. >> you're saying that stephanie clifford made these allegations, told donald trump's lawyer- >> and denied them and then said it wasn't true. however, imagine if that came out on october 15, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with hillary clinton. >> right, so to make it go away, they made this -- >> cohen didn't even ask. cohen made it go away. >> trevor: rudy! rudy! ( laughter ) ( applause ) rudy! you just admitted that the payment was to make the story go away to help the campaign! america! ( laughter ) and you know what the worst part is? the worst part of this whole story is if trump had just paid stormy daniels and didn't try and hide it, the story would have just been donald trump had an affair. let's be honest, no one would have cared. even melania would have been like, better her than me. ( laughter ) now, because of the coverup, things are much worse. it's like if someone got pulled over for drunk driving but instead of admitting it they said, no, i wasn't drunk driving, my ten-year-old was driving, yeah, and he was drunk. honestly, i feel bad for team trump. i

he came out and offered it out there that he repaid stephany clifford, maybe because he knew all thising to break and he poorly, but tried to get to be the guy to break it. >> yeah. right. let's say this, i'm not going to give rudy giuliani all of the insanity umbrella for that, i'm just going to say it is some -- some of what has transpired is starting to make sense. the question is, and van is discuss singt with this. this is not normal. and van is right, who has an attorney that does that kind of thing? if they do have an attorney, that attorney is not ethical and there is a chance for that attorney to be disbarred. it looks like cohen can wind up being disbarred. there are some issues here on the table. the bottom line is you got to follow the trail of money, and that's the big question, where did all this money go? we've heard about people being paid off for various things. why pay these things off during the campaign time? this is be a major fcc violation. it is not just a slap on the wrist, this was something to change the course if this money was used to pay people off to shut

. >>> coming up, michael of a gnatty, attorney for stephanie clifford, better known as stormy daniels will weigh in on the changes to trump's legal team. who is going be the the first one to talk to president trump under a court under oath in an interview setting. you are watching msnbc. my mom washes the dishes... ...before she puts them in the dishwasher. so what does the dishwasher do? new cascade platinum lets your dishwasher be the dish washer. three cleaning agents dissolve, lift and rinse away food the first time. new cascade platinum. >> tech: don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole windshield. with safelite's exclusive resin, you get a strong repair that you can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. >> customer: really?! >> singers: safelite repair, safelite replace. >>> it seems all of trump's various legal teams have their hands fuchl let's move on to the top lawyer for the trump organizatio organizati organization. he is weighing in on allegations from trump's law time doctor. dr. harold barn steen says last year the top lawyer f

president before we bring you the latest let's take a look at what we know so far porn actress stephanie clifford stage name stormy daniels alleges that she had sex with donald trump back in two thousand and six a year after he married his wife melania. and twenty sixteen daniels was paid one hundred and thirty thousand dollars by trump's lawyer michael cohen cohen she says it was hush money to keep her quiet about the alleged sexual encounter the payment was made just days before the twenty six thousand presidential election raising questions of campaign financing violations trump has denied ever having sex with daniels he also previously denied knowledge of the payment to her. but now one of trump's lawyers rudy giuliani says that the u.s. president in fact did repay his personal attorney of the one hundred thirty thousand dollars the lawyer used to silence stormy daniels something that president trump has now confirmed on twitter so we're getting a different story here this of course directly contradicting trump's earlier statements about the allegations concerning a payment during an appearan

my own personal funds to facilitate a payment, i'm talking michael cohen now, of $130,000 to stephany cliffordneither the trump campaign was a party to the transaction and neither reimbursed me for the payment directly or indirectly. the trump organization that would be indirectly right? >> well, donald trump is the trump organization if you go into the legalities of whose on the letter head and who can make decisions what have you, we can go down that road. think about what rudy giuliani just said about michael cohen. he says cohen engaged in this kind of activity on behalf of trump, took care of things so trump wouldn't have to necessarily do it. he's taking care of hush money payments to a porn graphic actress that is alleging she had an affair with donald trump. this is the way of doing business in the real estate empire, i'm sure you can go out all across the country and find people who are very successful that don't have fixers like this that are dealing with such lewd types of allegations. before we get into whether it's illegal owner, that in itself should say something, don. >> yeah.

