. >> there is no gray in stephen miller's approach to this. he thought it was a good idea. one of my questions you can answer is because he still think it is a good idea -- does he think it is still a good idea? >> people quote him and are familiar with his thinking says that the harshest emigration policy was his most popular and successful accomplishment of the entire administration. he does still believe in separating families and really doing anything to seal the border, stopping at nothing to do that. he has even made clear to close confidantes and people familiar with where he is on these issues that is my work has been laid for the ada future trump administration or a future -- for the future trump administration or a future conservative administration that these policies can be pursued more quickly and more dramatically than they were in the past. he believes, he unequivocally knew this idea and exerted a pressure shamelessly. he would call not only kirstjen nielsen but all of her advisers and even lower people in dhs, people who had n

stephen miller, by the way you see on tv or streaming -- he's all over the place these days. erything these days. >> you write the people who know miller say he believes zero dollar save lives on immigration enforcement was traditional popular complement among his base. mueller has told them that the administration laid the groundwork necessary for a future president to implement harsh enforcement even more quickly and with greater reach than under trump. if anyone is likely to lead another push for a government to separate families of the stephen miller. for a year and a half i tried to reach him so i could ask him, a mug of the things, why he had lobbied so forcefully for this to occur in the first place and whether he would do so again in the future. a close friend of miller and his wife explained that ever since the couple became parents, they have been consumed by childcare care and were hard to reach. again, i will put it out there, stephen miller you are invited to come on the show and i will have caitlin back and we can have this discussion. why is he so into this? wha

we're back with stephen miller, founder of america first legal.orsing in the current races, but let's look at biden's approval rating because it is continuing to bounce back and forth around record lows. you've got fires to put out everywhere you look whether it's foreign policy or or economic policy, now, of course, we are in a recession. two quarters of contraction largely due to all of this spending, and they're going to spend more right now approving another major package. why are the republicans not winning more? >> that's a great question. perhaps the most important question. let's break that down. so our nation is in the midst of a historic series of crises; an innation crisis, a labor force dropout crisis, a crime crisis in our cities, an energy crisis, one foreign policy crisis after another, a radical ideology crisis in our schools and a border crisis that that has no comparison point in the history of nations. so why aren't we forecast to win a massive majority in the senate? put aside the fact that some of these are more purple states.

have a great weekend, stephen miller's. >> stephen: thanks.ey banded together and made sure lots of money went over there to stop putin's power grab. 's invasion. when biden's crooked attorney general invades the former president's house and abuses his power, i don't hear much. have you? you think republicans would be on every tv channel saying how outraged. no. a lot of them are on vacation. we have had some on this week but it has not been a lot. when are we going to hear anything from these guys? the founder of america majority and he joins me now. you talk about these guys are for limited government. in the air against the abuse of federal power. they are for personal privacy, private property, and to protect the authority of the commander-in-chief as the executive of the country? hello? has anybody heard anything from anybody on the republican party about this raid? >> the left banks on getting away from their abuse of power because as a feckless gop. i was stunned. i found it repulsive that republican senate leadership cannot be bothered

do you and stephen miller ever call mingle after work? that is classified.t. you like that combination? where are we at here? oh ta. it is an australian brand. don't be jealous. that is all four of us tonight. just a little housekeeping. i am going on vacation again next week and i will not be going to napa. i will be going somewhere else. i will have a very important report to bring back to you guys the day after labor day. tucker carlson is up next. always remember one thing. i am waters and this is my world. >>> they wait until friday to do it but the biden administration is finally releasing a version of the documents they use to justify the police state raid on donald trump's home two weeks ago. unfortunately it's heavily redacted. we will tell you what is in the warrant and what they seem to be hiding. here's a clue, a lot. but first good evening and welcome to tucker carlson. happy friday. every year since 1970 the at

