from stephen shaw about a test he did, where he literally told you, i was trying to create this artifact in a hair taken from a living person. i tried to find every method i could think of, every decomposition situation i could think of, to try to recreate this particular artifact, and he couldn't do it. no matter how hard he tried, he could not replicate it. now, defense counsel debated with him some photographs where there was some darkening and debated whether that was banding, wasn't banding. the fact is when you look at the things from the trunk of the car, the inside of the car, the same circumstance as this particular hair, they didn't have any markings at all, no decomposition of any kind. regardless of whether you debate whether having a hair buried in the dirt for a month can create something that looks like, so what? this hair wasn't in dirt for a month. it was in the back of a car. the point is that that hair was from a dead body. how do we know that was caylee's body? two ways. the first is mid condrey y'all dna. that mitochondrial comparison proves that hair either came fro