. >> his personal attorney michael cohen said he paid daniels whose real name is stephanie clifford using his own personal funds days before the 2016 election to keep quiet about an alleged sexual encounter with trump, and that he was not reimbursed by the trump organization or the trump campaign. now former new york mayor rudy guiliani is telling fox news trump himself reimbursed cohen. >> that money was not campaign money. sorry, i'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. it's not campaign money. no campaign finance violation. >> so they funneled it through a law firm. >> funnel through a law firm and the president repaid it. >> the new revelations contradict the president's own words last month on air force one. >> did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? why did michael cohen make it -- >> you'll have to ask michael cohen. he is my attorney. >> then he tried to clear things up. >> he didn't know the details of this until we knew the details of it which was a couple weeks ago, maybe not even that, maybe ten days ago. >> prompting this response from michael avenatt

if it is true that this helping uncover whether or not, for instance, stephanie clifford was threatened by someone at the direction of michael cohen -- we don't know, but if that's a connection, i can completely understand the relevance of trying to understand an enterprise of activity activity. >> and they're trying to figure out if everyone is acting like gangsters, is that because they're gangsters? >> michael, thank you for phoning in. ambrosio, and -- thank you. matt, stay with me. >>> is it making it more partisan, also trump putting american secrets? jeopardy? it's all about, yes, his phones. >>> as you've been mentioning throughout the day, we have a special report on rudy giuliani, and a panel of experts who have tangled with him for decades, talking about his return to team trump. >> there is just america! from the top to the bottom, from the middle to the side, i said islamic extremist terrorism, you know who you are. and we're coming to get you. >>> from the middle to the side and windows to the wall, i'm ari mel better and you're watching "the beat" on msnbc. that's why the

>> first, stephanie clifford said explicitly not paying anything.at up only after he represented her for several weeks and asked the question who is paying for this. who is paying for this? where is the $500,000 he collected going? there is no accounting. and is there a separate opo research operation here? who is paying for that? was storm any daniels indemnified, he said, violate your non-compete agreement. don't worry about it. not the kind of advice i typically see from lawyers. and then i got into a back and forth about these bank records. hey, where did you get those? that could be through an illegal process. he writes back, oh, work product, work product. once you release it the privilege is waived, even if it was work product which i highly doubt would fall into the exception. david: very quickly when you tell your democratic colleagues making a mistake focus on the scandals, get back to the issues what do they tell you? >> a lot of people actually agree with that. a lot of people look, avenatti got 100 interviews. cable tv doing a free ride

personal funds to facilitate a payment," i'm talking michael cohen now, "of $130,000 to miss stephanie clifford. neither the trump organization nor the trump campaign was a party to the transaction with miss clifford and neither reimbursed me for the payment either directly or indirectly." the trump organization, that would be indirectly, right? >> well, look, donald trump is the trump organization. if you want to get into legalities of who's on the letterhead and who request make decisions, what have you, we can go down that road. i think we need to stop, though. everybody needs to take a big pause and think about what rudy giuliani just said about michael cohen. he said that michael cohen engaged in this kind of activity and did so on behalf of donald trump, took care of things so that trump didn't have to necessarily do it. look at what he's taking care of right now. he's taking care of hush money payments to a pornographic actress that is alleging she had an affair with donald trump. now, if donald trump -- this is like the way of doing business in the real estate empire, i'm sure that you