. >> kayleigh: i think the logical question becomes something stephen miller asked yesterday on the networkt's play this. he asked if frederick leads to action. >> you are setting the stage with this rhetoric to use the awesome power of the state to persecute political dissenters, to persecute traditional americans, faithful ameri americans, conservative americans, bible believing americans. just like his old garland weaponize the department of justice to go after parents and subject to critical race theory. you are going to see them using the powers of the security state to surveilled americans and to censor americans, to silence americans, in full collusion with big tech. >> kayleigh: cheryl, we did see doj put out that memo about parents and critical race theory out of the school's appearance before stephen miller makes a great point, but everyone should be worried about you mentioned at the semifascist. anyone who is a maga republican or whatever you want to call it. there is fascism because that is dangerous for both sides. we are in a polarized state, again, president biden was to be

morning futures, exclusive interviews with senator ted cruz, lee zelman, white house senior advisor stephen millertz, my special guest sunday at 10 am. fox business starts from 6:00 tonight a caucasian for "mornings with maria" on fox business, start your week with us and your day every morning on fox business, that will do it for us, thank you for lllllt time. gerry: hello. this week on the "wall street journal at large," nancy pelosi defies china and pays a visit to taiwan. is this bold leadership and defensive freedom or reigns leadings kick that could rebound on the u.s.? job growth in july and democrats are set on hitting the economy on massive new tax in spending bill and arizona to michigan, republican voters endorsed-backed candidates and signal

the careerists, more moderate types, and then you had the hawks, and then you also had stephen millerthe hardline immigration senior advisor known for espousing white nationalist ideologies. give us a sense of how all those competing groups within the administration were talking about this policy. >> it is really no surprise that people well known for their hawkish views on immigration were pushing for really harsh enforcement policies, including separation of families, but one of the most interesting things i took away from the story was the degree to which people who held apolitical roles, who had served under presidents both republican and democrat, also went along with zero-tolerance, sometimes without fully realizing it at the time. some of them told me he remembered being in meetings about separating families or about prosecuting parents in a way they knew would require parents to be separated from their children, but they would say it was not strategic at the time to speak up or push back against miller given how much influence he had over the president. others told me they tho

stephen miller and others who have these harsh views needed the buy-in from those moderates or needed the moderates to stay quiet for this policy to be put into place. yamiche: what you are saying it took more than just even miller and donald trump to carry this out. there's also this idea that taking away children was the intent of the policy. it was not sort of a consequence. what did your reporting show? caitlin: there is evidence before, during, and after zero that family separations where the goal for those pushing most harshly for it. the first piece of evidence comes from the head of ice under from whose idea it was and he told me that was his goal. it comes out of documents i obtained, records that showed especially when early separations were happening, they were referred to as such in government documents. it was only later the conversation changed. the administration started to argue they were hoping to prosecute parents and not separate them. the last piece of evidence comes after separation has taken place when documents showfficials work to keep those families apart even

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stephen miller, you always put it well into perspective. thank you. matt whitaker was the acting attorney general under donald trump and joins us now. matt, glad to have you with us. let's go into the -- what would it need, matt? walk me through the process of accomplishing a search warrant for the fbi to execute a raid on a former president. who would have to approve and what type of burden would they have to shoulder on an evidentiary basis to send agents into mar-a-lago? >> it's a burden, but not insurmountable. one of the first things they have to do its have an alleged crime. second, they need to swear a fact pattern that supports the probable clause to issue that subpoena. ultimately it will go before a magistrate judge after it's sweared out by an officer of the law. let's take two steps back. to open a criminal investigation at all you have to have predication. you jump through the hurdles at the department of justice and end up executing a search warrant. but, you know, these types of issues, like executing a search warrant, arresting someone

senior advisor stephen miller and the price of principal author alan dershowitz, my special guest sunday at 10 am. fox business starts from 6:00 tonight a caucasian for "mornings with maria" on fox business, start your week with us and your day every morning on fox business, that will do it for us, thank you for lllllt time. gerry: hello. this week on the "wall street journal at large," nancy pelosi defies china and pays a visit to taiwan. is this bold leadership and defensive freedom or reigns leadings kick that could rebound on the u.s.? job growth in july and democrats are set on hitting the economy on massive new tax in spending bill and arizona to michigan, republican voters endorsed-backed candidates and signal of ascendant populous gop or could it spell trouble for the party in november? plus candidates vote to -- canada votes to keep women's rights to abortions. did the fbi protect hunter biden from investigation over his foreign influence pedaling. that's under fire this week. we'll discuss all this and more with our guests miranda devine and more. the public health mandates and

