steichen, when he took that picture, afterwards wrote that looking into j.p. morgan's eyes is like staring into the lights of an oncoming express train. and, i mean, imagine being this very public figure, very much being criticized on all sides for some of what he was doing and having this deformity that everybody had to deal with when they met him. so it's--i think part of that is in the picture, that sort of glaring defiance. but i actually tried to find the negatives of those pictures from steichen to see if he had touched them up or whether he touched it up in the print, and i wasn't able to find the originals. c-span: now you have a photograph on the front cover. how old was he in this one? >> guest: about--he was a few years older. we don't know. i would guess that photograph is around 1910 and the other one is 1903, but that's just a guess from how he looked. i don't know for sure when that picture was taken. c-span: when did you first get to know him? >> guest: well, i first started on this project in 1983. i would say that it was several y... c-span:

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