persona non grata and could travel, the question is, would he if a the had of a state if franklin steinman was not able to do so, of course, pressure is growing for all our shoals to go there to show solidarity in person to also meet ukrainian president is cilenzo. that's what several european leaders have done after the russian invasion. we had the president of the european commission was a law on the line, your sup burrell, also a prime minister, boris johnson, who worked through the streets of care for many a saying that if all i've shown is actually declared a persona grotto, a persona non grata depends on what he can deliver, not just for a photo opportunity, but actually also helping ways they helping ukraine not just with promises but with actions when we'll look at, for example, oil or gas inputs from russia. also on weapons and heavy weapons that a foreign minister and alina babel is now wanting in asking also germany to do so. of course that will have consequences on a possible trip by the german chancellor. he was even asked if he would go there if there was any solidarity trip