i'm stephen sackur. some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. we destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of the campaign group like drive a car or vote, although they might do better but they do need the right to be respected. possibly can understand them. and we should curb some of our habits that cause "human supremacist worldview. " well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, that doesn't fit into the human species as sort of trash. i mean, as you said earlier, we might pet them, we might skin them. we decide. one animal among many. a different instrument. we all have interest in staying alive. 0h, they do indeed... ..as we know it. they are conscious, they can think of the future, they have their own forms of communication. we don't understand them, but they understand more human understand of theirs. they're very canny. many people watching this, listening to you, devote their entire lives to fighting for animal rights in the way you have. i would have been an awful football player! i was angry at it. count