stephen moore wrote that and he joins me now. all right, stephen.ill paying people not to work? i thought that ended at the end of the pandemic? >> you better believe it, and this really goes back to the let's turn the clock back to the mid 1990s when president bill clinton, a democrat and newt gingrich, a republican, got together and they passed that historic welfare reform bill, which the center piece of that, stuart, was to require people to work to get the benefits or to be in a training program or to at least be looking for a job, to be qualified for the benefits , and it worked like a charm, stuart. we saw dramatic reductions in the number of people on welfare. we saw a lot of people moving out of welfare into work, which is something that we would love to see , and the other thing is it saved a lot of money, stuart. it saved billions and billions of dollars. now, here we are in 2023 and the answer to your question is no. they have not restored the work requirements from pre-covid and you're getting record numbers of people collecting these be

stephen moore, thank you for the seriousness of this problem, appreciate it. alexandria -- alexandria ocasio-cortez. she's reintroducing her green new deal why not? >> we dismissed it as aspirational along with a price tag of $93 trillion. she got a lot of it through in the inflation reduction act but that's not enough for her. >> it is important to acknowledge the scale and scope of what we are proposing is massive but the scale and scope of the climate crisis is even bigger. if we are not proactive about very aggressively and transformation the addressing our infrastructure and workforce in preparation for the climate crisis then the cost of not addressing it are going to be far greater. >> that's a scare tactic. what is the appetite for these new restrictions that could come as an expense because of the transformation? we seen very high so no one is saying we don't want to save the planet which maybe is not on your timeline. stuart: or your priceline either. something different, a brand-new season of american built, it starts tonight. one of them new episod

stephen moore.cities, you know, like new york, san francisco, and elsewhere, they were hoping for a back-to the-office boom. but susan? there's an awful lot of unused commercial space downtown. >> that's right and it's a big concern commercial real estate right now because some say this could be the next shoe to drop. we're talking about millions of square feet of unused commercial space, so think of big cities like new york city almost 16% vacancy rate, d.c. is at 20%, san francisco is probably the worst at a quarter of vacancy rates downtown but that also means there's opportunity for some new cbd centers to be popping up so think of winwood in miami, maybe culver in l.a. or the suburbs like jersey, naperville in chicago but remember when we were talking about deutsche bank and how there are concerns deutsche bank might be the next bank to fall? a lot of banks that hold a lot of commercial real estate debt are the main concerns right now so no one is going back to the office as you just saw with t

by the way, when he's not on tv, stephen moore writing podesta for fox news. killing these great american citizen cities and yours as well. stephen, thank you very much. the first thing we talked about was people working from home. today stephen is working from home. thank you, sir. >> shhh, don't tell my boss that. >> steve: exactly. all right. stephen moore, thank you, sir. >> take care. >> steve: all right. it is 17 minutes before the the top of the hour. ashley joins us with news from this -- this is a crazy story that you are starting with. >> ashley: it really is a business represents music industry top stars person of interest after police found a woman dead into n. a bathtub inside a miami beach bathroom. this is will works with justin bieber, drake and more. reportedly told police she was s not in the room when she died. they found unknown substance at the scene. former president donald trump is back in the city today for another deposition. it's related to a fraud case being pursued by state attorney general letitia james and her office. this is unrel

there's a new york post op-ed from stephen moore last week, it highlighted investments are going to been's tax plan is basically going to kill investments. it's going to kill enthusiasm for people to make investments because he wants to tax unrealized gains. so if you buy a stock and that stock goes up during a year you're talking about, you get taxed on it even though you didn't make money on it. i spoke with the committee for a responsible federal budget president maya mcginnis about the president's tax plan. here's what she said. >> they're not talking about spending cuts. no one is talking about reforming social security and medicare which we've talked about forever. let's be direct about this. you have to reform these many programs. there is a level of taxation where it is so clearly counter productive and chokes off growth and chokes off investment. it's not realistic. it's not doable. there will be no political support for it. maria: so grover, what do you sunshine will he be able to get this through, 86% on some people because of their unrealized gains? >> the good news is that

