group that is pretty close to white house incoming, incoming white house deputy chief of staff stephan miller who also had a strong role in a first trump administration has this group the federation for american immigration reform, has -- in particular, and one, prevent employers from paying h-1b visas workers less and americans in the same role, reward applicants who earned a masters degree or higher from an american university. require employers to demonstrate that they sought american workers and offered positions to qualified funds before turning to h-1b workers, which is something similar to the other visas for lower skilled workers. implement more effective enforcement mechanisms and increase investigations including random audits, and then the h-1b guest worker program would be for temporary workers and should not be a pathway to citizenship. what do you think of some of those supposedly rules? >> guest: overall it's objectionable because it's all about increasing the restrictions on the visas. a lot of it is duplicative. they are already required to be paid prevailing wage which of ba

a group pretty close to white house incoming come into the white house deputy chief of staff stephan miller who also had a pretty strong role in the first trump administration, has this group the federation for american immigration reform has proposed a series of reforms to the h-1b visa program in particular. number one prevent employers from bank h-1b visa workers less than americans in the same roles. reward applicants who earned a masters degree or higher from an american university. require employers to demonstrate that they sought american workers and offered positions to qualified ones before turning to h-1b workers, something similar to the other pieces of lower skilled workers. implement more effective enforcement mechanisms and increased investigations including random audits, and then the h-1b guest worker program would be for temporary workers and should not be a pathway to citizenship. what do you think of some of those supposedly rules? >> guest: overall, it's objectionable because it's all about increasing the restrictions on the visas. a lot of it is duplicative. there are a

on the other side, the h1 b visa is the one that folks like stephen miller and stephan bennett have been pushing for years, that we should restrict, limit, perhaps end all immigration in the u.s., legal and illegal point the border, around asylum, but also h1 b visas. just listen to the two of them on tannins old radio show back in march of 2016 point this was before trump was even the republican nominee. take a listen. >> they see these oligarchs down there with 54 private jets and they're not down there for their health. they're called together by karl rove to stop trump movement and to stop trump movement because they want unlimited h1 b visas. isn't the beating heart of this problem right now, the real beating heart of it, of what we've got to get sorted here, is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and it's horrific, it's only a problem, we looked the other way on this legal immigration that kind of overwhelmed the country. >> the history of america is that an integration on period is followed by an immigration off period. >> to be very clear there, h1 b visas, legal imm