her own press person, stephanie grisham, said mrs.d what is appropriate for the occasion. this is not appropriate. look at her in riyadh. perfect, everything was perfect. long dress. with the pope she wore the exact perfect outfit. colored her hair. culturally appropriate. republican national convention, dress from a designer born in serbia, to recommend sort of the region from which she had come. one of the debates during the campaign, she, well -- after the president made that comment on the "access hollywood" tape. the point is, she is very thoughtful and very careful with what she does. she's never worn anything like this before. it wasn't like i grabbed it out of the closet by mistake. >> yeah. i mean, the sole purpose of that jacket is the message on the back. right? it's not some beautifully designed jacket in some brilliant color or something. it's a sort of jacket you would wear as a teenager during your angsty phases. it's really odd she wears it today. i think it was certainly inappropriate. the thing about the first lady,

he's directly contradicting stephanie grisham who said there is no message.was totally unintentional. donald trump said, of course there was a message. she's on to you fake news media. >> you're welcome for that moment. it was actually directing and producing. >> i mean -- >> listen. again, i didn't want to beat up on the first lady. i'm not doing that. it is really perplexing when you consider the kind of story that she was going down there for and to wear that jacket. >> yeah. >> the very least it's tone deaf. my thing is why are you criticizing the media when you asked the question? there is a big question mark on the back of your jacket that says, do you? when the american people answer the question saying i do and why are you wearing that jacket, you should not be outraged by it. >> also, quite frankly, don, we would ask the question if michelle obama had worn the jacket, laura bush. >> 100%. >> this is not necessarily something we would let slide certainly because there is animosity between the media and the administration. it is our job to ask the ques

that's to the point from stephanie grisham.l, the president backed giuliani just a few hours ago. >> rudy's great. rudy's rudy. but rudy is doing a very good job actually. [ inaudible ] >> he said what? >> he said being a porn star is not respectable work. >> i'm not going to disagree with imhad on that. >> eli stokols is an msnbc political analyst and reporter for "the new york times." president publicly backing this guy. privately, there's some report being that melania obviously wasn't happy. when stephanie grisham puts out a statement and he wasn't happy that that was something that crossed a line. what are you hearing? is it. >> the same. trump sort of judges each thing in the most immediate context, and if it is getting a bad reaction generally, he may be more skeptical. he may not like it. but rudy was brought on -- we say as attorney but we really mean spokesperson. he was brought in to act as an attorney but really to go on tv -- he's been doing a ton of it -- and stir things up, to attacks the president's rivals, to s

border to one of these centers what is she doing there exactly what we're told by her spokeswoman stephanie grisham that in fact she planned this trip on tuesday even before the president signed this executive order but that she did go with his blessing she said when she tweeted and in a statement a couple of days ago that she believes that this administration should govern with heart she's certainly not afraid to state her opinions even if it may at times come very close to competing or coming at odds with the positions of her husband the white house says she still believes that law and order needs to be enforced upon the border but as the president said moments ago and it's he said when he signed that executive order he didn't like the pictures he was seeing she doesn't like the picture she's seeing and she wants to work to see how she can help with the unit reunification process that she believes began before this administration certainly it has been exasperated them with the recent policy that now has had a rare retreat so she is down all along the border in texas she's visiting two different f

. >> laura: i want to read a comment from stephanie grisham who just released a statement today. the double standard are truly incredible. time and time again this family is subjected to hateful lies and all in the name of comedy at the mainstream media remained silent. representative, you can close it out. >> i want to say that the at the end of the day we do fully condemn anyone who says derogatory statements. but we have to make sure at the end of the day this is not a partisan issue. when you speak about women and you speak racial slurs, you should be condemned. at the end of the day, the same people that are condemning samantha b and roseanne and everyone else should also be condemning the president of the united states that does the same exact derogatory, racial and bitter words. >> what the left is angry about, laura is that republicans and conservatives are finally speaking their mind. and they are angry because anyone that says any derogatory statements -- >> no matter -- >> laura: we are out of time but i'm glad that we are all talking about the fact that culture matter

yesterday the first lady's communications director stephanie grisham made it clear she want add realistic told the president, i'm headed to texas. how big a role does she play behind the scenes now and how frequent, i guess, is her integration on policy and topics like this with her husband, with the president? >> it's hard to say. a number of people have the president's ear. at any given moment he makes a decision based on what he wants to do. end of the day, how often melania talks to him about things, how forceful she is about things, how forceful ivanka is behind the scenes, none of it really matters. the president will do what he wants to do, but i thought it was very interesting yesterday the first lady's spokeswoman was careful to say, in the statement put out, something the first lady wanted to do on her oun without the permission of her husband. definitely a signal there was an intentional gulf between them being made. >> emily jane fox, thank you, and both of you, for your time. >>> and coming up, ben rhodes joins ow friend david gura with his take on the border crisis. that's n

