we've given at the national archives and our records of achievement, we have honored people like stephen spielbergks who have done hollywood versions of history that help people really learn history, who might not sit down and read a book. it gets people into that tend to pay attention and you hope that they will dig more deeply. so this is a hollywood version, octaviano spencer and her courage and tenacity and shows how to build a business, but it's not a history lesson. >> fair enough. and i think, great quote from that evening, was that he shot the birth, he was never going to give up that rhyme, even though it's completely historically inaccurate. so sometimes you don't let a good story again in the way. >> so the first question which i think has come several times, does she really steal the formula? >> oh god, so it's complicated. the formula had been around for centuries. it's in medical textbooks, pharmacists, it was really very simple at a time when many people didn't have indoor plumbing. people didn't watch their hair very often, they had really bad dandruff and i will go into details, b