. >> stefan paaro was a very relatable guy to most of us who are filming "lockup." he was a well educated man and he expressed himself so eloquently. and so succinctly. i think he was a cautionary tale because his crimes were committed because of his substance abuse and i think most of us probably know people who have similar issues. but there was stefan, trying to navigate through an extremely violent world. >> i had an idea that i would never end up in prison, that i was somehow exempt. i'm not saying i was an exemplary citizen by any means, but i had no idea that it could get this bad. that's what i -- [ alarm ] >> in the middle of interviewing stefan the alarm went off. and the protocol at the prison is, all inmates have to get down on their stomachs and all staff and other personnel remain standing. >> false alarm! >> it was a little sad, actually watching stefan, on the ground. because we were in the midst of having this great conversation almost, and he started to think of himself i think as a regular guy back out on the street, and suddenly it was very clear