helena: earlier i spoke to our washington correspondent stefan simons and asked him whether the re areifficulties for u.s. --- spelled difficulties for european carmakers. stefan: as you said, he is a hawk when it comes to tariffs and he is definitely not advising president trump on taking that arrow out of possible weapons against the eu. during the trade negotiations with the eu commission. as you mentioned, the commissioner said earlier he expects tariffs on cars to hit the eu before christmas. german carmakers and the bosses of mercedes-benz, bmw, and volkswagen, they meet here in the background in solo meetings. they are not in a group meeting with ross wilber, the commerce secretary, mr. kudlow. and with robert lighthizer. so i did not think there is any chance that robert lighthizer will come out, it is all happy time now and there will not be any tariffs coming towards europe or exports to the united states. helena: that said, is there any possibility they could be going in one by one and making the case that the u.s. might be hit by those tariffs on european carmakers? it coul