the president did not talk about a an announcement to replace stephen miller. he is speaking today later at a press kamps. >> thank you, susan. >>> we are learning more about the administration's response to the attack in benghazi, libya. the white house has released 100 documents 99 of them e-mails showing how the administration came to the so-called talking points used to describe the attack. the documents show then cia director david petraeus objected to the final version because he wanted more details revealed to the public. the first draft was changed removing direct references to al qaeda and a warning about potential attacks. major garrett has our report. >> reporter: e-mails reveal how the first draft of cia talking points prepared for u.n. ambassador susan rice watered down direct references to al qaeda links to the benghazi attacks and warnings about potential attacks. this is the first version of the benghazi talking points produced by the cia on september 14th, 2012. it says that the benghazi assaults may have been quote spontaneously inspired by th

i asked what he wants to know from stephen miller.kevin said. >> i want to know what he knew, when he found out. and why he didn't disclose any of this to the congress knowing that we were inquiring about this, because we had been hearing that people had been targeted and we were trying to get answers. i want to know what he knew. i want to know when he knew it and i want to know from his standpoint what they've done to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> reporter: this is kind of a rare thing and unusual. a man who was just fired a couple days later will now be testifying on capitol hill. we were wondering whether or not he was going to show up. dave kevin said, yes, he will show up, his lawyer told him so, one of the reasons is stephen miller is there for the irs. even though he was asked to leave, he is still the floor per congress when they do tear oversight into what exactly happened at the irs. >> stand by on that. still with the same topic. the irs in that scandal. jim acosta, congress woman michelle bachman for many people

jim, you just got the letter that the treasury secretary jack lou wrote to stephen miller.learly this administration trying to show they are angry about this scandal. what else does the letter say? >> erin, i mean, this is a letter you don't see released very often in washington and to the public. this is it. this say letter from the treasury secretary jack lu to acting irs commissioner stephen miller and it says "while i very much appreciate your many years of loyal service at the irs, i find it necessary at this time to request your resignation." short and to the point. and another sign that the president is starting to get serious about this scandal. with a growing chorus of criticism that president only offered a weak response to political targeting at the irs, mr. obama seized the moment to get tough. >> today secretary lu took the first step by requesting and accepting the resignation of the acting commissioner of the irs because given the controversy surrounding this audit, it's important to institute new leadership. >> at a hearing on the widening scandal, eric hold

irs commissioner stephen miller took responsibility for his failings and abusive acts of his departmentespite his inability to answer principal questions. a noble gesture from a man who was scheduled to leave this position prior to the president demanding his resignation. we have more on what was a volatile session on capitol hill. >> i resigned because, as the acting commissioner, what happens in the irs, whether i was personally involved or not, stopped at my desk. i should be held accountable for what happens. >> was the irs using inappropriate right area in its review? >> yes. >> did the irs ask inappropriate questions? againn yes. >> i alerted the general counsel on june 4 and i do not have the date, alerted the deputy secretary. >> they were aware of complaints ahead of the presidential election. one file for nonprofit status and the fbi domestic terrorism got involved and her business and personal returns or audited. >> the irs never told the american people or their representatives about this simple truth. in fact, we were repeatedly told no such targeting was happeng. that is n

do you think stephen miller misled the congress? guest: that is a question a lot of people are still trying to figure out as we look at the chain of events. we know the started in 2010, but the interior -- that the criteria was in place for 18 months where people were trying to do the job they had in front of them. we looked at the surge in pplications and it does come at a time where there are fewer staff members that are working in the division. one of the things the report commented on is that many of these organizations that were targeted and profiled with buzz words would have deserved scrutiny even if a more robust approach would've been used. some were inappropriately delayed and some of them that went through the process with more expediency should have been flagged. i think a lot of people are waiting for more answers on the topic. host: back to the phones, our conversation with michael beckel, the center for public integrity. pennsylvania, democrat line. caller: hi, can you hear me ok? ost: i sure can. caller: what i want

