stephen hopkins said it had been to catch a deer. as we were looking at it, william bradford gave a sudden jerk up and was immediately caught and hoisted into the air. admire it, aon to pretty device, and having an news as artfully made as any roper in england could make. bradford did not mention the episode at all and it probably did nothing to improve his view of the natives. it is important to remind ourselves that not all of the colonists held to the same beliefs and principles. while sharing many european attitudes, winslow always seemed interested in native inhabitants and developed a close relationship with the wampanoag -- a wampanoag. bradford was more critical. in the early chapters of his history, he wrote of them as to fillarbarians ready the pilgrims with arrows. he described the landscape as they first encountered it as a hideous and desolate wilderness filled with wild beasts and wild men. but his harshest views were and one to his poetry, poem castigating natives as a people without god or law, and marveling that the

i think he leaves stephen hopkins and a few others for a trading scenario, a meet and greet. that evening when he was in one of the houses, they said squanto had a nosebleed that would not stop. he had something that was called indian fever back then. some type of hemorrhaging going on. when he was lying on his deathbed, he asked the english if he would be accepted into their gods. although he might have been a changed person, he knew what he was doing. this guy right here does not get much praise in the textbooks. if it was not because of this guy, history would have definitely been different today. he made the treaty with the english in 1621, he needed somebody else -- his village was 40 miles west. he needed an ambassadorship out here. not out here, but in plymouth colony. he actually lived in between stephen hopkins and the fields with his family of over 10 people. 10, 15 years of his life. he was the closest native the english considered to be a friend. they did not say much about his family. they say he has more than one wife. i wish i knew one of his wife's names, beca

briefing led today by angela mclean, the deputy chief scientific officer, susan hopkins from public health england, and also stephenugh he said he is asymptomatic. as you would expect, the question is dominated by what we can expect once the national lockdown in england ends on the 2nd of december, and in particular what might happen at christmas. there is lots of coverage in the papers this morning of that. different reporting in terms of what might be allowed at christmas with various reports on possible household mix going. let's get the thoughts of two experts who we re get the thoughts of two experts who were watching that alongside me. dr kit yates, who's a senior lecturer in the department of mathematical sciences at the university of bath. he's also a member of the group of scientists that call themselves independent sage — giving alternative scientific advice on the pandemic. also with me in the studio our health corresponded. nick, what were the headlines for you? the questions about christmas were very interesting, and the fact that susan or susan hopkins said it is poppers, it possible to have something