. >> ladies and gentlemen, please thank dame stella rimington. .. with well-known environmentalists are worried loosed by his father. this is just over an hour. [applause] >> any company you forgot to mention the wonderful sculpture out there. my sangria been made that sculpture hang in there. well, it was a lot of fun working with usaid pressure. was it as good for you as it was for me? >> it was. >> we've been talking about it for a long time and we finally did it. and you seem to have done it with such joy and such humor and playfulness. usually when it comes to environmental literature, but problems. it sounds like you have fun doing it. >> thank you and i did. it's one of the things they must have learned from my father. one of his complaints was as a set of environment tillis and feminists they don't have a bit of humor. he thought it was just too dismal to having to keep beating people over the head with doom and gloom because that's at environmentalists often do. so he were to in his speech and books to. >> you seem to have a wonderful night

stella rimington was the first whose identity was made to the public. and now from the c-span video library, paul riot on medicare, social security, and the budget. he has appeared on c-span over 400 times since he made his debut in 1995 when he was a congressional staffer. guests include the hot to zack and greg gilbert. this is 40 minutes. >> as you know, the obligated debt, i have heard $49 trillion. cbo estimates by 2020 the budget will essentially be interest on the debt, social security, medicare, medicaid. the reason we have these huge debts is because no party is able to on their own address these problems. the other party would attack them for it. what mechanism is going to have to be put into play to try to address the long term a budget issues? >> i think you are right. if republicans go out and try to fix social security, democrats demagogue them. vice versa. we should not be afraid of that. get a dialogue going in this country so we can figure out how to fix these problems. one of the things we ought to do is change the way our federal budg