. >> you're saying that stephanie clifford made these allegations, told donald trump's lawyer -- >> and denied them. they said it wasn't true. however, imagine if that came out on october 15th, 2016, in the middle of the last debate sonchs to make it go away, they made this -- >> cohen didn't even ask. cohen made it go away. he did his job. >> julie? >> well, i think what rudy giuliani was saying was what many of us have assumed, was that, you know, this was a payment that was made right before the election in order to squelch these accusations from coming out. what's strange and much more difficult today given all the shifting explanations about this payment, if the president knew about the payment, what it was for, who exactly made it, what the reimbursement system was is, you know -- if the president knew about that and sort of directed that in any way, whether it was picking up the phone and calling michael cohen or knowing that if an allegation like this surfaces this is what he was authorized to do, that is wholly different than what the white house has been telling us for months.

matters is because cohen has said he used a home equity line of credit to pay that hush money to stephanie clifford. cohen claiming he didn't need to use campaign money to make that payment. the "times" is reporting that president trump knew at the time told reporters aboard air force i that he didn't know about that payment. and the trump organization chief financial officer knew of this payment and retainer agreement that the president had set up with cohen and the payment was made that way. that could potentially draw the president's business further into investigation. the president didn't even mention this even obliquely during that speech that he gave here in cleveland to a friend live crowfriendly crowd. he tends to go back to his greatest hits. but the revelations this week have raised a host of questions about the president's credibility, the white house officials, his own press team as the president is set to have this high stakes, high-level summit with the north korean leader as he weighs getting out of the iran nuclear deal. while there are a host of questions about this seemingly sala

we know that stephanie clifford, aka stormy daniels, she was talking to major national media outlets about going public. rudy giuliani said this morning, imagine if this story came out on october 15th. this was all about the election. it's obvious. and the real problem here is the cover-up. donald trump could have made this payment without violating any campaign finance laws. it's permissible for him to have spent as much of his own money as he wanted to, to influence the election. he just had to do it transparently. because americans have a right to know who's spending money to influence the world on election day. >> who knows how this would have played out. if no one cared about the "access hollywood" tape, maybe they wouldn't have cared about this. >>> credibility crisis at the white house. >> we give the very best information that we have at the time. again, we give the best information possible at the time. >> look, she didn't know about the payment till last night, well, we all knew about it so maybe she doesn't have any information. >>> giuliani warning bob mueller, don't go a

michael cohen, who orchestrated the hush payments to porn star stormy daniels whose real name is stephanie cliffordtrump has been very clear about one thing, he had nothing to do with the payment to daniels and he didn't give cohen the money. he said as much to reporters on air force one just last month. >> mr. president, did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. >> then why did michael cohen pay her if there was no truth around -- >> you have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney. and you'll have to ask michael. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> no, i don't know. >> seth: just think, he could have avoided that whole interview if the bathroom hadn't been occupied. [ laughter ] "look, you'll have to ask michael. come on, hurry up in there!" [ laughter ] so there you have it trump was very clear on multiple occasions. he told the american people point-blank he had nothing to do with the stormy daniels payment. didn't know where the money came from and the cohen investigation had nothing to do with him. at least that was his story until last

stephanie clifford wants to invalidate a non-disclosure agreement and payment she received to keep quiet about the alleged affair with mr. trump. mr. trump denies the affair. city leaders says she's refusing to remind quiet even under threats to her safety and intimidation. >>> you're never more than seven minutes away from your accuweather forecast. yesterday we had a failure to launch as far as the sun goes. today i think we'll see a little more of a temperature, cooler than average still, from four degrees to ten degrees as we're stuck in the mid 60s to -- the low 60s to barely 70. heading to bottlerock this weekend, ought to be a great time. look at the temperatures. starting off needing a sweatshirt friday and maybe even a poncho or something to keep you dry from the light showers to short sleeves by sunday as we hit 84 degrees under that warm sunshine. here is alexis with another look at that kind of slick commute. >> another spin-out crash, too, mike. this is on southbound 680. you want to slow down and drive for conditions this morning. a vehicle lost control, hit the right side