. >> trying to cozy up to the trump administration but he never came to pick up my colleague stephen millerme and time again. he always succeeded at the metric but never at the follow-through. this is just yet another example of the big spectacle he made with bret baier saying he wasn't going to support build back better, all to essentially support some version of it many months later. last week, we entered a recession. it was devastating news. two quarters of consecutive negative economic growth, and want to democrats you? raise taxes and spend more. >> carley: were going to be talking to mike huckabee about democrat spending spree later in the shop you couldn't miss it. >> todd: always love the glove. revealed multiple time between the biden administration department and liberal think tanks, political campaign that the teachers union's. no shock there. comes as were learning about the devastating impact of a cupboard locked on the bad and our kids the aqua journey not react, single parent who fled new york city over the vaccine mandate. great to see you, ms expect or want to put up the nu

joining me now, stephen miller, former senior advisor to president trump and mollie hemingway, senior editor of "the federalist." if they thought their policies were so popular, would they be running to the abortion issue so enthusiastically? >> first off, i don't think abortion as good of an issue for them as they think. their view is incredibly ext extreme. every single democrat across the country believes that abortion should be allowed through all nine months of pregnancy for any reason. if you want to kill an unborn child because she's a girl, they think it should be fine. republican position is simply that states should be able to make those decisions themselves. i'm not sure if people think about the issues whether the argument will work, but obviously the real issues are the ones that people really care about in their day-to-day that says the economy, inflation, the border, which is completely open in the south. a crime which is rampant in so many cities and what's happening in our schools. democrats don't have anything to say about it. b1 can you believe the d.c. story? the k

stephen miller, new york city's mayor continues to slam the governor of texas as migrant busses armloadsanctuary cities. good morning. >> good morning. jawdropping numbers of illegal immigrants crossing into our southern border, and it's set a new record actually with well over 1.8 million in less than a year. they keep coming by the thousands every day. even as the biden administration continues to deny there's a problem secretary of homeland security claiming just last month, our border is under control. >> the border is secure. the border, we are working to make the border more secure. that has been a historic challenge. >> experts say the border is anything but secure, and it's creating a humanitarian and national security crisis took a former ice director tom homan think biden's open borders agenda has now but become synonymous with death in america last. the floodgates are wide open. american security and sovereignty are being disastrously mishandle. a recent warmack shows 38% wanted to see the flow of migrant control tokyo that is up 10% since 2020. meanwhile, texas governor greg

we have stephen miller, jean hamilton, high-ranking trump officials with very clear views on immigration that form a new legal entity that literally goes on the table for this council in texas. that is not what happened in washington state or hawaii. the next is the remedy that courts are willing to do them, that is radically different, because president trump, whether you like it or not, is ruthlessly effective at nominating judges and justices to all levels of the judiciary. and we have seen the traditional remedy when you win one of these lawsuits is, they see the agency memo and that's it, go back and start again. we have seen these incredibly expensive injunctions forcing negotiations with the government of mexico, standing in back of a program that has been closed for months and months, totally altering the agency's priorities. we seem very aggressive judge orders, not even requested by the parties data collection on the inner workings of the department of homeland security. ellen: very interesting. i'm interested too in the operational impact, you mentioned -- [indiscernible] sayi

advisor and former congressman and also the ceo of true social for donald trump and former advisor stephen millerith lying about russia for all these years, they get away with filing false pfizer warrens, why would we expect them to ever change? they got away with all of it. none of what they told the american people was true. none of this surprises me. >> really, sean, the republicans are blessed by the votes in november, they're going to have to do it top to bottom wholesale investigation all the way down. this whole chinese and their latest deal with hunter biden, it's not the first time. we know about -- they were accusing trump up stuff doing with russia. they impeached trump for ukraine and it was biden who was on the board of paris smell. you've got re-connections to china this mar-a-lago red, i'll tell you what they didn't find. 33,000 emails like the hillary clinton, the potential felonies on the hunter biden laptop and they did not find a crack pot. we've got a long way to go here and i think the fbi and the doj have a lot to answer for. >> sean: they've had hunters laptop for two years