stephen miller told congress that he and lerner talked about getting the information out.erner then contacted a lawyer, a partner in the morgan louis law firm. i received a call from lois lerner. show asked me to pose a question and i agreed to do so and she gave me the question that i asked in the meeting the next day and that gave lerner a chance to explain some conservative groups were targeted a head of the inspector general's report. >> thank you, molly. our coverage will continue inside of the fox report and we'll look at the key scandal. it is our top story in the bottom of the hour. turning to another controversy, the deadly attack on your consulate in benghazi, libya. they have issued a subpeona to talk to pickering. he said previously that he would testify, but congressman darril issa said the subpeona that pickering must give a private deposition is what they want. >> harris, the back and forth of the witness testimony continues. the chairman issuing a subpeona to the co-chair of the review board that investigated the september lenth terrorist attacks. darril is

stephen miller, the irs commissioner was planning to leave on june 1st. this was a convenient scapegoat. the president wants the bad story to go away. it will not. we'll have hearings and we'll follow the facts and where that takes us, that's where we will go. the big question is how is the white house connected and who made the order? it is all federal agencies manage to make decisions to help and assist the president's reelection efforts. that's what it is about. we need answers and more importantly, the american people need their confidence restored. we can't have the irs enforce obama care. >> president obama said he found out when everyone else saw it. do you believe it? and if you do believe it, who is running the place? >> that's the question. that's why the pest thing the president could do is saying i am directing everyone in my administration to coptwith the congressional committee and release all e-mail and phone call logs and text messages and be forth right and truthful. machine ordered this. i worked in the irs agency, this department just h

. >> that is an interesting point and stephen miller who was under the grill spoke to this point. we have a sound bite where whether it was mismanagement or partisship. >> i don't believe that partis anship motivated the people engaged in the practices described in the attorney general report. >> this is a definition of partisanship. when you single people out on the basis of their ideology. >> the problem is with big and growingovernment and particularly when the president obama of the united states is a fan of big government. this is what you get. you have scandal with benghazi and the less accountability. ngo a head morgan. >> it is not a partisan issue but an issue of political donations and whether the names get revealed. >> i don't care who the president is under these circumstances, the irs is clearly dysfunctional and lois lernor was promoted under president bush. gang, we have to wrap it at th. and if the irs played politics with these groups, what about enforcing the president's health care law? that's what michelle batch batch wants to know. new numbers showing that ame

we know stephen miller and another top official with the irs resigned.ome republicans say that is not enough. both executive terms were up in the next several months any way. >> this is a problem to the irs being too large, too intrusive. >> reporter: we will continue arintoas it goes on. live in washington, kyla campbell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> syria is getting a boost in advanced missile support from russia. the missiles are outfitted with an an advanced guidance. the missiles will allow syria to prevent any attempts to international forces to strengthen syrian rebels. >>> gave witness protection to known and suspected terrorists. the u.s. marshal service somehow lost track of two of those people. both are now to be believed to be living outside of the u.s.. they do not believe they pose any current threat. >>> there is new federal guidelines for wine makers. that could change the way local wine makers use social media. profiles will be treated like an advertisement. which means they will have to include their address somewhere on their page. brewerie

acting commissioner stephen miller had been aware of the agency's effort to put greater scrutiny on conservative groups as early as 2012. he told staffers in an internal memo that he'll be departing in early june when his acting assignment ends. president obama announced miller's resignation and described his own outrage over the whole issue. >> the misconduct that had been covered is unexcusable. it's inexcusable and americans are right to be angry about it. i am angry about it. i will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency but especially in the irs. given the power that it has and the reach that it has and all of our lives. and as i said earlier, it should not matter what political party you're from, the fact is that the irs has to operate with absolute integrity. >> the initial republican response to the move was positive. congressman darrell isa calling it a good first step. but with a full schedule of hearings looming, other republicans framed the scandal and stark criminal terms if the wrongdoing extended beyond the halls of the irs. >> these are the tactics of the third world. t

