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plus, incoming deputy chief of staff for policy, stephen miller is here. the house is headed back to a slim majority. former speaker of the house kevin mccarthy on the incoming 119th congress. plus, who's next on joe biden's pardon list? >> i think the other part of the tell will be does it expand to other members like jim biden and joe biden himself. maria: new york post columnist miranda devine on president biden's blanket pardon for his son and who is next in the biden family pardons. it's all a right here, right now on "sunday morning futures." ♪ if. ♪ maria: and we begin this sunday morning with the fast-moving power shift in washington as global events put a spotlight on new, incoming leadership in america. the government of syria collapsing weekend with rebels storming the capitol in damascus saturday night sending president bashar al assad fleeing the country and his family dictatorship that ruled syria for more than 50 years ending this weekend. all of this while president trump is in paris meeting with french president emmanuel hama caron for the

turns out it was stephen miller. i'm gonna ask everyone in the audience a question, and i want you to answer with as much loudness and conviction as you can, so all the special interests and lobbyists in d.c. can hear you. do you think the united states of america needs to secure its border? [crowd cheering] [miller] when millions of americans lost their jobs to illegal immigration, did washington rise to their defense? -[crowd] no! -[miller] that's because the special interests in d.c. who have controlled our political process for 40 years, they don't care about you. they don't care about your family. and they don't care about your security. it is a hard truth, but it is a truth that must be spoken for all to hear. [soboroff] stephen miller was for ending what's known euphemistically as catch-and-release, which means allowing people, once they come into the country, and go through the immigration process at the border to be released into the interior until their immigration hearing. [soboroff] what i didn't know, bu

so if that is elon musk, it might be elon musk, if it's stephen miller.and as you point out, stephen miller will have a very powerful job in the next administration. it's probably going to be him. frankly, i don't think trump pays all that much attention to the nitty gritty of policies that are taking effect under his watch, which is probably why he doesn't even realize that last time around, he did a lot more to reduce legal immigration than illegal immigration, because stephen miller was running the show. so i you know, i think that whatever trump says, he wants to do, the actual people who are executing the policy at the end of the day will be making the decisions. yeah. >> and i should note, you know, jared kushner is not going to be working in the west wing based on what we know now. he was when they crafted an immigration policy the first time around, it didn't go anywhere legislatively. but but there were those different components in it and shermichael. so, you know, what does this look like in the end, in terms of we heard so much from trump on t

he said that he supports the program, whether it's more or not, but stephen miller, we know where he stands which is exactly the exact opposite of where elon musk stands. >> he's fine with trump going out and giving sort of vague statements about being in favor of h-1b visas. the devil is in the details of whether those get handed out, what the criteria will be. we're seeing this playing out when it comes to personality in the incoming administration. there is a divide between stephen miller placing these cabinet and sub-cabinet types throughout the administration. musk has really been confined mostly to doge and personnel-related issues. so if you want to, you know, get a look at where this heads, stefan miller is going into this with a lot more troops behind him. >> i've had one person say to me that if you want to know where trump is going to go on policy, look at stephen miller because 90% of the time what he wants, he actually gets, and i think right now when you talk about elon musk, he could be potentially reaching a peak of his influence. he's been down at mar-a-lago all the

yesterday stephen miller who is the incoming deputy chief of staff on policy for president trump, heme they will need $100 billion for the border and that means of deportation, securing the border et cetera we know incoming senate majority leader john thune is planning a two-step plan that would see a non- tax cut bill as the priority to be passed before april 30. that includes 60 - $85 billion toward a border wall, ice deportation, stephen miller told me we need 185 billion. the point is it's going to be border into newport permitting plan first. then i asked stephen miller what about extending the tax cuts, why is that the last thing to do in 2025. he pushed back on that, here's what he said. >> i think the plan is to put both on a fast track. first you can get john thune and lindsey graham can get a full funding package for the border the most significant order security in american history which made the biggest domestic policy in at least 50 years into the president's desk in january or early february that would mean a massive increase in i.c.e. officers working in the deportatio

