stephanie miller what did you make of it?stunning, larry, even seeing it again you shack yoke your hed say really, really you are going to defend bp on this. like i say, i don't think we have gotten to the levels of criminal liability that are going to be found in this. this was unprecedented, larry. look at "exxon valdez" and how many years it took people to be made whole and in some cases it didn't either because it was cut down by the supreme court. this president accomplished something unprecedented in voluntarily getting a company to do this before we even got into awful this. i would rather have a president, acting tough, smoke them out, dead or alive, mission accomplished doing this behind the scenes. >> larry: dana, you are not, are you -- do you agreen with congressman martin, dana? >> yes and no. >> larry: what is the yes part? >> the yes part is, look i agree bp should be financially responsible for the accident. it happened on their watch. no one is contesting that. i think the thing that a lot of people are forge