stephen moore joins me now to talk about this. okay, $80 billion overhaul of the irs.ore? >> well, ashley, there's going to be a big clash between president biden and this new republican house of representatives on this $80 billion for the irs. kevin mccarthy has already said hell no, we're not going to hire 87,000 new irs agents, especially in the wake, ashley, of the fact that under obama, remember, the irs was weaponized and politicized to go after conservatives and republicans, and we know that is very likely to happen under joe biden as well, so i think you're going to see some major fights ahead on the budget where republicans say hell no, we're not going to give you tens of billions of dollars more money. not only will conservatives be targeted but the other concern, ashley, as you know, as you all, at fox business have been reporting, they're not going to just go after the millionaires and billionaires, ashley. they go after the middle class, because of course that's where the money is. if you want to get more money out of people, you have to go to the tens of

kimberly harper spoke earlier with the retired fbi special agent stephen moore, and he asked how someoneith such a junior rank got access to critically sensitive intelligence. you can't even bring a cellphone into the type of facility in which he was working. so obviously he was breaking that rule pretty pretty frequently because he was taking pictures. so i think what we have here is just lacks command structure that allowed somebody who could go off to go off. so that's you know his access. but then there's the fact that it took so long for this breach to be discovered. what does that tell you? well the issue here is that until you see the breach out in public, you don't know it's gone necessarily, and to have access to top secret information you have to sign saying you. you view the document. you have all these different issues. different hoops you need to jump through just to view the document, which is why he was found so quickly, but you don't know if the person is taking that information and using it against you until you see it in the press, or, um, you you have bad consequences

i spoke with retired fbi supervisory special agent stephen moore and i asked him how someone knows such a junior rank, get his hands on sensitive documents. here he is. you're gonna have information coming in and out that he will have access to access to, but he doesn't really need to. that's one part of it. the other part of it, though, is that there is top secret. and then there's top secret. um the owners of the classified information and say, hypothetically, the cia had a source somewhere. they are not going to put this into the standard military distribution system. they're just not because something like this might happen , so i think the potential damage from this from these leaks is not as catastrophic as it could have been. yeah it's still very embarrassing for the u. s and you, you, you know, highlight an obvious vulnerability. i mean, there were. there were changes made after the edward snowden and chelsea manning cases millions of dollars that were spent. to harden the systems. but it seems as though not all the right lessons were learned. no i'm i'm kind of concerned that h

stephen moore today in his column talked about the fact that the covid emergency is over. earth to washington, covid is over. why in the world are we spending, borrowing so much money, the red ink is running $400 billion higher than at this date last year. this is a legitimate question to ask. if covid is over, why is our deficit spending actually higher this year than last year? either the chairman of the ways and means or the chairman of the budget committee if you have a thought on that i'd appreciate hearing it. >> i think my colleague on the ways and means committee, my committee, said it starts with $10 trillion in two years spend, $6 trillion of which was added to the national debt. it also makes sense, we spent a lot of money through this pandemic, some of which was necessary. much of which was not necessary. but we're coming out of it and we're way over what c.b.o. precovid predicted we'd be at. mr. arrington: we're over where the obama budget predicted we'd be the federal government, ladies and gentlemen, is 40% larger today in 2023, than it was precovid in 2019.

. >> today in his column stephen moore talked about the fact the covid emergency is over why in the world are we spending and borrowing so much money, the red ink is running for hundred billion dollars higher than at this stage last year. that's a pretty legitimate question to ask if it's over why is the deficit spending actually higher this year than last year and he was the chair of the ways and means budget committee. i think my colleague and chairman of the ways and means committee said that it starts with $10,000,000,000,000.2 years of spending 6 trillion of which was added to the national debt. it also makes sense we spent a lot of money in this pandemic some of which was necessary, much of which was not necessary but we are coming out of it and we are way over what was predicted we would be at where the obama budget predicted it would be. the federal government is 40% larger today in 2023 van it was before covid in 2019. now if we collectively being intellectually honest with of theamerican people don't believe can find the 9% reduction, $130 million, i am aghast and losing hope be

stephens inc. - governor wes moore, welcome to "firing line." - it's great to be here. - in november, you became the first black governor of the state of maryland. a political newcomer, but a "new york times" article from 1996, when you were just 17 years old, noted that you had your sights set on politics even then. what took you so long? - [laughs] well, you know, i have consistently been trying to figure out how exactly do you make your impact in the world, right? i mean, it's not lost on me that i'm coming off of inauguration where i was decades removed from being a kid who was the the son of an immigrant single mother who was raising three children on her own. and i knew at an early age that i wanted to be a public servant because i was going to fight for people like my mom. and i was going to fight for people like my dad who died in front of me when i was three years old. and so i think the journey into public service was not a new thing at all. and i think that was one of the things that resonated most with voters in the state, because if they wanted somebody who had a long political care