a great job stephen miller thank you and congratulations we look forward to the work you do coming upe big question is how did his sketchy business deals in china impact his father's policy as vice president and president. we know that biden commuted sentences of two chinese spies during a november prisoner swap. you probably heard about that but there wasn't much discussion about we know he tried to conceal the 2023's bible in from the american people we can't forget that even as it used the u.s. internet provider to transmit sensitive data back to china and we know biden pardoned his son for any and all potential crimes over a very specific 11 year period which include his business deals in china here with more is our fox news legal analyst grady jarrett with breanna lyman. you flit in the written the book on the nature of corruption on the government and attacks on president trump and what they are willing to do it seeking out and we can we can put the pieces together of a star we knew mattered when we think about the back-and-forth it appears like there was back-and-forth between

stephen miller worked for jeff sessions when he was a senator. now they're two of the most powerful people in washington. yeah, going from in the case of stephen miller, a congressional staffer, to now the architect of one of the pieces of the trump agenda that we talk about the most, that being his immigration agenda, and we might see more of that to part of stephen miller's role over the past couple of years has been also trying to identify some of the conservative attorneys that could be responsible for implementing this agenda, too. so we have to track those names that come across just to go back to the great story on sergio, too. i was taken aback that my colleagues have reported on this as well at how he is leading this team that is vetting the people that are going to be a part of this administration, too. we talk about loyalty often being a requirement for the trump administration. maybe the most important thing that he looks and people that he's bringing into these positions, well, that means that the person that's vetting for loyalty is

economy is stephen miller. he's the architect of this deport everybody kind of thing. when i tell republican operatives, you know, somebody's going to have to pick their crops, they say they will pay more americans to do it. 40% of the fieldwork in american agriculture is probably irregular immigrants. not necessarily illegal, some of the very asylum, the cases have to come up and that. -- that may never happen. in macro terms, the concentration in construction and the hospitality industry, macro terms, through our regular program of innovation and population increase for people becoming a teen, the u.s. economy hit 80,000 new workers a month once they got to full deployment. by the summer of 2023 we were surely at full employment, unemployment was well less than 4%. everything was right out there. at that point you can only add 80,000 jobs a month. yet from september to september, 23 to 24, we added 195,000 jobs a month. unless martians were landing in the arizona desert -- if we think it's the population? workers to pick lettuce and work in hotels, working on our con

since stephen miller's plans will come fast and furious.s who have decades between them working on this very issue just put out a piece in the atlantic charting out a path saying that democrats needed to move back to the center on the immigration. both amount to overreaches that will eventually backfire. voters want a middle way, but if they are forced to choose between those who promise control and those who seem indifferent to chaos, they will choose the former. back in 2009 munos served as director of domestic policy council and cochairs the board for welcome.u.s. to assist refugees to get settled in the united states and she joins us now. cecelia, i think i interviewed you in 2005 or six writing act mccain kennedy and immigration reform. i've interviewed frank for years. i followed this issue. it really caught my attention to see your name and his name, you guys are -- you are two people that worked in this space for decades, make the argument you are making. why did you write this piece? >> we wrote this piece because i am very concern

. >> border energy taxes no delays on taxes according to stephen miller. >> the plan is to put both onack, first you can get, john thune lindsey graham promised they can get a full funding package for the border the most significant border security investment in american history the biggest domestic oil in at least 50 years to, the president asking january or early february. you are talking about what will be large investment immigration on border security republicans talking about for decades now talking january early february, immediately, to the comprehensive tax reform package going to figure out about different policy baselines going to use for tax cuts, about corporate traction he reform trade reform manufacturing reform tax policies, nobody is talking or considering delaying tax, dax reform will happen! it will happen and the greatest tax bill we've seen. maria: jea look. i can understand, not having urgency there, because the tax cuts don't expire until end of the year i am worried about two reconciliation packages, can they do one reconciliation deport border because they don'

