there's mainstream parties don't have that capacity and it's precisely those active messages that steve bannanused to bring come forward that have an additional effect in the european context and only mention that the rigidity of some parties and how it could be working against him in the conservative party might be a case in point to seeing the various fringes it's just very difficult to contain it in one party is that when we think of changes to mainstream politics perhaps the end of the big umbrella party and more smaller coalition got governance well maybe i think we need to just be a bit cautious here because ultimately in countries like this or in france or in germany you have a populist. and but they're not about to take over the government i mean the mainstream parties you know the leader of the european peoples party is going to get as many votes as last time but still looks like being the largest party in the european parliament so it's worth putting in context but yes there is an organizational challenge here in this country partly because the 2 big parties are so intimately divided

his recent interview but what struck me in it was that he almost tries to project himself as the steve bannan of ukrainian politics he takes credit for pushing selenski toward the elections he claims to be this larger than life political strategist almost the muster mind of the lefties candidacy do you think it's a fair comparison between bogged down bad and i think it's more speaks about the personality these guys are really a very ambitious guy. he was criticized heavily by everybody so i think that he is in the. friend that. he is trying to brand that all the time by a mindless mr coleman that's why he wants to say no guys i'm different i have my own opinion you know one of the favorite jokes currently in ukraine speaking about ukrainian humor is that ukraine is all war with game or forms ukraine is now starting young. i know that these young poor periods as one of the favorite serious of mr was in ski and his 1st public performances remind you so much about that in the if you remember all those masterminds all those people who are quite convinced that they would be able to pull strings th

there's mainstream parties don't have that capacity and it's precisely those active messages that steve bannanused to bring come forward that have an additional effect in the european context and only mention that the rigidity of some parties and how it could be working against them in the conservative party might be a case in point to seeing the various fringes it's just very difficult to contain it in one party is that when we think of changes to mainstream politics perhaps the end of the big umbrella party and more smaller coalition got governments well maybe i think we need to just be a bit cautious here because ultimately in countries like this or in fronts or in germany you have a populist. and but they're not about to take over the government i mean the mainstream parties you know the leader of the european peoples party is going to get as many votes as last time but still looks like being the largest party in the european parliament so it's worth putting in context but yes there is an organizational challenge here in this country partly because the 2 big parties are so intimately divid