melania trump's then chief of staff, stephanie grisham said, quote, this book belongs in the fiction genre by 2021, grisham had resigned and published her own scathing book about the trump white house donald for 18 years. and i have been aware of his love for this country since we first met for many americans, the first time they may have heard melania trump's voice was when she took center stage at the republican national convention in july 2016. >> we all remember the disaster when she spoke at the convention and many lines were plagiarized lifted from michelle obama's speech you work hard for what you want in life that your word is your bond that you do what you say you're going to do, you work hard for what you want? life. >> that your word is your bond and you do what you say, parts of millennia speech came directly from michelle obama's 2008 convention remarks. there were the allegations of plagiarism of mrs. obama's that's a tough way to start but as she faced let me in public, launia remained deeply influential in private how much influence would you say she has on him at cer

and then she's going to do what she feels is best please welcome. >> stephanie grisham by 2024, melania's chief of staff, a self-proclaimed former trump true believer described her breaking point with the first lady on january 6 i asked malatia if we could at least tweet that while peaceful protests is the right of every american, there's no place for lawlessness or violence she replied with one word no. i became the first senior staffer to resign that day because i was at the white house later, we would realize what she was doing was having a rogue photographs, a rug that she had redesigned for the diplomatic roman that's what you did on january 6? that's morning as that day, husband was delivering the speech on the ellipse and his rioters were attacking the capitol. >> she was doing a photo shoot and i think at that point, people could really understand who melania trump wants much more aligned with their husbands politics than people thought in a july 2022 statement responding to reports of her photo shoot on january 6, melania trump rights had i've been fully informed of all the detai

and you think of stephanie grisham. you think of mike pence, who has said he's not going to be supporting trump. trump's very own vice president. there have been so many people who have been in the, so- called, inner circles of the white house or of trump world, who have denounced him. and yet their message does not seem to have broken through, at the same time. in the primaries, nikki haley became one of the most outspoken voices against trump in the end, and then she went on to say that she was endorsing him, or that she was voting for him and then came out and endorsed him at the rnc . so, i think when it comes to trump it's funny. it's like there is this game of political survival, and then i think for a lot of these people what they are saying falls on deaf ears or, maybe, just doesn't matter to some voters who may be making decisions based on things like the economy and not who trump is. well he's e incredibly influential i'll be >> i wonder what you think the power trump has over our current congress, was he got

they include former trump press secretary stephanie grisham, the chief of staff for homeland security, and mike pence's national security adviser. former president obama, campaigning with kamala harris yesterday in georgia, warned that if trump became president again, he would not have people like general kelly around to hold him back. unlike the first time, he won't have people like john kelly around to stop him. he'll be surrounded by people who are just as loony as he is, and who will let him do what he wants. and so my question to you, georgia, is how is any of that going to help you? trump, for his part, says general kelly is a lying lowlife, a degenerate and dumb. he said that on truth social at a cafe in las vegas, a reporter asked about allegations in atlantic magazine that trump had praised hitler. trump denied it, said, i never said that. i would never say that the former president will tape an interview with podcaster joe rogan today for air on saturday or sunday. kamala harris camp is at least talked about the idea of sitting down with rogan, who's younger. male audience.

stephanie grisham, who resigned after january 6 out on the road to give these people what they view as permission structure to vote for kamala harris, right? we weren't for trump in their minds. he was erratic, he was crazy. you might not like some of these things about her, but you really can't vote for him again. now whether that works or not, i don't know. we saw even leading up to the 2020 election dnc and others did all sorts of focus groups on character and they've done a lot of people didn't like trump's character, but they still voted for. and there's character messages didn't work that well at that point. so i'm not necessarily thinking that this will work. i don't know if it will or not, but they're spending a lot of time, a lot of resources, a lot of energy. as you're seeing today, and sort of the central part of the strategy down the stretch to get republicans to vote against donald trump. >> they may have to do that, right? because look at the coalition that she's trying to build to get to the white house here is she's not doing as well with black voters. she's struggling

