and china relations, kenneth lieberthal who is a veteran of the clinton administration and stephen yatesbush administration. shone as joining us from iowa city. welcome to the conversation. good evening. >> caller: thanks guys. i would like to say to my fellow americans that it might be a good idea to give china a little bit of leeway on human rights issues right now, to remember that the united states had a long history before we came to the point we are at right now. my question is an independent, i like democrats and i like republicans and at certain times one might be better than the other. to steve gates, what do you feel it would have been like if john mccain was president right now and do you guys feel they might be talking about taiwan behind closed doors or did you hear anything about that? >> host: thanks john. >> guest:. >> guest: it is an interesting thought. there was a brief moment in the 2008 campaign where it seemed like john mccain might have a chance of being president. it was but brief. my senses he had become president they would certainly be in tense relations with c

and china relations, kenneth lieberthal who is a veteran of the clinton administration and stephen yatesbush administration. shone as joining us from iowa city. welcome to the conversation. good evening. >> caller: thanks guys. i would like to say to my fellow americans that it might be a good idea to give china a little bit of leeway on human rights issues right now, to remember that the united states had a long history before we came to the point we are at right now. my question is an independent, i like democrats and i like republicans and at certain times one might be better than the other. to steve gates, what do you feel it would have been like if john mccain was president right now and do you guys feel they might be talking about taiwan behind closed doors or did you hear anything about that? >> host: thanks john. >> guest:. >> guest: it is an interesting thought. there was a brief moment in the 2008 campaign where it seemed like john mccain might have a chance of being president. it was but brief. my senses he had become president they would certainly be in tense relations with c