stephen miller, should grown men be taking bubble baths? >> grown men should not be taking bubble baths, and they certainly should not be doing their work from home in a bubble bath. it's just so. it's so emblematic of the contempt that so many people in the swamp have for the people who pay their salaries when donald trump is inaugurated on january 20th, and that new golden age of america begins, he's going to tell the federal workers of this country who are paid for by your viewers, to get back into the office and do their jobs or find another line of work. we are not paying billions and billions of dollars for people to sit at home all day as federal workers streaming their favorite shows on netflix, lounging around in bubble baths and doing god knows what else. but definitely not working for the american people. >> they're having. miller. they're having them at va hospitals on the clock. these are taxpayer funded. >> they are doing other than working. and i'm sure that i'm sure there's a long list of things they are doing that will be v

if we get stephen miller's version of the 1924 act, democrats are going to have to oppose that? >> democrats will absolutely have to oppose that, but i would prefer they try to not beat it with nothing. i'd much rather that democrats propose a system for how our system can work. the policy is available. this is not an intractable problem. we need to not just be against things, we need to demonstrate that we know how we can make this work and i believe that the american public is prepared to be generous with respect to immigration policy if they believe the government is capable of doing the fundamentals including making sure there is fairness at the border. >> the asylum system will get redone. everyone has agreed the correct system doesn't work. it doesn't work for the people who are making an enormously horrible and dangerous journey and being exploited. it doesn't work politically. you know, i think it -- look, i think hundreds of thousands of people have come in here and by and large i'm happy that they're not where they were, frankly, but i'm not the median voter and i've l

one person i like to compare him with often is stephen miller. has been kind of trump's immigration top aide for his first administration, we know he will be in the second administration. the thing about stephen miller is he is frequent -- he's an idea log. and what i found fascinating about kash patel is that he is not as traditionally understood. really what motivated him and has motivated him from the time that he became a national security council staffer in 2019 is just wanting to please trump. just wanting to kind of better his standing before donald trump. which is to say that if one day donald trump wants to do something that, you know, really taxes far right, he will be there. if for some reason the next day he wants to do the inverse, kash patel will be the biggest cheerleader for that. and when i talk to people, people in trump's orbit who are alarmed about the possibility that he could have a senior post in this administration, it was not, oh, i'm nervous about the fact that he will do x, y, z. it is we have no idea what he might want

stephen miller has been named president elect donald trump's deputy chief of staff for policy.cipients of these letters include california attorney general rob bonta and los angeles mayor karen bass. the world's richest man is defending the tech industry's reliance on foreign born engineers, as the incoming trump administration prepares to crack down on immigration. elon musk contends that there is an urgent need for the skilled worker program that has long been a lifeblood for silicon valley businesses. but many trump supporters say the h-1b visa program siphons jobs away from american citizens, and some political experts say this could lead to a rift in the close bond between the president elect and musk. musk, as we know, invested hundreds of millions of dollars in trump's reelection campaign. the vote to decide who will be the next speaker of the house is less than a week away, and it's not a sure bet that the current speaker, mike johnson, will keep his job next month. as fox's madeline rivera explains, some house republicans won't commit to supporting him yet. >> republic

economy is stephen miller. he's the architect of this deport everybody kind of thing. when i tell republican operatives, you know, somebody's going to have to pick their crops, they say they will pay more americans to do it. 40% of the fieldwork in american agriculture is probably irregular immigrants. not necessarily illegal, some of the very asylum, the cases have to come up and that. -- that may never happen. in macro terms, the concentration in construction and the hospitality industry, macro terms, through our regular program of innovation and population increase for people becoming a teen, the u.s. economy hit 80,000 new workers a moon

stephen miller, who led the effort to uncover these images. stephen, the fact that you had to sue the national archives belonged to the american people. they keep material that are relevant to this nation and the direction of the country, and what our supposed leaders are doing to this nation. you had to sue to get these released. now they're out. tell me about what that process was like. >> yes. this is really outrageous. >> it's astonishing. as you said, the national archives are the archives of the nation. these records belong to the american people. >> my organization, america first legal. and of course, i'm leaving to go and be the deputy chief of staff for policy for president trump in the white house. had to sue the federal government, had to sue the national archives to get these records that prove that joe biden lied to the american people and the national archives colluding with lawyers for biden and obama, refused to hand over these records until after the election, because they knew how damning they were, how damning they were to th

