stephen tok and makes point demographics will be a central force in great power rivalry going forward. he would see the fact that the united states is an attractive destination for immigrants has a huge advantage in that rivalry in that it gives us the hope of staying young and having the young of pop -- a young population even as china starts to get old before it gets rich. you can play that out across technology. automation is causing a lot of economic distress and driving a lot of reaction to the migrants. in each one of these cases, you can take a fact like that, something that feels like a fundamental reality now and it to be part of a different narrative. a different theory can explain it. depending on which one of those series is most persuasive it can take you to a different future. it explains why we are where we are but also explains where we are going. anyone of these worlds is consistent with what is happening now. host: dan kurtz phelan is with us. executive editor at foreign affairs. princely served as a member of the secretary of state's policy planning staff from 2010

stephen tok and makes point demographics will be a central force in great power rivalry going forward would see the fact that the united states is an attractive destination for immigrants has a huge advantage in that rivalry in that it gives us the hope of staying young and having the young of pop -- a young population even as china starts to get old before it gets rich. you can play that out across technology. automation is causing a lot of economic distress and driving a lot of reaction to the migrants. in each one of these cases, you can take a fact like that, something that feels like a fundamental reality now and it to be part of a different narrative. a different theory can explain it. depending on which one of those series is most persuasive it can take you to a different future. it explains why we are where we are but also explains where we are going. anyone of these worlds is consistent with what is happening now. host: dan kurtz phelan is with us. executive editor at foreign affairs. princely served as a member of the secretary of state's policy planning staff from 2010 to 2