now joined the study here by stella morris julian assertions, a wife, welcome. and thanks for joining us. young t. w. news at stella last line of our report. was awaiting an uncertain future. ah, what are your hopes and fears for julian suture? while an uncertain future an uncertain present. join has been in a high security prison for over 3 and a half years is not serving a sentence and he awaits the outcome of the extradition where he faces possible prison sentence in the u. s. for 175 years at the fact that he's even in prison is completely a huge travesty of justice. and i'm increasingly describing the process itself as the punishment and as a means to keep him indefinitely in a prison as punishment. now before we go further into that, when did you last? see julian and how is he? i saw jolene about 9 days ago or 10 days ago. but on saturday last week he was diagnosed with cove it. so that means that he was placed in 24 hour lockdown, locked in his cell continuously since saturday. today's day 7 of solitary confinement essentially. so we don't know how long h