i think stephen miller's wife needs to come on prime time and do a little one-on-one.azy liberal women were swearing off men for four years. first they are cutting their hair and going on strike another throwing themselves at luigi. lou from west new york, why new jersey? i can think of at least 49 better states to fly drones over. i they are here to abduct me. i'm waters and this is my worl

from canyon lake texas, stephen miller looked guilty when you asked him about bubble baths. not buying it. jeff from logansport indiana i think it's the va staff that needs cold showers. that will make the staff go down. carlos from california forget about draining, it's time to drain the tub. daniel from apple valley, california,, no biden presidential library? what is going to do with all of his colouring books? that's all for us tonight. always remember, this is my role. ♪ ♪ >> welcome to the special edition of hannity

stephen miller, incoming white house deputy chief of staff says it is unacceptable, he spoke last night >> how often in life do you get photographic documentary evidence that proves that the president lied, that proves a government conspiracy, proves a media conspiracy. we have the actual photographs proving that joe biden met with hunter's business partners, met with high-ranking officials in china with hunter biden for no legitimate government purpose whatsoever. and there was a massive effort to keep these photos from the american people before the election. how much evidence has stacked up of the ways the permanent bureaucracy in washington has tried to keep donald trump from returning to the oval office and yet he won, he won her landslide and he will return because the american people are sick of a government that has forgotten them and i will go further, a government that has betrayed them. rachel: he lied, president biden lied in the debate where he said i don't know anything about what my son is doing. then we got the laptop and they told us that was russian disinformation. jus

these images will not flee. >> stephen miller does not take bubble baths.d showers only. >> okay. thank you. >> katie, what are your thoughts about this? >> that photo he posted was cutting it real close with an almost being worse than it already was in the bathtub. and that's a leg. >> that's a leg right there. >> pretty close call there with where the photo is. do you really can't find another time of the day to take a bubble bath? you have to do it in the middle of the work day at taxpayers expense. like fire. this guy immediately. it's ridiculous. >> harold, when's the last bubble bath you took? >> i was ten, i think. i agree with jesse. we don't agree often, but on this one, grown men should not be taking bubble baths. one more thing is up next. you only need a roof when it's raining. >> you only need a fire. was cold. you only need a drink when the whiskey is the only thing. >> sore throat got your tongue? >> mucinex institute. sore throat, medicated drops uniquely formulated for rapid relief that lasts and lasts. that's my baby. >> try our new sugar

cr it is nearly home to 60,000 criminal aliens.pu joining me now stephen miller,tf who will be trump'schief of staff of policy. stephen, wooresid is great to se cyou. will president trump insist that this new caravan he stopped? >> president trump expect mexico to fulfill its obligation that they have made to prevent the entry of all caravans into thefi united states are faced this to financial repercussionins trump has outlined up with 25% tariffs. what ihas president trump insistence that expectation theo united states of america will bx protected from continued invasion along the southern border in and live up to obligations to stop humanbu trafficking, human smuggling and the threats crossing the border, on top of that, laura, uponxecu taking office, president trump a will issue a series of executive orders and actions that will suspend the entry of illegal aliens into this country and will begin the process of dismantlin ourg the criminal organizationcitis that have bee preying upon our nation and set it since. of course, carrying out the largest domestic deportation ins history.