tolerance policy under president trump got so much atense and people assumed that it's an idea that stephen millere house with the president but i knew that a lot more people needed to be involved to carry it through. i wanted to figure out how did the administration put the policy in place? >> how was it that it was able to maintain the policy for a long period of time? it seems like something so uniquely different of targeting people, the destruction of families as an incentive not to cross the border. seems as though it was allowed to continue because of many people being involved. >> i traced the origins of family separation and the zero tolerance policy going back to 9/11 when the dhs created with the goal to secure the border under the broader intent to prevent another terrorist attack in the quite but in doing so you have the largest law enforcement agency in the country prevent illegal crossings and the approach is one called prevention by deterrence introducing consequences. prosecuting the people that cross the border illegally and starting around 2014 you saw more families and children

you kind of cozy silvered to the trump administration but he never came through my colleague stephen miller has pointed out time and time again he always succeeded at the rhetoric, but never the follow-through. this is just another example a spectacle he made right there saying that he wasn't going to support bill back better also essentially support some version of it many months later. was appalling to me as last week we entered a recession it was devastating news two quarters of consecutive negative economic rope would democrats do? they raise taxes and spend more because almost as if they are trying to tank the economy. it's not some essay lightly but at a certain point basic economics tells you that you need to stop what you're doing you don't double down it causes me to ask do they want this to happen to the to feel that way. >> hannity: when you look at foreign policy the joe biden administration is the economic policy. governor huckabee what can you conclude here what is seeing that successful you got to be happy with her being knocked out. i give credit to our military and intellig

if trump had sent stephen miller into the archives to walk out with paperwork down his pants, they wouldh be in jail right now. i don't think criminal justice reform would save him. and listen to how sketchy this clinton caper was. the president made a bunch of recordings, okay, while he was president in the oval office and they were on tape. and then when he left the office, people found out about these presidential tapes and they wanted them back. but clinton wouldn't give them back. he stashed the tapes in his sock drawer at home. and when judicial watch sued to get the tapes, the same doj that raided trump's home argued of that it's up to the president to decide which recordings are personal and which are official. and the judge dismissed the lawsuit and clinton at the kept thetape. is anybody paying attention here? the clintons are part of the establishment, they get special treatment. trump is not. he gets treated like a criminal. they have been trying to take him down since the beginning. illegal spying on the campaign. throlgting his presidency with special counsel investigations

and these assurances didn't just come from the white house people like stephen miller, who people expectede them, but also people like the head of customs and border protection. and people who had served for democratic and republican administrations and should've known and conveyed to him her and should've conveyed to her that the system didn't exist. >> this is extraordinary and heartbreaking reporting. thank you for all the work you have done. >> that's all i have this time all in this wednesday night. msnbc prime starts right now with ali velsher. hi ali. trump world has now reportedly started speculating about who in the former president's orbit might have talked to the fbi and what it could mean for the we'll have more on that later but let's go back in time a little. to 2005. more than a decade before donald trump's first run for president, before he started flirting with racist birtherism conspiracies, back when he was just a real estate guy with a funny hair-do and a reality tv show, that year, the intrepid journalist tim o'brien the guy on the left, decided to start digging into t

the country or not and there was a big push in the white house led by jared kushner but also stephen miller and the council of economic advisers that try to push a package with merit-based immigration, that got squashed because of covid coming out and everything else but the main issue was it wasn't merit-based and needed to change it. if you just look at canada, it is very merit-based in terms of immigration policy, but us is unique in having such high priority put on family members coming in as opposed to how much he will produce or contribute to the economy. this comes back to milton friedman essentially who famously argued we couldn't have the open border policy we had in 1910 when a lot of immigrants came in because of the welfare state. once you have a welfare state the immigration policy is completely different because now people can come in just for government transfers as opposed to before a welfare state, when people immigrate is mutual benefit to the workers coming in and the company hiring them benefits. there is only mutual gain before the person coming and also people hiring h

