stephen parker, thank you as always for your time.oming up, we will get more insight from the etf exchange conference. larry berman, cio of etf capital management joins us next. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪♪ what will you do? will you make something better? create something new? our dell technologies advisors can provide you with the tools and expertise you need to bring out the innovator in you. jon: this is bloomberg markets. i am jon erlichman, with kriti gupta. we were talking about the bull-bear debate on inflation. today, we have also been covering the etf exchange conference in miami. it is the largest event for the $10 trillion cryptocurrency. larry berman, the cio if etf capital management. you have a show here on bloomberg as well. but this idea of where inflation goes and whether it lingers, is that influencing the conversation they are? larry: i think so. it certainly is from islands. last year was an example of where your traditional 60-40 portfolio did not deliver on its profit -- on its promise. it never had the chance. going