i met with stephen benjamin who is the mayor of columbia south carolina because i had worked in south carolina when i was at the southern elections fund helping to get that selected in the 70s. when i talked to him, he's also the national president of the black mayors. so, i told him how we were going to organize with him to help mobilize voter registration. because i've seen the wave coming based upon all of those now speaking out on voting rights as of one of those issues that it sprang from. those families or individuals that were killed. >> going back to that awful tragedy, some of the things that people are talking about, what are those things that you think are so important? >> well, one of the things that came out was the issues of gun control and another thing that came out was a flag. and i think that the mormon republican you know giving them the kudos. he spoke out and essentially he cut off the ring inbox then a lot of republican legislators. they forced them to back down and reverse their position. the same thing with hillary clinton. she was a strong voice. forced every