in this housing unit? >> i hope not. >> what do you want? >> i want to be released from prison. >> prison psychologist reggie matias hopes steele will be well enough eventually to be transitioned to a less restrictive unit. >> we have a program where they work in general population, they do that for a week or so, maybe two. if it looks like it's going well, then they'll move them up to a dorm and they can go to work from there. essentially they would be discharged from the chronic care unit. >> i heard you've been doing much, much better these days. >> i'm trying to. >> yeah, goo

but two specific loopholes have enabled states to buy chinese steel instead of american steel, and ship jobs out of the country. first, we should close the freight rail loophole in our buy america laws. the industrial might of this nation was built on american railroads made from american steel. as we update and improve that freight rail system, it is only right that those bridges and tracks continue to be made in america. this summer, construction of a rail bridge in alaska to a military base was awarded to a chinese company because of federal rail administration, unlike the federal transit and federal highway administrations, doesn't have a buy american provision provision. an american company was ready to build this bridge but because of this loophole the contract went to a chinese company using chinese steels, paid for with american tax dollars. that is a huge mistake. let's shut that loophole. second, we should close the segmentation loophole. this loophole allows projects to be split into little pieces in order to bypass the requirement for american-made materials. the bay bridge

this steel is what we call gun barrel quality steel which comes from ohio. >> why is it so good?> well, it meets certain standards for a gun barrel, and that's what we, as gun manufacturers, look for. our barrels are mached with both... 1940s, 1940s gun barrel all theay up throughved computerized mhinery tt's us, that's used today. so is a greacombination of e past and the current. >> absolutely. now, moving on to the... >> o.k. these happen to be receivers from different guns that we make. this is a steel casting that comes from wisconsin. we happen to have a facility in wisconsin that machines this. anyway, again, here's ohio, here's wisconsin... >> we've already seen missouri. >> we've seen missouri, kansas and iowa. >> actually, and kansas is on the phone right now. troy is on the line. we're gonna get right back to the parts, but troy, go ahead. thanks for calling. >> troy: hey, it's a pleasure talking to you this evening. >> thank you. >> i wanted to find out, i've got an eight-year-old son. what would be a good first henry rifle for him to start out with, like a .22 calibe

let me tell you. >> michael steele, we chuckle a bit at that sound byte. it does as john say, show the contrast between mitt romney and rick santorum. i guess the authenticity question. >> it's like a check list, it's like you're reading off of a check list, i touch trees, i've got cars. mention inlets and waterways. i mean, yeah, i'm sure the people in the room, who are romney folks really feel it but you know, for the rest of the folks out there who are going to be going to the polls, part of this ground game of republicans that you're going to need in the fall, you don't. and it doesn't come off as authentic enough, it seems forced, it seems contrived almost. and it's unfortunate to say, i've seen romney in a room where he does wax personal and it's very moving and very touching. that just to me comes off kind of forced. and you have santorum, who relates it to you know his grandfather and you know, hands that are you know, numb from you know, digging in the mines. that's a very different narrative. and people identify with that, particularly in hard ti

the majority of them are steel. the building i'm in it has been evaluated and it has compared well with -- >> is it a coul concrete buildi? >> it is right there. >> the concrete building on the west coast is third street, built just a couple of years back. >> modern concrete buildings we think are very good. but the buildings that were built before the mid 70s, when the codes changed, the buildings that are built out of concrete are a hazard maybe. >> 1920 to 1970, there is a class of buildings we're struggling with. in 1971 they built a hospital out of this. and a week before the hospital opened, they had the san fernando earthquake and the building collapsed. now, trust me, when you have a hogs collapse, you've got a lot of attention. and they banded in the next code cycle. >> so there is a class of high rise buildings that it's a potential hazard. it's not the downtown office buildings. it's these tall concrete high rise buildings and they have a problem in mexico city with that. >> when the when they do the ba,

severstoll, has a steel mill in mississippi. it's a mini mill on front end. it uses a big carbon arc furnace to melt down the steel, but it's a pretty sophisticated build on the back end for all the different products they do. of the 600-some people that work there, about 550 of them, this is the first steel mill they ever saw, much less worked in. yet, it was the most efficient steel mill in north america for the last two years. and we're very proud of it. we're also very proud that the first year it was open before the recession started, the average pay was $92,000 a year. not for the executives, for everybody who worked there. primarily because of all the overtime. i mention that because manufacturing jobs are the highest-paying jobs for my state. and we have a lot of different kinds of manufacturing. pack car from seattle, washington, the maker of peterbilt and kenworth trucks, has its only engine manufacturing plant in columbus, mississippi. for years anybody who has been in the trucking business, if you ordered a peterbilt or kenworth truck you asked fo

last month after learning that shermantine was talking >> in berkeley, 300 workers at the pacific steel plan are marching to protest a raid by ice. the [ unintelligible ] it is known as a sanctuary city that says undocumented workers don't have to fear law enforcement. terry mcsweeney joins us with the story. >> reporter: the marchers just left they are on their way down university where a couple lanes of traffic are blocked off. they are protesting america's immigration especially what they call the silent raids by immigration officials. they were making quite a bit of noise about it. those attending held signs saying thingsyrñ such as fight immigrant bashing, schools not jails and health care not warfare.n.a organizers of this rally say require employers to#çç produce documents proving employees are here legally. exactly the kind of raid that led to the firing of 200 workers here in berkeley. readers out here say the buck stops at president obama's immigration policy -- >> we are arguing for papers for all, jobs for all, distribute the wealth accordingly in order to fix this problem.