stephen miller is pretty close to the president.s the biggest border deal ever. i assume that means the rest of the wall, a huge deportation of a million plus people got deportation orders already on them, expansion of border patrol. i think they're going to do the border at first but i wish they've do taxes first and i don't know why they can't do both first. trey: i'm sure many of our viewers are wearing that exact same thing let's move to the world stage and got eastern europe, the middle east of the fall of syria, china, what is hugh hewitt going to be watching early on in 2025? >> i will be saying if a prime minister netanyahu and president trump resume the momentum they had at the end of the first trump term, get the abraham accords set up again. bring the saudi arabian and fellow began to push out the papier-mÂchÉ regime of ironic. i believe israel has demonstrated the destruction of hezbollah and hamas almost completely the houthi and significant part in iran is a tiger. netanyahu and trump get things going together. and the

separate bill on taxes will happen the end of the year, ib spoke with many lawmakers bying lagity stephen millerin in last week and a half. >> you definitely need it for tax extensions but there are legislative elements what is going on right now we need to stop whether one or two my preference to do one time quickly as we possibly can. >> whether we do it one track or two tracks remember democrats had two reconciliations bills the president is going to get his agenda enacted through congress it will be historic. >> you are going to need two reconciliations packages aren't you? have. >> it looks like that is the direction that we're going right now, i mean still in negotiations but if i were a betting woman would bet we're going to see two reconciliations packages. maria: joining me mo congressman jason smith chairman house ways and means mr. chairman get to see you. thank you so much for being here i know that you have made comments against waiting for end of next year to implement tax extensions tell us how you see it. >> thanks. great to be with you a huge concern, to every american the numbe

hearing coming up at a second, how much do you think you will need for the border i spoke with stephen millerng deputy chief of staff here he in sunday. watches. >> the plan to put both on a fast track, first you can get john thune and lindsey graham a promise that they can get a full funding package for the border in american history which would be the biggest domestic policy and at least 50 years to the president's desk in january or early february and the largest investment and immigration on border security this is what republicans have been talking about for decades, now were talking january early february immediately to the comprehensive tax reform package that's where your figure out different policy baselines that you will use for the tax cuts about corporate tax reform, manufacturing reform and all the tax policies and nobody is talking or considering doing a tax, tax reform will happen, it will happen and be the greatest tax bill that we've ever seen. maria: is that the plan you need two different reconciliation packages. >> were having a conversation now i was on another call was s

is, which is to say, a pretty coherent ideology, think about stephen miller, you think about his specific views on immigration policies, kash patel is not the same. this is not somebody who is animated by a particular worldview when it comes to national security or american intelligence. this is somebody who has really tethered himself to donald trump, the man, which is to say that whenever he wakes up tomorrow and once kash to do something, he will do. i've one former officials say to me, in the course of reporting my story on him a couple of months ago, that donald trump knows that kash patel is the kind of man that you would say, i'm not telling you to break into the dnc but when it be great if something like that happened? >> expand on that. >> listening to elena, and chris talk, i think you can figure out why those offers from boeing and oracle were not forthcoming because as much as he would have been and was a partner to the fbi during the period of time when chris knew him, he went from being that partner to a person under investigation by the fbi. in 2022, he was forced

joining me now stephen miller who will be president trump's deputy chief of staff of policy stephen,eat to see you. will president trump insist that this new caravan be stopped? >> president trump expects mexico to fulfill its obligation that they have made to prevent the entry of any and all caravans into the united states or face stiff financial repercussions the president trump has iewld including the 25% tariff. it is president trump's insistence and exception that et the united states of america will be protected from the continued invasion along our southern border, mexico will live up to its international obligations to stop human trafficking, human smuggling and the threats crossing our border. but, on top of that, laura, upon taking office, president trump will issue a series of executive orders and actions that will suspend the entry of illegal aliens into this country. and will begin the process of dismantling the criminal organizations that have been preying upon our nation and its citizens and, of course, carrying out of the largest domestic deportation operation in hist

i feel confident that stephen miller and his reform ideas h1b visas will be what will happen the seconderm. rachel: if you limit the visas and only bring in the elon musks and the really exceptional people, what you're going to see is there's a tighter market and the wages will have to be -- you'll vi have to pay wages that young math students like my son-in-law who is married and has to support a family would want to be part of and that may mean, guys, guess what, fox news alert, it may mean that big tech bosses make a little less money and they have to pay their workers a little better. i think all of us would be okay with that. by the way, this debate we talk about how healthy this debate is for everybody, for this country, especially on the right to be having, this is a comment to that really thoughtful post from nicole shanahan, a tech person weighed in and said imagine if we took the money from the department of education and created stem block grants to give kids educational opportunities in under-served communities. this is what we should be thinking about, not importing people

