they're looking for more actually over here now trying to help set up set up companies with the steelworkers union and others around the country at leo gerard has been yes he's all all over board loves the topic yeah it's happening here they're coming here but they're coming here really looking for markets for jobs and so forth and if you go back to what i was saying about going to seris or these hospitals i think it's a more interesting model the some of the work in cleveland has been based in part on monday but trying to use these institutions that are partly publicly funded hospitals have got a lot of medical money in it and universities to stabilize the market by purchasing some part of what they produce they're not always up against the competition you get more stability at the local level so those kind of mixes of almost a planning system to help stabilize but also be in competition so you get don't get too too much you have to yourself without competition and the really interesting developments of this kind are are happening i was in madison a few months ago and talk to the people around th

you're the you're the president of one of the local unions or the local steelworkers union what. what's the profile these days that you know the the occupy movement is portrayed so much in the media particularly by g.o.p. t.v. you know fox news as basically you know kids teenagers whatever unemployed. hippies is the phrase that commonly comes out and yet you know that's not the image that comes to mind when people say united steelworkers. is in need is a group as the group is a group as diverse as your presence there would tend to represent. certainly certainly a lot of young folks there that are that are related to a great poem these whenever they want to talk is kids get it they're being handed for the first time and in this our country's history they are being handed a country with less opportunity than their parents that. pretty upset about that but we've been support them we we can't necessarily occupy out of the sort of myself from occupier we were up there today that they they set up their tents the first morning and welfare and maybe a dozen times of the three days to wal

steelworkers, pipe fitters. these are pretty good jobs, union jobs that pay good salaries. why not do this?nk republicans are very wise to say look we're going to do the payroll tax cut but we'll do something else to create jobs. jenna: do you think the democrats will be open to that? >> probably not but it's not a bad fight to have. jenna: we'll have you back in a week and see how your predictions workout. >> the keystone one is a no-brainer. why wouldn't we want to create 15,000 jobs, union jobs at a time when you have so many people out of work. jenna: the president says the state department is going through a process. >> there is no doubt about this. it will creates jobs. jenna: that's their side. we'll see what happens. we are on a timeframe crunch during the hole days. everyone wants to go on a vacation. jenna: that's when things get done, right before the christmas break. jenna:s pressure is on. always nice to see you. >> thank you. jon: in washington right now the attorney general eric holder is on the hot seat facing tough questions as lawmakers look into that federal program that