you had stephanie grisham was a white house press secretary when i covered the white house for, abc and politico, she was one of the top communications people. she was the oval office with trump. she was the chief of staff to melania trump. then she was on stage last night with some really scathing descriptions of, her former boss and somebody that worked for and you think of stephanie, you think of pence, who has said not going to be supporting trump's very own vice president. there have been so many people who have been the so-called inner circles of the white house or of trump trumpworld to have denounced him and their message does not seem to have broken. at the same time, you know, in the primaries, nikki haley became one of the most outspoken voices against in the end. and then she went on to say that she was endorsing him and or that she was voting for him and, then came out and endorsed him at the rnc. so i think when it comes to trumpets, funny, it's like there's this game of political survival. and then i think for a lot of these people, what they're saying falls on deaf ears

stephanie grisham by 2024, melania's chief-of-staff, a self-proclaimed former trump, true believer. >> described her breaking point with the first lady on january 6. >> i asked malatia if we could at least tweet that while peaceful protests is the right of every american and there's no place for lawlessness or violence she replied with one word. no. >> i became the first senior staffer to resign sign that day because i was at the white house later, we would realize what she was doing was having a rug photographs, a rug that she had redesigned for the diplomatic room that's what she did on january 6 that's that morning as that got day, her husband was delivering the speech on the ellipse and his rioters were attacking the capitol. >> she was during a photo shoot and i think at that point people could really understand who melania trump wants much more aligned with her husband's politics than people thought now. so kaitlan, we just heard quite a striking contrast between melania trump on january 6 and then her very enigmatic pro-abortion message. now, how do you square those things well

whole story, which this documentary that airs on sunday, and i want to play a clip from that >> stephanie grisham2024, melania as chief of chief-of-staff, a self-proclaimed former trump, true believer described her breaking point with the first lady on january 6 i asked melania if we could at least tweet that while peaceful protests is the right of every american, there's no place for lawlessness or violence she replied with one word no. i became the first senior staffer to resign that day because i was at the white house later, we would realize what she was doing was having a rug photographed a rug that she had redesigned for the diplomatic room. >> that's what you did on january 6? that's that morning as that got day, her husband was delivering the speech on the ellipse and his rioters who were attacking the capitol he was doing a photo shoot and i think at that point, people could really understand who melania trump wants much more aligned with her husband's politics than people thought do you think i mean, husband's lies about the 2020 election. >> i think she's more like her her husband and

stephanie grisham.2024, melania's chief of chief-of-staff, a self-proclaimed former trump true believer described her breaking zero point with the first lady on january 6. i asked melania if we could at least tweet that while peaceful protests is the right of every american, there's no place faced for lawlessness or violence she replied with one word. no. >> i became the first senior staffer to resign that day. because i was at the white house later, we would realize what she was doing was having a rogue photographs drug that she had redesigned for the diplomatic room that's what she did on january 6? that's not morning as that got day, her husband was delivering the speech on the ellipse and as rioters were attacking the capitol she was doing a photo shoot and i think at that point people could really understand who melania trump wants much more aligned with their husbands politics than people thought melania trump later came out in a statement in june of 2022 saying, how did she known what was fully g

and unnamed stephanie grisham did not give her the full details of what was happening. mrs. thomas rice that my team has already behind schedule and focused on the task. she said she also said according to this report, i'm not the only person who questions results of the 2020 election you know, look, melania, one of the fallacies for four years was this idea of free melania trump. remember that protesters, the women's march right after trump was elected, there was this idea that melania was somehow, you know, sort of a secret opponent of trump's or that she was so unhappy, it strikes me that what we've learned does that you might not be super close to donald trump, but also not be in the camp of his opponents. and i think melania trump has shown that once again, meantime on the ballot, she's not on the ballot. yeah. but what he's voting for her. but meantime, you know, doug emhoff, husband has been out there. >> he's been fundraising, he's been was on a podcast as on friday talking about how his role in trying to fight anti-semitism me be the first jewish spouse. >> what do