i've spoken with several lawmakers about this including tennessee senator bill haggerty, stephen miller watch. >> you definitely need it for the tax extensions but there are legislative elements, what's going on at the border right now that we need to stop, whether it's one or two. my preference would be to do it one time as quickly as we can. >> whether we do it one track or two tracks, the president is going to get his agenda enacted through congress and it will be historic. maria: you're going to need two reconciliation packages, aren't you? >> it looks like that's the direction that we're going right now. i mean, we're still in negotiations but if i was a betting woman, i would bet that we're going to see two reconciliation packages. maria: joining me now is kentucky congressman, andy barr. great to see you. thank you for being here. do you agree with that, two reconciliation packages to get the agenda through? >> well, look, i agree that we're going to get all of these priorities done but my preference would be, one, because i don't think we should delay the tax cuts, and frankly w

i think stephen miller's wife needs to come on prime time and do a little one-on-one. terry from rockdale, texas,, i thought crazy liberal women were swearing off men for four years. first they are cutting their hair and going on strike another throwing themselves at luigi. lou from west new york, why new jersey? i can think of at least 49 better states to fly drones over. i they are here to abduct me. i'm waters and this is my world. >> sean: tonight big news from the washington swamp. disgraced fbi director chris ray is officially stepping down in january before president-elect donald trump takes office and fires him. he utterly failed to restore the fbi to its former greatness and bring back integrity with the bureau's washington field office serves as the enforcement arm of the democratic radical extreme party. we will check in with jim jordan tonight and he will weigh in on what will come next. also dr. drew pinsky will drop by. he will help us analyse the left and there is sick, bizarre obsession with the 26-year-old that's accused of murdering united health care

steven miller is going -- stephen miller is going to be his policy adviser again, and stephen millers a huge border security hawk. so i think it's going the happen again. i really have faith in president trump. he did it before, he's going to do it again. now he has a republican majority in the house and the senate. i really think things are going to get done, and you see how the canadian president, prime minister, talked to him, how mexico president talked to him, and now he wants to threaten to put a 10% tariff on china because of all the fentanyl that's coming into america. i mean, he just knows how to get things done. i trust president trump. i think he's going to get it done. it's going to be a great new year. it's going to be a great four years for america. jason:woman, i appreciate -- congresswoman, i appreciate it. thanks for joining us. have a wonderful, happy new year and thanks for the for all the good work you do in arizona. it's impressive. with we really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you. happy new year to you. >> through the department of government effic

joining us now is the incoming white house deputy chief of policy, stephen miller. do i suspect you have a lot to say on this tonight, stephen? >> sean, here's what it comes down to. first and foremost, donald trump just won a historic landslide. he is entitled to come into office in january and work on his agenda. the american people elected him to. he should not have to come into office and immediately be saddled with a government funding expiration along with a debt ceiling expiration. that is what the current plan would do. he would come into office and immediately have to work on negotiating a debt ceiling hike with chuck schumer and an extension of government funding. that is not consistent with putting donald trump in the best possible position to enact the transformative legislative agenda that he campaigned on. historic tax cuts and reforms an energy revolution, record-setting border security and border protection investments and the entire agenda to bust inflation and make this economy grow. furthermore, as you mention, there are provisions that are in this

will: and, in fact, that's what stephen miller tweeted back in 2023 talking about the first trump term he said biden axes reforms which eliminatedded the use for cheap labor, raised wages, outlawed substitution and replaced h-1b lotteries with high-paying offers which precluded substitutions. regs were scrapped and now big tech is replacing americans. so trump weighs in yesterday suggesting he supports h-1b visas. now, in the past he has looked for reforms to h-1b visas. on the surface, this issue, i don't think, has as deepen a divide on the right as one might initially perceive meaning i think a lot of people on the right including obviously, donald trump and elon musk, support bringing in whatever percentage, .0 1%, whatever the number is, of highly skilled people. the idea of bringing your best. but the program can't be used to box american workers out. that's been the perspective in the past of donald trump, and by suspect it will be the position of donald trump in the future. rachel: me too. will: but the debate got deeper and more contentious on the cultural level. for example,

