stephen scherr, goldman sachs. >> thank you so much for that exclusive interview. wilfred frost there. donald trump has embraced goldman sachs as he preparation himself for the white house. steven mnuchin as treasury secretary, and gary cohen as director of the office of budget. all this begging the question, is goldman sachs in the driver's seat and what do we make about his comments of goldman sachs you said a new potentially less regulated environment? >> well, if you want to think about one of the firms that was probably most handcuffed by dodd/frank and a post environment, it was goldman who was fine, et cetera, et cetera. so they probably have the most to gain and historically the most clever in an environment where they have been able to work within a system. if you listen to the schwartzman comments that we're going to -- the least amount of regulation or the biggest change to unwind in his tin you're, it's enormous to think where goldman could get very involved and be very successful. >> is goldman too cheap? you still look at him, even after this run. is

outsiders in the running are co-head of the securities division, martin chavez and stephen scherr. earlier this week i interviewed scherr and asked him about a potential cohn departure. >> gary has been and is an enormously positive force in the firm. i think the opportunity may well be presenting itself. i don't know the details. i read it as you do in the paper. >>> if you are just joining us, yes it is happening again today. a rally on wall street pushing major averages into record territory and we are just looking at the 30 stocks that make up the industrial average. 26 are positive today. >> and to the point you have been making the leadership keeps changing. today pfizer is leading the way. this is a company that they are up there. they had been hit before on comments. and now they are finally on the rebound today. >> caterpillar which had been a leader early on is the big laggard today. >>> coca-cola is among best reformers. replacing ceo who has held that position for 8 1/2 years. kent will step aside in may and retain his post as chairman. james quincy will take the reigns