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. >> stormy daniels or stephanie clifford and michael avenatti are on the hunt to take down donald j. trump. they want to put a hurt on him. they have a process in place where they're trying to do that. the president by and large has done a good job of isolating this whole story away from any bad outcomes for the president. and i think the mayor, despite all the hullabaloo, he hat gotten information out there and developing a strategy to protect the president. >> what do you think of that? >> that is the opposite of true. the russia investigation, we've reached convergence of the stormy daniels story and the russia investigation this week. and giuliani's strategy to create chaos or confusion is not working. and it's not working in the short-term or the long term. and it really doesn't matter in the long term. because the legal process is going to play out. and mueller is going to do his job. they are going to do their jobs. we will find out eventually all the things that donald trump and michael cohen and associates are trying to hide. in addition, michael avenatti has been very savvy

the porn actress stephanie clifford -- her stage name is stormy daniels -- alleges she had sex with donald trump in 2006 a year after he married his wife, melania. in 2016 she was paid by trump's lawyer michael cohen. she says it was fresh money to keep her quiet about the alleged sexual encounter. the payment was made days before the 2016 election, raising questions about campaign financing violations. trump has denied having sex with daniels and previously denied knowledge of the payment made to her. but trump's new lawyer, rudy giuliani, says the u.s. president did repay his personal attorney the $130,000 that was used to silence stormy daniels, something that president trump has now confirmed via twitter. this directly contradicts trump 's earlier statements about the allegations concerning a payment that he said he didn't know anything about. during an appearance on fox news last act, the former new york city mayor mr. giuliani said the money had been funneled through trump's personal attorney's law firm, and it did not come from election campaign funds. rudy giuliani: having somethin

giuliani, tries to clear up contradictory statements around hush money given to adult film star stephanie clifford. also ahead, growing russian influence and a surge in nationalism spark tensions in bosnia. why many fear the country could be sliding back towards war. >> it's not far when we will have a military police instead of a civil police. so that's the prefix to war. >> yang: a, it's friday. mark shields and david brooks are here. we discuss rudy giuliani's bombshell-edfilleek, and the shakeup in the president's

stephany clifford, also known as stormy daniels. that's despite the president's assertion last month that he was unaware of the payment. guiliani then iued a clarification of sorts on friday that read in part, there is no campaign violation the payme was made to resolve a personal and false in order to protect the president's family. itn would have b done in any event whether he was a candidate or not. he then went on to say it is undisputed that the president's dismissal of former director comey, an inferior executive officer, was clearly within his article 2 power.it as in short a torrent of information and news driven byl increasi combative players that leave many unanswered questions about what's next for these investitions and for president trump as he reshuffles his legal team.ca l, you've been talking to rudy guiliani. the st talked to him today. why did the mayor choose now to try to get out in front of this issue talk about it as omething that wasn't a campaign violation, campaign finance violation, these payments to cohen?

issues took a backseat to the issues of president donald trump's payment to adult film actress stephanie clifford who is alsoas knowtormy daniels, and the ongoing investigation into russian meddling in u.s.s electi a who's who of presidential advisors and lawyers weighed in on sunday morning talk shows: the president's newest lawye rudy giuliani, said he can't be certain the president won't invoke the fifth amendment if he is called to testify in the russia invtigation headed by robert mueller. >> how can i ever be confident of that? when i'm facing a situation with the president and all the her lawyers are, in which every lawyer in america thinks he would be a fool to testify, i've got a client who wants to testify, please, don't. he said it yesterday. >> sreenivasan: the president'sl personyer michael cohen paid $130,000 to stormy daniels. mr. giuliani reiterated that the president repaid it, but it was not a campaign finance violation. io number one, it was not a campaign contribbecause it would have been done anyway. this is the kind of thing that i've settled for celebrities ana us people. e

