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host: let's get a response from stephanie vance. guest: well, first of all i went to school in orange county so i'm glad you called in because i know it's quite early out there. you know, i hear what you're saying and there's actually, i was surprised to learn when i was doing the research on this book, there's about over 500,000 local, state and federal elected officials. so, there are certainly a lot of people to lobby out there. and i think that you know, i think what happens with the size of the federal government is that it's not just a lobbyist goes in and says i'm a special interest, i would like this. it's that there's people behind it. and you see that the federal depovement actually starts to get involved because there are things that are national and focused. for example, the highway system. you need a cross state network of roads. and so, when you start seeing that, you get citizens behind it, they want these kind of roads, elected officials get involved. to me that's why the federal government has grown. less about d.c.