gather day without a plan how they are going to rescind remain in mexico, is one of trump's and stephen miller'stics. we are excited they announced they are going to rescind of it that only came after the supreme court said they can. what we would like for the federal government to do in this moment is ensure there is proper care given to folks who are entering into the u.s., allowing folks into the u.s., awell as making sure they he the support they need when they arrive. at the state level, we have been coordinating the governor's office and the port authority. we would love to see the state step up and provide services funding as well as services funding. at the city level, bureaucracy is slow and we need to make sure we are able to move quickly. we are excited to hear they announced their going to open up the welcome center last week, but we really need to work quicker to ensure that that center gets opened and that we are providing the services and the community-based organizations who are doing this work and organizations who are doing this work without any support are getting support they

court filings show he has -- it and they show is also worked with stephen miller, of course. extremely well-known former senior trump white house official, who is sued the january six committee. and he has presented congressman scott perry. a republican member of congress from pennsylvania, who played a role in trump's postelection efforts to try to reverse the election outcome. so, the knowledge we have john morality is on trump's legal team, and in specifically dealing with federal prosecutors on as we have, highlights the extent to which is more and more clear a trump himself and people in his immediate circle, or taking his legal problem seriously, are dealing with the potential jeopardy faces as a real issue, and are bringing on people who have the kind of experience that would be very much relevant to the investigations that trump is facing. and peter prior to this breaking news you no response to talk about some of your reporting in the new yorker about the former presidents autocratic tendencies and his knee-jerk reaction towards being the victim. how does what we are

white house is there have been personalities thate have emerged since the white house tenure and stephen miller and trump david axelrod karl rove. there's always been a figure that amplifies the president's personality and i'm wondering why you think that hasn't happened with the biden white house and has that harmed the white house in some sense and who do you think is the david axelrod of joe biden picks that this is honestly uncanny. we were having a conversation in the car three hours ago about whatpe happened to the celebrity strategists and who came out of the 2020 election? who came out of 2020? the architect. .. not as visible the dramas and the ups and downs of the campaign. we're just not as visible. i think part of it it speaks to the like really close-knit and to be euphemistic about it a very long tenured inner circle around joe biden, right? these are mostly people >> and mr. joe biden because most of the people been sooner but i was anything about this, there really was someone who could have claimed a lot of thad it was mike donlon to isth basically a recluse i think there are a

not i think that there was a big push in the white house led by jared kushner but o obviously stephen miller but also economic advisors that try to push package with merit-based immigration and the godqu completely squash because of covid-19 coming in and everything else. but i think the main issue with illegal immigration i thought was wasn't merit-based we needeu to change it and you were kind of unique in that way and if you just looked at her northern neighbor, canada, is very merit-based in terms of immigration policies and the u.s. is kind of unique and having such a high priority for the family members coming as opposed to how much it will produce for basically contribute to the economy and this comes back to freeman who famously argued that we could not have open border policy that we have, in 1910 laissez when a lot of immigrants came in, because of the welfare state and once is a welfare state, immigration policy is completely different because now people can come even just for thehe government transfers as opposed to for a welfare state when people immigrate it's a neutral benefit

and these assurances didn't just come from the white house people like stephen miller, who people expectedrotection. and people who had served for democratic and republican administrations and should've known and conveyed to him her and should've conveyed to her that the system didn't exist. >> this is axe extraordinary and heartbreaking reporting. thank you for all the work. >> that's all i have this time all in this wednesday night. msnbc prime starts right now with ali. i. ali >> lisa good to see you, again you have yourself a fact sense of giving, we'll see you tomorrow. and thank you for. joining this hour, we got a big show for you tonight as we continue to learn new information about the fbi's search of donald trump, florida home. trump world has now reportedly started speculating about who in the former presidents orbit, might not talk to the fbi, and what it could mean for the investigation. we will have more on that later. but let's go back in time a little. to do thousand and five. more than a decade before donald trump's first run for president, before he started fighting with