there is a question of whether there was a campaign-finance violation in a payment to stephanie clifford, nona stormy daniels, made by michael cohen and reimbursed by president trump. you write, "common cause filed a complaint against drunk and his present -- trump and his presidential campaign, accusing them of violating financial law in relation to the daniels payment. does be shocked if the fec not rule on the complaint until after the 2020 presidential election, when it is conceivable trump is no longer president." to actthe fec is slow and rule on these types of cases, particularly ones that are high-profile that may have a great deal of complexity, and are just difficult to ultimately get to the core truth. we have seen this numerous times in many cases involving both democratic and republican operations, conservative and liberal. there is no partisan bend for say -- or say. -- per se. the fec needs to clear certain hurdles to get a case such as this to the level. the office of general counsel, who will do much of the vetting and investigating, can take months in order to do their

reimbursed thelawyer michael cohen for $130,000 in hush money paid to daniels, whose real name is stephanie clifford denied the arrangement was improper. the president called daniels' his claim that they had an affair -- daniels's claim that they had an affair false. president has not announced a date or location for a meeting with kim jong-un. mohammed chabad sharif said iran has met all its allegations laid out in the deal. >> in contrast, the u.s. has consistently violated the agreement, especially by bullying others from doing business with iran. in the last year or so, we have been told that president trump is unhappy with the deal. and it now appears that the response from some europeans has been to offer the united states more concessions from our pocket. mark: the 2015 nuclear agreement between iran and world powers rate wire tehran to limit its enrichment of uranium, handover stockpiles command reconfigure a heavy water reactor so it could produce put on them. in exchange for iran regained. access to the global banking system. bill cosby's wife is calling for a criminal investigation into t

. >> so you're saying that stephanie clifford made these allegations, told donald trump's lawyer, look -- >> and denied them, then said it wasn't true. however, imagine if that came out on october 15, 2016 in the middle of the last debate. >> so to make it go away -- >> cohen didn't even ask. cohen made it go away. he did his job. >> if it -- what if it came out, he asked there, right before the election? that makes a direct connection, does it not? >> you're not supposed to say that. i don't know if donald trump has made this argument, but people who are defending the president and this payment to being totally unrelated to any campaign finance laws will argue that it was just coincidental that the payment was made right before the campaign. so there is really no benefit to the campaign. the argument sgz that donald trump has gone back am a series before he was running for president. this was more about protecting his reputation, protecting his family, protecting the reputation of the trump brand. it wasn't related to the campaign. that's the argument. rudy giuliani says, you know, of

lawyer, michael cohen, to stormy daniels, that he knew that michael cohen made the payment to stephanie cliffordas asked and sometimes sometimes we as reporters ask questions and think could we have asked that more directly or the answer was not clear. we have seen that is pretty clear. what our sources tell us is at the time he made that statement, long before that he knew full well the existence of that payment. >> okay. and so now let me ask another question to this point. when you say months before the air force one statement. that statement was -- i'm going off the top of my mind, somewhere around april 5th now you are saying months before. you are not specifically saying when. but you are saying post-election or are you not 100% sure? >> well, so look. i think as with much of the reporting that we've been doing over the last 15 month it is is an iterative process. i want to be clear on not going further. there's a lot we don't know t. is not clear, you know, we are not clear in terms of the sourcing that we have and exactly when he learned of the payment. we know it was well before the air

the president accused stormy daniels, her real name is stephanie clifford of extortion. she's already suing the president for defamation, when he said she was a conartist. it's possible she's double down on that lawsuit. it's also possible they could convince a judge to force the president to take a deposition in all of this, in which he would be directly asked under oath, did you have an affair, which we should point out, the president has said he has not. but never under oath. >> we could learn a lot more. >> perhaps. >> thank you, scott. >> we're getting new details, in fact, on the golden state killer case. less than two hours ago, the judge ruled more evidence can be taken from the suspect. the defense tried to block the district attorney from getting dna, fingerprints and photos of joseph deangelo's body. deangelo was arrested last week. he's accused of killing 12 people and raping more than 50 people in the 70s and 80s. prosecutors used dna and a gene yo logical website to identify deangelo decades after the case went cold. >>> the best selling book credited with