those are the ones that are not steel but concrete buildings. older concrete buildings. >> that's a problem that we haven't quite greapsd politically. becae

and michael steele, former rnc chairman.of the things i read romney's speech, i don't care how many people were there and all this other garbage. he's using the language of supply-side conservatives. that's what interested me. unlike george bush, he's talking about putting more money in people's pockets, which is keynesian, demand side, romney talked about the extra dollar earned. it's an incentive model. is he going to convince conservatives now that he really understands the incentive model, the ronald reagan model? >> larry, if mitt romney becomes president, this will be the week that really made him. i think he's had a great week. he did a great job in the debate. and i think this tax policy change, because remember, mitt romney 1.0 wasn't something you or myself or the "wall street journal" editorial pages were very excited about. this is pretty exciting. it's reaganesque. i think he's got to run with this, there's no backing off of it, but i really believe he has enhanced his chances not just winning michigan but winni

last month after learning that shermantine was talking >> in berkeley, 300 workers at the pacific steel plan are marching to protest a raid by ice. the [ unintelligible ] it is known as a sanctuary city that says undocumented workers don't have to fear law enforcement. terry mcsweeney joins us with the story. >> reporter: the marchers just left they are on their way down university where a couple lanes of traffic are blocked off. they are protesting america's immigration especially what they call the silent raids by immigration officials. they were making quite a bit of noise about it. those attending held signs saying thingsyrñ such as fight immigrant bashing, schools not jails and health care not warfare.n.a organizers of this rally say require employers to#çç produce documents proving employees are here legally. exactly the kind of raid that led to the firing of 200 workers here in berkeley. readers out here say the buck stops at president obama's immigration policy -- >> we are arguing for papers for all, jobs for all, distribute the wealth accordingly in order to fix this problem.

do we have any questions about building structure of a steel-framed blt? so the question is shouldn't all the fire protection ratings be uniform? >> the general concept is, you want to protect at a higher level, critical elements. the critical element is the column. >> holding the building up? >> holding the building up. that's why it has four hours of protection. i'm hoping that the fire department can get here faster than four hours. >> and the people leave. >> around the people leave, yeah, one of the biggest contents is not protecting the building and contents, but providing the people a sufficient amount of time for evacuation. in san francisco, on rincon hill and south market, under construction right now, we have a high-rise concrete core buildings where the buildings are not made of steel columns, they're made of essentially a very highly reinforced concrete core, unusual designs that need to be carefully reviewed by the building departments. we have other types of buildings. in fact the building code says you're allowed to build out of any materia

are we going to announce that we can't export steel? i have this battle sometimes in my own caucus that chemicals and refined products are manufacturingand our goal in ou to have manufacturing capability here and so we can export to the world. we h granted, louisiana and texas has much of them. i don't mind sharing them. if somebody else wants a refinery i'd help you why would we say that you can't export a product that's produced in our country? we want all the natural gas that we want, we have a glut and we have to begin to export it or use it for other things. whether it be use it for transportation fuel, more utility companies hopefully will go to natural gas because it's the cheapest available. i guess in almost my lifetime. but this aenlts -- amendment, i don't agree with the bill itself. but this is a bad amendment. because it takes away manufacturing capability to export. on our side of the aisle, steny hoyer has made the lead make it in america, manufacturing. refine products and chemicals are manufacturing. up until the high p

. >>> former workers at a berkeley steel plant took to the streets today to protest immigration laws. today hundreds of former pacific steel workers marched down university and san pablo avenues on their way to the plant. they all lost their jobs during a u.s. immigration audit which demanded proof of theirl residency status. they had to cut 200 workers. >> obama is running for re-election and we need to send the message to our president that, you know, if he wants our support, he needs to also change his approach to immigration. >> oakland city councilman is also vice president of the union that represents the steel workers. he blames the obama administration of conducting similar raids around the country during this presidential election year. >>> cadaver dogs from the south bay worked in san joaquin today looking for remains from the so-called speed killer. before the excavated soil is returned to the hole, the dogs will sniff the area to confirm all the bone fragments have been recovered. the dogs will also help determine whether to start digging at a second site. two central vall

