here's a clip from an interview with steve adubato on new jersey public tv. >> this moment, should i hope cause us -- should foster is a national discussion about violence in our society. if you don't deal with the fact that this young man was obviously significantly disturbed and for some reason it appears was not getting any type of treatment or care, until we deal with that issue, you're just some type of ban is not going to fix the problem. if someone is willing to give up their own life, to take the lives of others, it is almost impossible to prevent them from doing so. >> why have we failed so miserably in terms of government's role? >> because there's an extraordinary stigma that's attached to admitting you have a problem. that's whether it's alcohol or drug abuse or whether it's other types of mental illness. there's still such a stigma attached to it, to getting treatment. whether that treatment be conversational, therapy or whether it be prescription medications or a combination of both. that i think even where we offer services as governor, we do offer and pay for a lot of