trump's personal attorney, michael cohen said he paid the money to daniels, whose real name is stephanie clifford before the 2016 election. >> that money would you say not campai campaign. >> in recent interviews -- starting in 2017. statements trump seemed to back up on twitter. schaub says that dead must be formally reported. rudy giuliani calling thousands payments an expense or retainer. >> the agreement was to repay expenses. >> giuliani has also made contradictory arguments about whether the money amounted to a campaign expenditure. even if it was considered a campaign contribution, it was entirely reimbursed out of personal funds. >> reporter: that could put trump on the hook legally. now serves ar, schaub said if he doesn't disclose it, he'll be breaking the -- and. >> there's no way that anyone could believe this was possibly not a reportable debt. so if they're doing their jobs, they will refuse to certify it. >> they have tried to prosecute omissions, but it's unlike -- schaub says it's up to congress to force -- schaub said last year when he headed the office, trump failed to file the

a $130,000 hush money payment cohen made on the eve of the 2016 election to adult film star stephanie cliffordalso known as stormy daniels. giuliani, who recently joined josh giuliani made the comments wednesday evening in an interview with fox news host sean hannity. rudy giuliani: that money was not campaign money. i'm sorry if i'm giving you a fact he did not know -- no campaign finance violations. the president repaid it. president repaint it, giuliani said. the former mayor joined andident trump's legal team negotiated -- is negotiate with robert mueller. sarah huckabee sanders reiterated trump's denial i in march.h. secretary sandersrs: the e prest harry addressed these directly -- the presidedent addressed t e directly. the cases have already been won in arbitration, and anything more i would refer you to the outside counsel. >> will the president addressed specifically the cash payment that was made? secretary sanders: anything -- the case has been won in a patrician and anything beyond that i would refer you to outside counsel. amy: this morning, president trump tweeted a denial that

stephanie clifford, stormy daniels, filed a defamation lawsuit in federal court in new york today. and a spokesman says former president george h.w. bush will remain hospitalized until he recovers from an infection. mr. bush was admitted april 22 after attending barbara bush's funeral. global news 24 hours a day on air and on twitter powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg and you are watching "bloomberg technology." global news 24 hours a day on emily: i'm emily chang and this is "bloomberg technology." we are live at the milken institute global conference in beverly hills, california, where we have been speaking with top newsmakers. stay tuned for interviews with john thompson and u.s. treasury secretary steven mnuchin. t-mobile buying sprint for $26.5 billion stock to take on verizon and at&t. some still fear the deal will get blocked. we will hear from ceo john ledger. apple earnings are just around the corner and investors will finally have an answer, did iphone x sales live up to the hype? but first, sprint tumbling 10%

stephanie clifford, stormy daniels' legal name. neither the trump organization nor the trump campaign was a party to the transaction with ms. clifford. the question is when did that happen, i think that's really important. when did that happen, but ultimately common cause says all of it is a legal problem. >> i want to get to the news. i want everybody to standby because michael is here, and you're about to jump out of your seat. what do you think of this? when you heard this you were listening to rudy giuliani just moments ago when we played that sound bite and what was going through your mind? >> it's an absolute disgrace, don. and i'm disgusted by it. in every american regardless of their political persuasion, i don't care if you're on the left, i don't care if you're on the far right, i don't care where you line up, you should be disgusted in what has happened in connection with the lies you have been told over the last three months about this payment. you should be disgusted by the fact that the president of the united states

however, it is known mr cohen did pay $130,000 to an adult film actress, stephanie clifford, also knownan affairwith mrtrump. kim gittleson in new york. how significant is the detail of this particular payment? well it's buried on page 45 of this 90 page disclosure form, and as with these sorts of things, it raises more questions than it answers. while president trump has said in his disclosure, is it necessary for him to report the payment they're doing so to report the payment they're doing so anyway. and an accompanying letter by the united states office of government basically saying that that payment should've been included last year when he filed his financial disclosure forms. so there could've been some sort of, they say that he should've piloted as a liability, and as result that's why this footnote is included in the in the 2017 disclosure. what else we learned about this disclosure? the 2017 disclosure. what else we learned about this disclosure ?m quite a bit in here, i've been reading each and every one of these pages try to figure out what's interesting. so the squatted at

