joining us is francis chan and stephen lamb. pollution, an important issue.re also insurance implications. >> if you talk about the health care expanding the asia-pacific area, it is estimated to reach 1.3 -- $1.3 trillion in 2013. in 2018, it is expected to rise to $1.8 trillion. most unfortunately, most asian governments don't have a project for it. they only pay for less than 50% of spending, which will leave huge room for growth of private health insurance companies. >> that is one of the big trades, isn't it? people investing in china, health care. it is one of the most crowded trades around. there'll be problems with health insurance. >> yes, of course. what we have seen is that companies like picc have lost a lot of money and shaved off profits because of running these government commissioned programs. up for .5 billion yuan in health insurance premiums, but the average cost and the average premium per person is 45 yuan. money?do they make that is the problem. with pollution, but other things , andll -- critical illness one of the other critical things