stephen barrett.ank you very, very much for setting that up and making it so entertaining and even getting a bit of j.r.r. tolkien in there to boot. now thank you, stephen, and join me back in the studio, of course, my superstar panel, conservative mp for romford, andrew rosindell and peter tatchell, the human rights campaigner and activist. now, andrew, i want to start with you. this time. so what do you make of the fact that we have legislation now, which basically makes it okay to discriminate against white men ? discriminate against white men? >> it's discrimination. it's wrong. this equalities act needs to go and i hope that will be dumped once we have a new government in a few years time, because it's done a huge amount of damage, terribly divisive. >> you could have dumped it when you were in power. >> look, the last government failed on a whole range of things. in future, we've got to get these things right. the equalities act is divisive. it divides people up . we're all divides people up. we

a lot of people totally agree and i asked stephen barrett barrett earlier how in the name of god, iserman chancellor, who, by the way, last week sir keir starmer went to visit to try and do an illegal immigration deal. and i don't know if they did do a deal, but now the german chancellor has taken rishi sunak's deal simply astonishing. you just could not make the story up. i've got one more quick email to go through here, john says this smash the gangs. which gangs? no one has a clue who controls his gangs or who they are or what they do. smash one gang and another one will simply spring up. so surely the only way to deter these migrants is to refuse all benefits and to help build the country with that money, instead . country with that money, instead. john. common sense it'll never catch on. now moving on. sir ian mckellen regarded himself as british acting royalty, and he's decided to take aim and have a p0p decided to take aim and have a pop at the royal family, including the late queen elizabeth. now the lord of the fings elizabeth. now the lord of the rings thespian said prince h

. >> joining me now, barrister and writer stephen barrett. ining me . so stephen, i want to ask me. so stephen, i want to ask you first. so jas archewell, you had about 15 properties. i think you had 15. seven of those 15 didn't have a licence. as i understand it. is he breaking a law because this was something that he introduced? is he actually breaking a law? >> well, i don't want to definitively say that he was or wasn't breaking a law. >> i don't want to insert myself, embroil myself in some legal mess. >> what i can say is that there are huge ream of laws that apply to landlords in order to stop them acting in a rogue capacity before coming on the show. >> as you would expect, i have read the government's advice on it. it's 88 pages and it's directed at local councils because it's the council's job to enforce these laws against rogue landlords. and mr athwal ran his council. >> this is this is obviously important. >> and to show that i have no party political animus at all. i think the mayor of london is right. the mayor of london is a la

let's let's talk with the barrister and writer stephen barrett, because stephen, this guido fawkes articleg at the moment at which you sign your nomination papers. they cite a previous case to do with paul nuttall, a previous ukip leader who got into some hot water here. do you think there's a case to answer here? >> now, that is quite an old rule, tom. and i think what i should do is distinguish between sort of old rules and new rules, because what's happened since this government came into office is that there are alleged rule breaching across the board on appointment of people to jobs, on declaring expenses and on other issues. this older rule goes back to the tradition that we will know where our politicians live, that they are somehow connected to the land. >> that's very, deeply important to us. >> when we got rid of the corruption that we had in our political process in the in the 17th and 18th centuries, we invented a system of, of not very many rules, but rules that we enforced quite strictly. and this is one of them. and if this has been breached , then that is has been breached,

i spoke to stephen barrett, who's a lawyer.e hasn't, surely this should trigger some sort of there should be an investigation and clearly what's interesting is when the labour party have people that they dislike, they're very quick to suspend and investigate and lose the whip and lose the whip, lose my seat, >> in a personal kind of level that happened to me, but when it's people they do like, then it's people they do like, then it takes a bit longer. i think there needs to be fairness here and accountability. i actually think that there's a problem with parliament that we let the parties do that element of it, because of course, then people will always be trying to protect their own. and we saw the conservatives doing that a lot in the last government. well, let's not blame. got them into a big mess. >> let's not bring them. >> let's not bring them. >> i'm not blaming the conservatives. i know what you're saying. >> i want to bring them in because it caused the conservatives a lot of problems, and it would have been better if