stephanie clifford. neither the trump organization or the trump campaign was a party to the transaction with ms. clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly. the payment to ms. clifford was lawful and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone. but donald trump did talk to reporters. here's what he said. >> do you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. no. what else? >> then why did michael cohen make those if there was no truth to it? >> you'll have to ask my attorney. >> lying to the press is not a crime. happens a lot, as much as it pains us to say. if he did pay him back, it would also be different. >> right. you can believe his lawyer will try to tell us anything, not to their advantage in that particular legal battle. it also generally speaking opens up the question about where else has the president and potentially michael cohen and other people in their dealings been spinning this truth to the public, just been fla

michael avenatti the attorney for stephanie clifford aka stormy daniels. thanks mr., ofavenatti. >> thank you. >> joining me now is allan serssers dershowitz. >> thank you. >> listen to this. >> even if it was for saving embarrass or if it was a campaign donation the president reimbursed it fully. >> sir, i would expect you to provide me legal analysis. this is the president's attorney trying to provide an explanation and he's providing two different explanations. has this been well thought out? >> no, i don't think so. this was a very bad week for the trump team. it was a very bad week to the mueller team in light of judge that re-buked the mueller team. the trump team has to speak with a clear narrative. it should be in writing, not on television shows off the cuff. mr. giuliani may have a point. that is motives are complicated. the money may have been paid to save embarrassment, to help the campaign, it's a close case on whether or not there's any violation of any election laws. if there are violations they don't seem to be very substantial if the presi

. >> you're saying stephanie clifford made these allegations, told donald trump's lawyer -- >> i denied them. said that wasn't true. however, imagine that came out july 15, 2016 in the middle of the last debate with hillary clinton. >> so to make this go away -- >> cohen didn't even ask. cohen made it go away. he did his job. >> he said cohen made it go away. did you have proof before this that the president knew about this or that he reimbursed cohen before rudy giuliani went on television? >> yes. >> but you were surprised he admitted it publicly? >> we didn't think it would be this easy, don. that the president's lawyer would go on television not just on one show to walk it back, but he's been on multiple shows now in the last 24 hours saying the same thing time and time again. and all this is going to be fodder for thedes we're going to take of michael cohen and mr. trump. we're going to use all of this in the depositions. >> you said you had proof he reimbursed. >> we have evidence, yeah. >> you have evidence that the president knew about all of this. >> yeah. >> okay, so would tha

. >> you're saying that stephanie clifford made these allegations, told donald trump's lawyer, look -d them. said it wasn't true. however, imagine if that came out on october 15th, 2016 in the middle of the last debate with hillary clinton. >> so to make it go away -- >> he didn't even ask. cohen made it go away. he did his job. >> joining me now to discuss, david chalian, cnn political director and former ambassador to the czech republic and april ryan, who is also white house correspondent for american urban radio networks. there's a lot to take in here. this whirl wind of contradictions is just the beginning of it. what we just heard it their, david, from rudy giuliani, essentially conferring this was a concern because of the timing. what does that lead us into? >> yeah. i mean, this cuts both ways what he said about james comey last night so he's connecting donald trump to these things that they're trying to distance him from. on the comey thing, rudy says it actually was about the russia investigation, he wanted to fire comey because he wouldn't clear him publicly and now as you