listen, you have stephen miller, peter navarro, still standing by trump.standing -- next mulvaney as well i want to read via tweet he put out there. they classified documents for mar-a-lago turnout to be from crossfire hurricane, the 2016 russia hoax in parentheses and they exonerate trump, what happens next? that is after nikki movie saying all, it's just documents? by the way, what else would it be? it's just documents, highly classified ones at that. possibly leaving vulnerable assets overseas. that being said, what do you make of this? >> look, i think there is one thing we are witnessing here. ali washington has played this game with america since 2015. when trump came out in 2015 they said, people who weren't captured. he insulted john mccain. we heard the access hollywood tape. elite washington has a very convenient game where they back away slowly and they say to reporters especially, i don't believe it. i can't get behind this. then when they realize that trump still controls 35% of the republican base with an absolute iron grip, they will then dr

has agenda and the agenda of stephen miller and others around him in the white house is no immigration. this country will die without immigration, that is just clear. >> host: i agree with your statement that no president has made immigration such a toxic part of their approach. sadly, however, this at some level same old same old, read the way chinese immigrants were talked about in the late 1800s. absolutely brutalized and dehumanized on the west coast and that is the experience of every wave of immigrants, the irish catholics, mediterranean immigrants were very different, german and northern european immigrants. very strong recurrent theme. as you point out, all of us came from somewhere unless we are indigenous to the continent so let's try to get behind the policy and politics of this. at some level it is sort of absurd that this country, the president's value is all about immigration and being a beacon to the world and all this stuff, for 240 years, has been absolutely brutal to the latest wave of immigrants. what is going on? how do we change that? if we don't change that there

it was me, steffi and, kelly and conway, stephen miller. hope takes and the other miller. phen, it's the other miller. jason millerotwho was the only one that didn't get . but the rest of us were all owed to be told that. i will tell you this we all would have worn masks if we were. we didn't wear masks because we said we're getting tested every day and that's why i wasn't wearing a mask is every person eating at that event all had been tested before they came in . but what i said afterwards and whatever the president did, he's got to live with his own conscience. and i'm not going to be able to impose guilt onto him. he's either going to feel it or not about what he did if hein fact was positive . but what i will tell you is that for me, i said this after i got out of the hospital. it was amistake for me not to wear the mask . i became convinced that i was in a safe zone because all of us have been tested and i was wrong. now i probably know why i was wrong. i didn't know that but regardless i should have worn masks whole time, it just would dhave been an extra layer of sa

kellyanne conway stephen miller. hope hicks. and and the other miller that's i said stephen. the other miller. just jason miller. who's the only one who didn't get it? so presumably he's owed nothing but the rest of us were all owed to be told that. because i will tell you this we all would have worn masks if we were. we didn't wear masks because we said world contested every day. and that's why i wasn't wearing a mask at that event because every person who was sitting at that amy coney barrett event. all had been tested before they were allowed to come in. and all it tested negative so but what i said afterwards and whatever the president did. he's got to live with his own conscience. and and i can't i i'm not gonna be able to impose guilt onto him. he's he's gonna feel it or not about what he did if he's in fact was positive to all of us. but but what i will tell you is that for me i said this after i got out of the hospital. it was a mistake for me not to wear the mask. i became convinced. that i was in a safe zone because all of us have been tested and i was wrong. now i

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can see from the presidents daily diary here, the president spoke to his chief speech writer stephen miller for over 25 minutes that morning. following his call with mr. miller, president trump inserted, for the first time, a line in his speech that said, quote, and we will see whether mike pence enters history as a truly great encourages slater. all he has to do is refer the illegally submitted electoral votes back to the states where they're even false and fraudulent information where they want to recertify. no prior version of the speech had referenced vice president pence or his role during the joint session on january 6th. these last-minute edits by president trump to his feet were part of the presidents pressure campaign against his own vice president. but not everyone wanted these lines regarding the vice president included in the presidents speech, including the white house lawyer, eric herschmann. >> did you ever speak to anybody in the white house at the time about this disagreement between the president and the vice president? other than the president, based on the objection from

