flynn who trump has suggested will be back in a second administration and who said the gates of hell would be unleashed under trump. and people like felon steve bannon and child separation vampire stephen miller. which is why democratic vice president kamala harris is holding events across three states today with conservative republican liz cheney, with a key message about what's actually at stake. >> don't think that congress can stop him. people say, well, you know what, he can't really do the worst because congress will step in. all he has to do is what he's doing, is say i won't fulfill our nato treaty obligations and nato begins to unravel. >> we have in our grasp the ability to determine the course of our country. you know, every election, we say this is the one. this is the one. this truly is the one. >> joining me now is david jolly, msnbc political analyst and former republican congressman. and christina greer, associate professor of political science at fordham university and author of the forthcoming book, how to build a democracy. thank you both for being here. i want to start with you first, david, because you were in congress. when liz cheney said that, i thought it was c