. >> stephanie clifford aka stormy daniels showing acting chops that led her to adult films, i supposer panel is with me. let's start with the basic idea of the scandal. there have been a lot of conflicting stories about what the president knew about the payment, when he knew about the payment. you heard kellyanne conway say when the president was asked about it he was talking about what he knew in 2016 and not the present day. does this concern you? i know you expressed concerns about the president and sticking to facts. does this concern you? >> i think everyone on the republican side would love to see this go away and the best way for this to go away is just to put out the information, settle the case. here is what i knew and when i knew it and move on. i don't think the american public cares much about this. i think they discounted this that the revelation would make a difference given access hollywood tapes and everything out. none of this would have made a difference. get the facts out there and move on. >> one of the issues is that they don't do that. they lie and spin, have con

today is the day the president has finally admitted that adult film actress stephanie clifford was also right about the president secretly paying her off. >> i'm confident that when we get to the bottom of this and we are going to get to the bottom of it. this case will not be settled or dismisdsed until we get to the bottom. the president knew about the agreement and the $130,000. >> that was stormy daniel's lawyer a week ago. this is today. trump acknowledging payment to porn star stormy daniels. ding, ding, ding. correct. stormy daniels and her lawyer, james comey was right. stormy daniels and her lawyer were right about the president's liability on this matter. again, as admittedly fascinating as that is for us as citizens and people observing the news, as a legal matter, how does this new admission that stormy daniels was right, how does that relate to the president's legal liability on campaign finance violations or any other potential criminal matter related to what he is now admitting. we'll figure that out this hour too with expert help. then there's also michael cohen case and

house is struggling to explain president trump's shifting accounts of his relationship with stephanie clifford, also known as stormy daniels. the adult film stawho claimed she had a sexual affair with donald trump in 2006 and then was hushed. trumpet knowledge for the first time thursday he reimbursed his lawyer for a $130,000 hush money payment made to daniels on th eve of the 2016 election. s admission came after another one of his lawyers, rudy giuliani, made the revelation during an inrview dnesday evening on fox news. at the white house, press secretary sarah huckabee sanders struggled thursday when asked about trump's earlier claims he had no knowledge of the payments. >> this was information the president did not know at the time, but eventually learned. the president continues to deny underlying claim and i've given thbe information i had at the time and i would refer you back to the comment that you yourself just mentioned a few minutes ago about the timeline for mayor giuliani. amy: giuliani's admission caught many white house officials and trump allies offguard. on fox news, host ne

all fees and expenses of this case have been funded by our client, miss stephanie clifford, stormy danielsy donations from our crowdjustice.com page. but avenatti has refused to say how he got cohen's banking records. the department of treasury is investigating. some of the records were spot on. at&t and novartis have given hundreds of thousand to learn more about the trump administration and how it would operate. the "washington post" is now reporting that at&t also paid michael cohen to consult on the merger with time-warner. the american company, columbus nova, also paid cohen but michael avenatti believes that money came from russian billionaires. the money was used to reimburse cohen for the $130,000 of hush money that he paid to stormy daniel. avenatti has offered no proof to support the claim. and also, avenatti has gotten caught in a few cases of mistaken identity. men named michael cohen but they do not represent the president and on it goes, bill. >> bill: that it does, trace. thank you. back with us in elkhart, indiana, mark and juan as we wait the president to take the stage. e

stephanie clifford is one issue. but really the funding of that nda has really become the issue. how did michael cohen finance the nondisclosure agreement, and what was his source of income more generally speaking at the time of the nondisclosure agreement. because that -- he is so close to president trump that reporters are hoping and perhaps lawyers to illuminate more about what we don't understand about how michael cohen's financial dealings worked and whether that ever had an impact or an effect on the president. >> terrific, thanks to our two returning veterans, robert costa and joyce vance. and another welcome to the broadcast to guy lewis. thank you for joining us tonight. a . >>> and coming up for us, how this all plays politically for this president, this white house, this administration. two of the very best covering this west wing standing by with their reporting. >>> and later, we've called in the man living rent free in donald trump's mind. how the firing of james comey a year ago today is affecting this white house every moment of every day since. "the 11th hour" ju

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