the problem was that stephen miller was set to leave that post in early june.y in the next couple of months. i talked to an official very close to miller last night. that is a fact. that is just another wrinkle to this whole thing that just adds to the temperature going up on both sides of the aisle. >> at the end of last night news conference, i still do not know who ordered this probe of conservatives. i do not know how far it goes and i am not so sure that the president will actually find out. you have to have a special prosecutor who can subpoena. who can demand answers. i think that there will be a call for a special prosecutor pretty quickly. you have the department of justice who is already embroiled in defending itself in this ap investigation and trying to defend and explain what happened with the broad back that it sent out in this investigation that deals with a leak investigation. you have, you know, the situation with the irs and the new habit than gauzy gauzy situation. all three of these things do not lend themselves to a confidence on either sid

on if they think that ministration and the president has responding to this appropriately well stephen miller of course wasn't around when this happened the person that was there was a bush appointee if that happens if we just make it doesn't make a difference because neither one of them knew about it it was a witness and try to build up all what here's what steven miller did wrong ok all he did wrong is once he came into power and he learned what happened he should have informed congress about it that was a mistake and he's gone for that reason but let's not pretend that this was some you know obama conspiracy what happened were people in cincinnati were trying to get the politics out of these taxes which they should do what they should have done for left and right and not right alone that was their mistake they should have basically made more companies kick them out progress. as well as consider the conversation of mike and i worry that we get caught up in you know this bad person did this bad thing there's academic studies done looked at the systemic evidence for instance if you live in a

there is the democrat from wisconsin now grilling stephen miller.et's listen. >> your resignation to the president. he has accepted that. is that right? >> i have done so to the secretary. >> okay. any other instances of accountability, as far as those in charge of the cincinnati office? >> i think i mentioned that there were two instances where there was counseling suggested and there was a re- assignment to someone. what i should say is we now have possession of the facts with respect to the report. now it is time we should be looking at that. >> any pushback and some of the recommendations that they are making? >> there is no error between the recommendations. >> is there any rules for the congress to make sure that something like this does not happen in the future. to feel like there is sufficient personnel in order to expedite the review of these. >> there is not. >> let me ask you, i think part of the problem is the definition of the criteria of primarily engaged in social welfare with no clear bright lines or clear rules. i think the irs is t

a day after firing the acting commissioner for irs stephen miller, they are attempting to rebuild therust in the irs. >> we have to make sure it is doing its job scrupulously. >> president obama called for improved training and faster military response to protect the military outpost. >> we need congress to work with us so we can fully implement all of the recommendations. >> the republicans say in march, congress provided more than 2 billion more to address embassy security. the phone records, mr. obama shrugged it off. you can draw your own conclusions. >> the president said he has complete confidence in attorney general holder. >> he does his job with integrity and i expect he will do so. nmr. obama said there are dangerous outpost and part of his job and protecting them and what they do. >> thank you. now to the new kids on the block when it comes to administration problems, in this case out of the cellblock. they join us weeks after the white house explanation. you may recall last february releasing 2,000 detain authority eehs and they do so. and at the time. jay carney assured r

wagons and said those organizations needed to be investigated and even in the hearings where stephen miller before the house ways and means committee. demdeps are asking questions that only mistakes were made and nothing was intentional and is that credible? >> no. peggy had a article in the wall street journal and talked about well is not any likelihood that it was random. they were asking people for what bocks they read and what speeches they gay and thoughts about different political candidates and the level of this, there is no way there is not a paper trail on this. i am assuming and this is the government, nothing just sort of understand spontaneously. i guarantee you there is a paper trail a couple of inches thick approving the process and there is documentation that people were targeting simply for showing the concern about the direction of government and showing opposition to government policies. >> you know tis almost as if the phrase would be show me your papers and that is what rings in all of this. this is one of several controversies that the president is facing. give us a gra