families at borders just hours before bush's piece was published, trump's communications director stephanie grisham told cnn, mrs. trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform. truck this is the house minority leader, nancy pelosi will visit an immigration detention facility. at the white house, kevin court. >>> news at noon, san francisco's district attorney issuing a safety warning to the public after a man was charged with selling counterfeit drugs. >> 1024 is live in the newsroom. >> due to an investigation, a man faces 14 counts of selling counterfeit drugs without a prescription. the district attorney spoke about the charges in the investigation. at the self-help and elderly center in china town. the man accused of selling the drugs so the out of his herbal medicine shop in the 700 block of jackson street in chinatown. that is were state investigators recovered 600 products, believed to be prescription only, counterfeit misbranded or unapproved medication. >> you may be thinking y

amy: meanwhile, on sunday, first lady melania trump's communications director stephanie grisham issued statement to cnn on family separation that said -- "mrs. trump hates to see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform. she believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart." still whether this is pramila jayapal, democratic congressman from washington state. before she came into the congress in 2016, she was elected, she was the head of one america, a large immigrant organization in washington state. and now has gone to the prison in washington state to see some of the hundreds of asylum seekers held at the seatac euro prisons who were brought up from the border. she us in just a moment, will be speaking to us from statuary hall, will be sheila jackson lee, who is running over to take her position. at that issue of all of these women, very interesting, the role the women are taking also that trump is trying to make women the face of his po

saying the media has added fuel to the fire, certainly i spoke to melania trump's spokesperson stephanie grisham yesterday and she told me in a statement, mrs. trump has always been a strong and independent woman who puts her family and certainly her health above all else and that won't change over a rabid press corps. she's confident in who she is, what she is doing and in her role and knows the rest is just speculation and nonsen. mo of the country was edia, wondering where their first lady was, right, left, center. everyone was speculating after the disappearance of melania for such a long period of time. she is an independent. she did have a medical procedure that kept her in the hospital for five days. we hope she's doing better. we expect to see her have a more public schedule. >> why were we the bad guys for wondering about her health and wondering if she was okay? it's good to see her and she looks well. thank you for the update there. >>> the devastation in hawaii is intensifying this morning. there's fast moving lava. it's pouring into the ocean and that creates hazardous conditions. w

>> it was her communications director stephanie grisham who did give cnn a comment today. "mrs.o see children separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve successful immigration reform. she believes we need to be a country that follows all laws but also a country that governs with heart." so like you said, it doesn't deviate too much from what the president himself is saying. she's clearly noting that this is a partisan is this both sides of the aisle. however, she does tend to be the more compassionate voice of this administration, and it is unusual for her to weigh in on policy issue. she certainly doesn't have to. however, having made helping children and her be best policy the real essence and crux of her first lady platform, it seems appropriate that she does at least say something. this is why we reached out to her. and this is the response via her office. >> but you know, it's those last few words that particularly stand out. govern with heart. and most voices who have observed the facility and many voices on both th

and, in fact, the fact that it completely contradicted stephanie grisham's, it's just a jacket, i thinkpresident was sort of jumping at any opportunity he could to criticize the media. for all we know, the message was aimed at him. >> yeah, that's what a lot of maybe people who like melania and are part of this free melania movement may want to think about. but, lauren, i mean, this is, look, they don't have a defined constitutional role. they don't get a salary, but first ladies, we know, have influenced their fathers before. there is a school of thought that nobody influences donald trump and yet we are hearing from people inside both the west and the east wing that it was melania, it was ivanka who got him to switch gears on this separation policy. what do you make of the influence of these two women in his life? >> you know, the reporting does indicate that that's exactly what happened. and i don't think this is a president that's immune to public opinion. clearly the public pressure on this in addition to the behind the scenes lobbying really made a big effect here. and i think kar

messaging from her team, her spokeswoman, i found it incredibly telling explaining her trip, stephanie grishamd the way that this played out, kate, is that melania said, quote, i'm headed down to texas, and then her husband, the president was, quote, very supportive. and then her spokeswoman goes on to say that this was 100% her, meaning melania's idea. what is your read on that? >> well, she does do what she wants. i mean, we saw that when rudy giuliani came out and said she didn't, you know, believe the stormy daniels allegations, and stephanie came out and said, actually, they never talk about anything. so melania is very head strong, stubborn, strong willed, she wanted to do this. i think i -- i do think she understands that she is an immigrant herself and to avoid this looks really bad. she's a mother. she talks about being a mother constantly. so how could you not focus on this issue? but it undermines her message wearing this jacket because now what we're talking about is the jacket and not the really smart, bold, important thing she did yesterday, which was going down to texas. so, aga

stephanie grisham said it's a jacket, there was no hidden message in it at all.sional paralysis notwithstanding mr. trump's executive order still stands in place and it requires parents be detained with their children. it also mandates the construction of new facilities and the prioritization of adjudicating their cases as quickly as possible. bill, back to you. >> bill: doug mcelway from the north lawn. >> heather: for more on this let's bring in former arkansas governor mike huckabee and the host of huckabee on trinity broadcasting network where he will have an exclusive interview with president trump on saturday night. look forward to that. immigration obviously something that he will talk about as well. i want to bring up first of all this magazine cover from "time" magazine if people have seen it. you have the young girl 2 years old and then you have president trump looking down at her. the problem is, "time" magazine is trying the talk about all these children separated from their families and it turns out this child the daily mail was able to talk to her f