ultimately, a lot of these steel mills in china are state run. if something happens to them and they raise a lot of money on the bond markets, they need to repay. if they can't repay, ultimately, the banksing sector needs to be behind them, right? >> okay. i think that was really the concern last year. this year, we do expect to see chinese government start to ease on monetary policy. we already see restocking demand in the fuel market showing the treaters now have been able to have more access to liquidity. and that is a good sign. because a lot of chinese steel mills sell their products to traders. so traders restocking activities is maybe a gauge to the downstream demand. so, actually, we do see, you know, this is very good development. and if new companies can access to bank lending, i think last year they already managed to borrow from banks. this year, i think with their earnings side to improve, they should be able to repay their debt from their -- >> and your favorite pick is angang steel. thank you very much for spending time with us. we

i'll ask michael steele if he agrees. the best part of having my own cable show, inviting who i want to the table. this morning, professor anita hill joins me. it might be the breakfast burritos we had this morning, but i think we've got a gas problem. >>> good morning. i'm melissa harris-perry. it's sunday. a day when many american families sit down at the kitchen table and face the reality of the household budget for the week, groceries, bills and gasoline. it you're trying to stretch your dollars, even a small increase in the price per gallon can change your plans. not just the cost of your gas but your milk, your produce. the things that have to be hauled across america's highways to you. even if you don't like big government, these kinds of pocketbook economic issues tend to make liberals and conservatives alike look to washington leadership for relief. if you look to the republicans right now, republicans like newt gingrich, you'll hear promises like the one he made campaigning in california last night. >> look, you

i fell in love with the sound of the steel string guitar. are a lot of idiomatic thing that it does well. i studied classic guitar a bit, but the steel string, for example, we do something called a hammer on and pull off, which is -- >> you get three note for the price of one. >> you plug the string but you get four notes. i always think of that town at the the prototypical steel string guitar sound. british isles, a caltech music. i learned all the paul simon songs. as i got older -- >> he is a hell of a guitarist. people do not realize. he is not flashy, but if you try to learn his tunes, they are really hard. >> he is a brilliant guitar player. i eventually got interested in jazz, world music, everything. maybe that is one of the reasons. i enjoyed so many kinds of music, i did not have a preference. i did not want to be anything in particular. i just wanted to play guitar and get that sound that i was hearing in my head. >> is there a particular song of yours that you can trace back to and influence, sound that you were trying to get tha

the steel went up to bid a billion dollars or so of steel for the bridge. one contractor put in two bids. one bid was 10% cheaper and that was chinese steel. the other bid was american steel and it was 10% more. so the bridge authority in its wisdom selected the cheaper. turns out that cheaper is not necessarily better and ultimately not cheaper. it turned out it was far more expensive. there were serious flaws in the steel and welding and 6,000 to 8,000 jobs were in china than in the united states. ultimately the cost was higher and we did not benefit in the united states, even in california, from the increased economic activity that would have occurred if the direct jobs in manufacturing and welding and fa bring indicating that steel were in the united states. we don't want that ever again. if it's our taxpayer money, from whatever source, then make it in america, use our money to buy domestic-made buses and trains and steel. we've got work to do. i put this one up here not to get away from the transit system and public transportation systems which are cr

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steele? >> well, i mean, i think, a, you're right. the trend line for at least the first month of this quarter says that the economy is making a move in a direction that's positive for the president. the second point, however, and i think it's something that the governor touched on, that's true for both parties. these numbers are going to move all over the map with respect to unemployment. the cbo came out last week and said that their early projections are showing that unemployment going into next year is going to be a lot higher than it is today. when does that trend line if it happens, begin? does it happen in the summer? after the election? so i think we've got to put a little baste bullet next to all of these numbers right now, particularly in the first quarter of the year as things begin to settle out based on what the congress, house and senate does and with the president's budget when it gets up to the hill next week. how we deal with, for example, the unemployment tax, whether that's going to be extended or if it's going to -

meteorologist alexandra steele is in for reynolds wolf.ou call up your insurance and say i parked on a frozen lake, pretty sure it's not best place to park. >> they would say did you see alexandra steele's list of ice thickness and how safe it is? i saw a jeep cherokee, these are medium sized trucks. deb, take a look at this. ice thickness, how safe is it? lake winnebago on the whole now, people reporting the depth of the thickness is about 9 inches. i want to show you where that is. all right. this is new clear ice, the safest ice, two inches less, stay off. four inches, ice fish, anything on foot is safe. five inches go with an atv or snowmobile. 8 to 12 is a car/small truck. lake winnebago 9 inches. 12 to 15 inch ice thickness, medium sized truck. certainly safe out there. we have seen shots of arctic air in the upper midwest but a diet of mild weather. to the southeast, rain and racing. they just don't mix. we've got a batch of rain, area of low pressure off the coast moving into florida, jacks jacksonvil jacksonville. orlando, tampa,