. >> stephanie kuntz, the way we never were. i mentioned the mermaid and the minitore earlier, which i think was from the '70s or '80s, but really shows the degree to which the changeover to societies in which men were separated from children and didn't develop those parts of higher arcry. not enough men enter child rearing in the home and develop the rest of themselves. >> bell hooks, feminism is for everybody. >> yes, the great bell hooks. >> yes, ms. magazine in the classroom. >> ms. is in classrooms and a very important resource. and it also is in women's prisons and a very important resource. >> betty ferdan, absolutely. a classic, especially for women in a traditional role. >> what organizations, what kind of community building do you recommend? >> well, just tell us where you live and we'll find you -- there's no shortage. and the junior league also has become much more an agent of social change than it ever was when i was growing up. >> i'm going to cut in for one more political question before we wrap it up. >> wilma ma

. >> stephanie kuntz, the way we never were.