. >> the outgoing irs acting commissioner stephen miller pushed out because of the scandal called ingram a superb sufficiently service. show will provide the same horrendous customer service implementing obama care as she did managing the tax exempt office. ntea party express chairman amy crammer said it is a symptom of a larger issue. great to have you here. >> letty talk about what is at play. i know the tea party groups are planning to sue the government. are you going to join them? >> we are not. we were not targeted. but this is going on for a long time and i am glad it has come to light and the american people see what is going on. and i don't think congress will let it go. it will not be swept under the rug. >> how would you characterize the hearings that was filled with a lot of drama yesterday? >> it was very contentious. the irs, miller acted like he was bothered and irritated that he had to be there and answer to congress. it is like they are above the law. we cannot allow them to continue down the path. it is not only the irs. like you said in the introduction, i think it is

acting irs commissioner stephen miller was first informed on may 3 of last year, about his agency's practice of targets conservatives, and tea party groups applying for tax exempt status, miller failed to inform congress for more than a year even as he wrote numerous letter to congress in which he explained how tax exempt approval, the process, worked. treasury secretary jack lew. did not speak about the irs admission for 5 days. he waited 5 days before making any sort of comment to the american people, and state department, who could forget former secretary of state hillary clinton's fiery response to questions about her role in the troubin!! scrubbing of infan rice talking points. >> we have 4 dead americans is s is it because of a protester guys out for a walk some night, what difference tip does it make? lou: that difference could turn out to be an historical one that could shake the administration that miss clinton served for 4 years, a white house document dump of post benghazi e-mails revealed that saturday before ambassador susan rice's 5 talk show appearances mrs. clinton'st chief o

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only two witnesses are scheduled today, stephen miller, who was ousted wednesday as acting irs commissionerreasury inspector general for tax administration. >> a possible breakthrough on emigration. a bipartisan group of house members said that they had a deal on sweeping legislation. the bill is being drafted right now. meanwhile, an immigration bill is before in the senate, where the judiciary committee held their third work session today to plow through some 300 admit men spirit >> an army sergeant will spend a rest of his life in prison without parole for killing five fellow service members a combat stress clinic and i wreck. sergeant john russell was sentenced yesterday. he will be transferred to fort leavenworth in kansas. the 40 year veteran previously pleaded guilty the on premeditated murder to try to get the death penalty off the table. prosecutors are able to prove that the killings were premeditated. the 2009 shooting was one of the worst cases of soldier on soldier violence in the war. defense attorneys argued there russell was diluted by depression at the time of the shootings

chief obama tapping the office of management budget office to take the head of the agency but stephen millerscheduled to lew testify tomorrow the first on the scandal we have tim griffin from arkansas a member of that committee. first of all, tell me what you want to hear and what question will you be asking? >> i want to know did the irs target conservative groups in response to the letters it receives from senator schumer and senator levin or did it do this on its own? what is the origin of this idea and also why after numerous questions to the officials at the irs and the forms of letters and hearings, why the irs did not update members of congress when they learned this was going on. gerri: lots of questions clearly. but i have asked a couple of senators wrote letters asking them to go after these groups was that the impetus for this chasing down of the tea party? >>. >> look at what the irs was doing but it looks like they we're doing was senator levin asked them to do and senator schumer asked them to do. this is another reason why we need tax reform. if you take the complexity at of t

. >> michael: outgoing irs commissioner stephen miller testified that the whole ordeal was an incredibly idea. he's right. but oregon senator highlighted another bad idea. >> if political organizations do not want to be scrutinized by the government they shouldn't seek privileges like tax-free status and anonymity for their donors. to argue otherwise is to advantage tax cheats to the detriment of law-abiding americans. >> michael: i love that point that he's making. if you're going to complain about t don't apply for it. if you don't want to be scrutinized don't seek tax exempt status. but it's not limited to right wing political front groups. one real scandal is our corporate tax structure letting profitable companies skip out on paying their share. apple tim cook found himself in the hot seat today. the tech giant appeared to defend his company from a scathing report issueed yesterday. it reports that it created off-shore ebbetties entities to avoid paying tax dollars. >> we pay all the taxes we owe every single dollar. we not only comply with the laws but we comply with the spirit of

