now stephen hopkins didn't come to the north america for the first time on the mayflower stephen hopkins, was it jamestown? he was there at 16:09 16 10. he had left london left his wife in three children there as he went all with what a band of aristocratic adventurers. not religiously inspired not pilgrims people who were out looking for the main chance and who didn't have very much of a commitment to labor for themselves because they were used to having things done for them. hopkins had been a ministerial assistant and he went off as an industrial assisted. he had administrative functions for the governor assisting the governor as well as being a reader in congregation, so he obviously had some religious background. but hopkins soon got into trouble. remember jamestown went through terrible times. they nearly starved to death. they mismanaged the place they wouldn't work for themselves and the abuse the natives. but for some reason we don't know because he was not a literary man hopkins. he didn't leave us a diary or books to explain himself. no abstract principles. we only know he was

my point is this. 1620 there was a stephen hopkins there. who was someone who was fighting to build a life? that had nothing to do with the question of slavery and had everything to do with a solid grasp on those middle-class principles and values and individualism. which ultimately characterized the society? and i would submit. far more characteristic of this society than anything you see described in the 1619 project. i think it's the project itself. the 1619 project is focused on privilege because of new york times came into being in the early 1850s after defender of privilege has never changed and that's all they know how to talk about. but the point is this. ask yourself. remember i said they're still descendants of hopkins here. ask yourself this question. why would the university become the kind of nation that could end slavery might have something to do with the kind of soul that stephen hopkins was? and the fact that they were very many of them. remember as we whip through the civil war. over 600, americans lost their lives on both

joshua sharfstein, by stephen of the johns hopkins school of public health.g us this morning. we look at a u.k. that is moving at least, in theory, to have any more endemic stage of the pandemic, looking at lifting restrictions come january 26. is the evidence there that we are looking at the endemic stage? >> i think it really does depend on who "we" are, where this is actually happening. the virus can be causing a lot of problems in one part of the country and then in another part, it can really come down, the cases can really drop dramatically in the situation could look different. i think we have to think about the pandemic a little bit like we think about the weather. sometimes it is really good and we know we don't have to carry an umbrella around. other times, we need the umbrella. right now i think it is foreseeable that the cases will continue to drop in the united kingdom and as a result, it is appropriate to lift restrictions. just because they are doing at this minute doesn't mean it might not be raining in part of the united states and we would e