here's stephen miller. watch.ut stephen, is there any way that or risk that you believe is out there that if you wait until later in the year to extend those tax cuts in a separate reconciliation package, already doing one reconciliation package earlier in the year, if you wait for a second reconciliation in the end of the year, do you believe that there is risk that that doesn't happen? >> no, there's zero risk of that. for a few reasons. again, these are ongoing conversations and discussions, maria. so nothing's even remotely final yet. but there's zero chance of that because as you know, the tax cuts expire this year. there's not a chance in the entire world -- they expire in the fall -- that republicans are not going to fully extend and expand the trump tax cuts. there's zero chance of that. we'll have more members than we do now. you'll have tax cuts and other fiscal reforms, energy reforms, maybe additional border reforms. maria: he's talking about energy and the border and taxes getting implemented fairly s

stephen miller, who will be trump's deputy chief of staff for policy, and tom holman, who will be trump's orders are. when it comes to the two of them, we do not have to guess what they plan to do. tom holman says it all out loud. >> so you are carrying out a targeted enforcement operation. grandma is in the house, she is undocumented. did she get arrested, too? >> it depends. let the judge decide. we are going to remove people that the judge has already deported. >> is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families? >> of course there is. families can be deported together. >> why should a child who is an american citizen half to pack up and move to a country that they don't know? >> because their parent has entered the country illegally, had a child, knowing he was in the country illegally, so he created that crisis. >> there you have it. whole families, including grandma, deported. children potentially as collateral damage, as he said there. that but what can many of us do with that information? for that we look to our and colleague, nbc's jacob so rough, on the f

it could have been five or six times greater if the stephen miller got his way.paration by another name, who as you said could hold the line inside and it fire people outside to do the same. this is a film that would not have happened without a woman who also inspires me, diane dwyer, a legendary producer in hollywood who made this film possible. she introduced me to errol morrison. she is responsible for some of the greatest films you've ever seen in terms of documentaries like al gore's "inconvenient truth." al gore said as she passed away, as we were making this film, it is not an exaggeration to say that diane dwyer may change the world. she reminds me of the people in this film, the jonathan weitz and jaelyn sue logs, and heroes inside the government and people on the outside who stood up because it was a morally reprehensible and stop the policy from happening. i want to use this opportunity, i know there are a lot of people who know diane and note the importance of her to this film and she is an inspiration, just like the people you will meet in the movie

. >> we had stephen miller on this program and during the general election, architect of some relateddeputy white house chief of staff. he made the argument even if you think it was bad, you needed short-term pain, as they put it, to dissuade others from coming in. you were going to save those people the hardship of coming all the way here and being shipped back. people have heard that argument. what do you say to that argument as someone who followed the story? >> i watched that interview maybe closer than i have watched any interview in the history of my time at msnbc and i'm so glad you spoke to him for that. my response to it is, deterrence has never worked. deterrence has been the stated government policy when it comes to immigration for the better part of a generation. bill clinton had a policy called prevention through deterrence, literally said in the policy of the border patrol, they knew people were going to die trying to come to the united states as they built the first wave of walls. george w. bush implemented the first, the increase in the size of the border patrol when h

and if you're going to go into an unfriendly state, like maryland, stephen miller said, well, there would just be virginia during the arrest in here's what steven miller said in terms of personnel, you go to the red state governors and you say, give us your national guard, we will deputize them as immigration enforcement officers. and if you're going to go into an unfriendly state, like maryland, stephen miller said, well, there would just be virginia during the arrest in maryland, right, very close, very nearby, almost a nonchalant attitude toward the notion of sending national guard from one state to the other to end up sending people out of this country. in addition to weakening our military, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to deport every undocumented immigrant in our country. it would damage our economy and separate american families. instead, we should focus on deporting those who are truly a danger to america and we should give the rest a chance to earn legal status. they would have to register with the government, certainly pay their taxes and submit to serious backg