stephen miller, the acting commissioner with his head down saying -- not even raising his hand -- hadtact, at least courtesy and respect. he looks down at the table as h replies to my did not like and when, in fact, he was lying through his teeth by omission. >> i have been around governmen for a while. a round of bureaucrats and several of ministrations. but when mid-level government bureaucrats to have a pension and a job on the line, they did not instigate these things by themselves. it has to come from someplace else. i did not care what they say an what day and night. that has to come paul winehouse. lou: will we see the oversight committee, the ways and means committee, any one of hese committees jpmorgan the truth here? >> i think i said will work and work and work. one of the people that ppt them on that committee, very smart, and high integrity. lou: turning to the judiciary committee that reported up the so-called gang of eight and a senate plan, your thoughts abou that and its likelihood of succeeding to passage in both the house and senate? >> it may pass in the senate. th

american people why they did what they did, how they're going to fix it, and frankly, for what was stephen millero said we had some bad customer service. no, you didn't. you lied. you targeted. you cheated. you may have broken the law. >> this past week when they testified, they were so petulant. they acted as if they were put out to be there. >> aren't they getting paid by the taxpayers? now you won't answer our questions, but you tr ge target people, discriminate against americans based on their political ideology. why don't you get a job in north korea or china? you're better suited there. >> the groups targeted are pulling together and filing lawsuits against the irs. do you think they have a case? >> i think they should have a case. this precedent should be established to make sure this does not happen again. you have to have a system of checks and balances so when there's an abuse of government and federal short like this, there's somebody who hold them in check. >> how do they get to the bottom of it if the irs can't audit or investigate itself, the attorney general is under fire for the f

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i think when you look at the substance in the hearing, stephen miller did say, look, i admit, we need to have better guidelines for how to deal with political groups. he admit they'd do deal differently with political groups. when are you talking about what is allowed for a tax exempt status, 501(c)(4)s, that's what the subject is, they are allowed to do political activity not primarily political activity. so it is something they have to generally scrutinize more than other things. it is required of them by law. the way they went about it and the way they really just asked unnecessary questions, pretty over the top questions like are your donor, that is a group not allowed. he said, we need better guidelines. of course, he asked congress for more money, not a shocker there. we need more explanation of how we need to do that. that might be something congress has to do. >> the republicans aroundt so much asking that question. it still strikes me, john, that this acting commissioner can't name names, can't say who is responsible. he said, i'm not saying i didn't do anything wrong, but he

stephen miller from the irs when we find out success he subsequently that mr.ler was scheduled to resign and leave the irs as of the early part of june. this is what all the tea party leaders behind me want to know what was it that the white house knew? were they involved? were they involved in the directive? that's why there will be a question for e-mails from the president of the united states. and he will in his administration will be fully cooperative with the united states congress so we can restore the american trust in the irs. >> mark: whatever. i want to play--what you were saying david when the obama-care tie is made. >> i'm a physician i'm quite worried about the privacy of medical words. i'm quite worried that your meller records will be evaluated by the irs. >> that's why it's crucial that we ask these questions now when the most sensitive personal intimate information are our healthcare information will be all snarlized in a national federal database. who will access to that database? for what purpose? will our most personal information be used to

wagons and said those organizations needed to be investigated and even in the hearings where stephen millerore the house ways and means committee. demdeps are asking questions that only mistakes were made and nothing was intentional and is that credible? >> no. peggy had a article in the wall street journal and talked about well is not any likelihood that it was random. they were asking people for what bocks they read and what speeches they gay and thoughts about different political candidates and the level of this, there is no way there is not a paper trail on this. i am assuming and this is the government, nothing just sort of understand spontaneously. i guarantee you there is a paper trail a couple of inches thick approving the process and there is documentation that people were targeting simply for showing the concern about the direction of government and showing opposition to government policies. >> you know tis almost as if the phrase would be show me your papers and that is what rings in all of this. this is one of several controversies that the president is facing. give us a grade o