it wasn't just stephen miller, it was people like tom homan, who i mentioned, who was the head of i.c.eh kirstjen nielsen, who was the dhs secretary, who is the highest ranking law enforcement official who is responsible for this and signed off on it, there is no getting around it. but what i learned, which is important, is she wasn't given good information. she was told that processes were in place that would allow for the swift reunification of children and parents within a few days after prosecutions of parents took place. which, as you pointed out, was this argument that came up. when the public finally came to understand that thousands of families had been separated after many months of being completely misled about it, the administration changed course and started to say, well, prosecution was the goal, not separation. that wasn't the case. kirstjen nielsen was given bad information. part of that is what led to her signing this off. >> wow. staff writer at the "atlantic," caitlin dickerson, thank you very much for your reporting this morning. >>> still ahead, the latest from capit

is dark brandon a viral sensation or misfire in the party panel is back, stephen .h miller, does this mean work? >> some of its funny. i mean, it's an center subculture kind of way and the illustrator of what they're using this meme off of was a chinese propaganda for the cccp and the white house com shop promoting literal propaganda and the problem with this meme is you can't act offended by the name brandon, which our media and the political app did for months and months and called it the -- nbc news called it a right wing slur and tried to get a southwest pilot fired over mishearing it. you can't act offended by it and then go, this isn't offensive anymore. the other problem is you can't portray joe biden as this all powerful superman edge lord villain when he has trouble getting off a helicopter and putting on his own jacket or shaking hands with ordinary people. the reality of joe biden doesn't come across. trump, these memes with trump worked because he's an insane lunatic and the base love he's an insane lunatic and they prop him up. but it doesn't work as joe biden when you re

here's a list, records of mark meadows, stephen miller and patrick philbin, white house diary, and logsand you know me, neal, i'm always about moving forward and not looking back. whether they're late or not, does the fact that they're doing this and subpoenaing people like eric herschmann to testify and others who we know testified for the grand jury. they were late and now they're finally on the case. >> it's a huge, ongoing step, john, that suggests an active, federal criminal investigation into trump and high-level white house officials before we knew there was an investigation on january 6th in the attack on the capitol and fake electors and that scheme and what this material suggests is the broader investigation that's aimed at the top of the white house and there are three possible reasons why it took that number 480 days. one is garner was being incredibly strategic that trump and all of his allies like navarro would go write books, talk about it and wave any court of privilege. i think that's unlikely to be the reason, but it's out there. a second possibility is that congress m

stephen miller, who likely wrote president trump's speech on january 6 inciting the mob to go to the capitol and attack their nation's capitol. and a leader who was on the phone with trump to the call where trump pressured the georgia secretary of state to find the right number of votes to flip the election. the coordination is pretty obvious. so this is not happening in a vacuum. in fact, it is not even happening, it is being done, and the sooner we can draw attention to those who are doing it and why it is being done, the better. this is a giant pea and shell game with a dozen shells that can be pushed out to engage with the media or engage politically, but all commonly controlled, all with funders who are kept secret and all with murky relationships with one another and with the efforts to lead an insurrection against the popular vote in the last election, and where it comes to bear in this year and is particularly with respect to cleta mitchell and her election integrity network, because if what we are seeing is a deliberate strategy of fraudulent lying designed to whip up ernest

stephen miller the former senior adviser to donald trump. >> don't forget this is the party that lockedblue states and blue cities. muriel bowser is depriving black students the right to attend school because they have not received a vaccination. this is an administration that has launched a political raid of its chief political opponents' home to seize and steal his property and his documents. so, what you are seeing is a classic technique of tyrants and authoritarians. where they use the methods of dictatorship while accusing their opponents of being fascists? this administration is violating our laws, including violating our immigration laws with impunity and helping murderous criminal cartels violate our sovereignty every single day. >> brian: ironically -- go ahead. >> ainsley: we heard the president speak in maryland to the dnc and that's when he said these fascist comments. semi-fascist comments. is he also going to be speaking in first of all on thursday during "primetime" he is going to have an address there is he ramping up his travel schedule because we are weeks away, two mo