retired stephen zenakus.edical doctor and an anti-for tour expert for physicians for human rights. also a member of the group human rights first. thank you for being here. if in boston, leonard reube reubensteen, and berman institute of medical ethics and still with us ross lind jordan. you're a lead author of this report. most important take away. >> the most important take away the legacy of the detainee abuse is still with us in the erosion of medical, ethical standards for health personnel working at guantanamo. the department of defense changed ethical standards. even though there are changes and interrogation practices those rules are still with us and they undermine ethical practice. >> any surprises in this report? >> no, no surprises. what was really valuable about the report was that you had a proud group of people senior doctors and leaders who looked at all the information and was very objective and confirmed what had been coming out for years, and we recognized was a problem for military medicine