stephen miller, who is the rare trump adviser who has been with donald trump from the very beginningll the way back to his 2016 campaign when he was on the road with donald trump. he is going to be the key adviser in the white house, overseeing the administration' s approach to immigration. miller is an opponent not only of illegal immigration, but of much legal immigration to the united states. and he is going to be the key person in this new administration. so i think that this infighting, it's just a tiny hint of the levels of fighting and, you know, dysfunction and chaos that we're going to see in trump 2.0. why do i say that? well, past is prolog. and we saw an awful lot of that in trump 1.02. >> yeah. from a macro sense and also from a micro sense. because karl, if you're looking at policy and the first thing that republicans want to do out of the gate is an immigration reconciliation package, or at least that's what stephen miller has said he wants to do. that's what senators seem to be on board with. so working on the house, how do you handle this policy issue, which is, kris

women are obsessed with luigi because stephen miller is taken. i think stephen miller's wife needs to come on prime time and maybe do a little one on one. terry from rockdale, texas. i thought crazy liberal women were swearing off men for four years. yeah, first they're cutting their hair and going on sex strike. another throwing themselves at louise lou from west new york. new jersey. why new jersey? i can think of at least 49 better states to fly drones over. i think they're here to abduct me. i'm watters, and this is my world.

i hope it includes in it a wall on the border like stephen miller's been talking about an expanded ice and expanded border patrol. >> i would like very much to see a rebuild of the american military get under way. and i want those tax cuts extended and made permanent. >> now, the budget control act of 1974, which you probably know you probably have memorized. congressman, it's so complicated that it makes it very difficult to get what i just said done. but if they're going to get it done and donald trump promised to get it done, they've got to do it in january or february, i think. >> do we start with the border or do we start with taxes, which are about to expire? and i'm sure most of our viewers who are wondering, why can't you do both? i mean, why do you have to do one this year and one the next? so if you have to pick, would you start with the border or would you start with taxes? >> if it was up to me, i would start with taxes for a very simple reason. congressman, we i'm a republican. you're a republican. we lose the congress in 2026 if the economy is not cooking. and while i rea

[ laughter ] restock the fridge in stephen miller's office with mice?r thing, we're going to -- we're going to lower the hoop on the white house basketball court so elon can finally dunk. [ laughter ] poor guy gotta jump on his tippy toes. not fair, richest man in the world, should be able to dunk." [ incoherent mumbling ] [ laughter ] windmill dunk. [ light laughter ] in front of that crazy truck. [ incoherent mumbling ] [ light laughter ] while biden's looking for ways to accommodate trump, trump's looking for ways to tear down everything biden did. for example, trump's been actively putting together his pandora's cabinet of goblins and weirdos. [ light laughter ] trump's going to sic them on the government like a bunch of ferrets on ketamine. >>>> trump d make it official late last night that elon musk and vivek ramaswamy will co-lead what he's calling the department of government efficiency. trump said that their goal will be to -- and this is a direct quote here -- "dismantle government bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditur

reaction, fox news contributor kellyanne conway, the incoming deputy chief of staff for policy, stephen miller, along with fox news contributor jason chaffetz. >> kellyanne, start with you. let's get your reaction to these last minute maneuverings of joe biden and the administration, seemingly designed to put roadblocks in the way for the incoming president. >> it's problematic, but everybody sees it. that's why donald trump's approval rating right now, as the president in waiting is higher than the number of people who actually voted for him, the percentage he got in the popular vote, which is pretty high, sean, because people already see him communicating with us instantly, free of charge on social media, telling us what he thinks of tariffs for canada and mexico, telling us what he thinks of us, steel, telling us he's going to paris for the reopening of notre dame, going to the patriot awards with you and our colleagues tomorrow in new york. he is telling us what the president is thinking and wanting to do on their behalf. joe biden, already one of the least popular presidents in recent mem