the irs targeting conservative groups by calling for more action even after the head of the irs stephen millerd yet. >> obama: it doesn't matter if you're democrat or republican, you should be equally outraged at even the prospect of the irs might not be acting with the kind of complete neutrality that we expect. i think we're going to be able to fix it. we'll get there and get it done, and we've already begun that process. we'll keep on going until it's finished. >> michael: we all loved watching the marine holding the president and prime minister. that was attention getting at the rose garden. the senior official at the office of management and budget will step in as acting director of the irs starting next week. the democrats seem to be regaining the political narrative today. today nancy pelosi placed it squarely on the supreme court's citizen united decision. >> the actions highlight why we must overturn citizens united. as you know a very thin line we must pass a law that makes it much clearer that the so-called social organizations would like to make their priorities promoting social we

. >> current irs chief stephen miller who resigned last week and will be replaced tomorrow apologized on replace of the irs. the irs official plans to avoid the witness stand at a house hearing tomorrow by invoking her fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. >>> super bowl l is headed here. the surprise reaction in san francisco and the preparations for the game. >>> i'm inside a wind tunnel to show you how strong a it tornado can be. Ñw? >>> super bowl l in 2016 has been awarded to san francisco. >> that was the reaction from inside santa clara city hall. the bay area will be home to super bowl l. the bay area hasn't hosted a super bowl since 1985. the entire region is abuzz with plans to make l one the world will never forget. david stevenson with the low tech way the play your got the news today. >> reporter: news of the win brought big cheers here to san francisco city hall. now the hard work begins. ed lee got the word during an event honoring the golden state warriors. an aide brought him a note saying that san francisco bay area won the rights to host super bowl l. le

in the hot seat, stephen miller, the acting irs commissioner who was forced to resign yesterday was forced lot of questions. right off the bat, he rejected accusations that he has misled anybody about this whole story. >> mr. chairman, i did not mislead congress or the american people. i answered the questions as they were asked. >> well, the house ways and means cramer david camp put it the way the irs failed the american people. a ranking democrat san sander levin agreed. he took assertion that it is rooted in the obama administration in the warning we must seek truth not political gain. that's his quote. dana baschuck is live on capitol hill. this is one of those day, where committee hearings can be really boring or electric. i think this is the latter. give me the headlines from what you have been watching. >> i think the first question the people want to know, did we learn anything new about why this happened? the answers that the acting commissioner is giving, steven miller, is he insists it's because they got flooded with letters for tax exempt status, they doubled, allowing some of

stephen miller and mr. shulman of the irs, they're not black.ries of racism are as flimsy as hillary's poll numbers, dropping just as fast. some blame benghazi, but there's another reason. hillary is black. oops. that's a reflex. she's a woman. the fact is as your world view crumbbles, the only way to avoid relate is an excuse that smears your skeptics because of criticism. it's a scam that reveals an intellectual emptiness as well as a vicious streak that let's s you damage reputations to save your own skin. if you kansa disagree with me, s probably because i'm short. >> you know, kimberly, it's that kind of hate crime. she said its true that i'm short. you know what? short people are the last people allowed to be persecuted in this world, right, dana? >> bob: right. in sexual orientation you can't do that any more. short people, definitely. >> kimberly: you've got heels. >> large people, dana. you make me sick. >> dana: you need to put lifts in your shoes. >> can i read her comment after she said this? she said, to be clear, i didn't call anyb

out there on the irs story, also, effectively in taking swift, decisive action, getting rid of stephen miller. appointing a new acting irs commissioner. >> for four months. nobody is going to believe that that is any effectiveness at all. i got to go to you on this, this make nos sense. all right. keith is doing the best he can to spin this. but the reality is four months, can you not put a guy in. the second reality is the inspector general's report. some people think it's okay. other people are questioning it. you need a special council to go through wit a fine tooth comb. you also need a special council to make recommendations this won't happen again. the i.g. report doesn't do that. that's why i think today's actions guy was back paddling by the president. there is nothing going on here. >> well, with all respect to my friend keith, i think he's living in an alternate universe if he watches the press conference an thinks the president performed ably and made things better for himself. just the opposite. if we are focusing on one of the scandals the irs scandal. he as you mentioned decline